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Because without tapes, this shit ain't gonna fly. It's just another TV show to compete with Brexit for ratings.
In Watergate, we had tapes, not just bullshit "testimony". And people were caught in the act, by real policemen. So far all we have are a bunch of blabbermouths. I certainly hope there is something real to hang 'em with, but the ineptitude is so overwhelming, and given history of the Party, it's not just rope-a-dope.
And this "whistleblower"? please! Goddamn cops tell us, "If you see something, SAY something!" So what's up, ya bastard? If you have solid proof, out with it, pronto! You hear about real heroes falling on the grenade, now it's your turn.
Eh, like I said in ol' boy's journal, the dems will tread lightly, or collateral damage will be severe in discovery. Actually, probably not. People just don't care how crooked they are anymore. As long as their guy wins... That rule applies equally to both sides of the imaginary line.
*sigh* All this bullshit and the republican/democrat party will still receive 95% of the vote next year, and of course the pissing and moaning will never cease.
And a shout out to the morons (no offense to morons) who want to believe I advocate not voting! Love you all!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday September 26 2019, @04:27PM (14 children)
:-) I had to add to the funny mod. You truly are sometimes. The naivete and denial is quite the spectacle, if for nothing more than its antiquity in the face of human "progress" in the "information age".
Eh whatever. In your world it might not be true any more, but the last I heard is that actual evidence is still required in a real trial. Hope you got some because you all are still just embarrassing yourselves.
I expected better. Aimed too high, I guess.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Interesting) by fustakrakich on Thursday September 26 2019, @05:34PM
I should be a bit more specific. The "information age" began with the telegraph, or maybe even the printing press, not the blinky, flashy internet, which maybe ended the information age and went into the advertising age, a process that started with radio and TV. Your "news" is a commercial. The other ads are there to remind you to take a bath and brush your teeth and look presentable when the police knock your door down.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 26 2019, @11:47PM (10 children)
Except impeachment isn't a trial in the Article III [wikipedia.org] court sense.
What's more, the House of Representatives role in impeachment is one of *investigation and (if warranted) creation of articles of impeachment*. That's the equivalent in US-based (Federal and state) court systems of a prosecutor obtaining an indictment. However, as I mentioned, the impeachment process is *not* an Article III court.
Are you arguing that Congress should not exercise its oversight role? Are you arguing that (for whatever reason), Congress should allow the Executive Branch to do whatever it wants, with no oversight or check?
While impeachment has some similarities with the Article III process, it is not that. It is inherently a *political* as well as legal mechanism. As such, there are risks to both sides when moving forward.
You're once again showing your ignorance of the constitution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States#Procedure [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 27 2019, @02:14AM (9 children)
Are you arguing that Congress should not exercise its oversight role?
No, so far they are sorely lacking. They are only protecting themselves from exposure. This is why I am convinced they are not serious. We need proof. Without it this is a totally bogus clown show.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 27 2019, @03:00AM (8 children)
So...issuing subpoenas and holding hearings is "protecting themselves from exposure"?
I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 27 2019, @04:14AM (7 children)
They are not enforcing them. They have only produced hearsay. And without tapes your "transcript" is pure *he said/she said*, a screenplay for your next Netflix movie.
Vote them out
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 27 2019, @03:36PM (6 children)
Trump gets unlimited subpoena powers if impeached: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1177051152409604096.html [threadreaderapp.com]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 27 2019, @05:32PM
This is my whole point since the beginning. This is why we have this most delicate, very tribal dance. A culture show for the tourists. Discovery blows it all wide open. This can go nowhere. Real evidence will implicate everybody in the business. That's why Epstein had to die. Other threats will share the same fate.
The only workable remedy is to vote them out. All of them. 95% reelection rates only make the whiners look like shit, and makes the tyrants look good.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 27 2019, @08:02PM (4 children)
Post something from an actual expert and maybe you've got something:
For the record, I didn't go looking on Snopes for this. It was just the first search result for "Hyram F. Suddfluffel"
More detail here (the *second* search result):
https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/hyram-f-suddfluffel-impeachment-origin-hoax/ [heavy.com]
The next five search results:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1177222030179143680.html [threadreaderapp.com]
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1177051152409604096.html [threadreaderapp.com]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR52OcNRBLE [youtube.com]
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/go-ahead-impeach-trump-please.1787896/ [glocktalk.com]
https://www.facebook.com/194090487326109/posts/from-an-email-sent-to-mei-have-a-degree-in-political-science-and-i-am-a-card-car/2304291709639299/?_fb_noscript=1 [facebook.com]
Oh, and you're welcome.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hyram-suddfluffel-impeachment/ [snopes.com]
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 27 2019, @08:04PM (3 children)
Argh! Left out the link to the quoted material.
It is from here: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hyram-suddfluffel-impeachment/ [snopes.com]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 27 2019, @08:11PM (2 children)
They have the right to discovery, goes to credibility of the witness. Right now, nobody on either side has any. Just one more reason this is such fucking farce.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday September 27 2019, @10:15PM (1 child)
You keep bashing and/or misunderstanding/misrepresenting the Constitution.
You're either an anti-democratic (small 'd') shill or ill-informed and ignorant. I'm guessing the latter, as your rhetoric is naive, puerile and not based in reason, logic or fact. More's the pity.
How does that old saw go again? 'Tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
Too late for you, methinks.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 27 2019, @10:35PM
Whatever. you watch. It won't go anywhere... It can't without burning down the entire house. You either have no recollection or are too young or just playing the fool thinking this is for real.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday September 27 2019, @02:18AM (1 child)
Cynicism is cruise control for cool. But you still have to steer.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday September 27 2019, @02:27AM
There is nothing cynical in what I say. They are mere observations of normal animal behavior. I mean, yes, for humans it is distressing, but I have no choice but to deal.
The people that claim to be all serious while reelecting the same old shit are full of shit. I guess they don't like hearing that, but, you know, tough!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..