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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday October 03 2019, @11:42AM   Printer-friendly
from the gotta-watch-the-watchers dept.

U.S. to Collect DNA of All Undocumented Migrants:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is developing a plan to take DNA samples from each of the undocumented immigrants and store it in a national database for criminal DNA profiles, they said.

Speaking to journalists on grounds of anonymity, DHS officials said the new policy would give immigration and border control agents a broader picture of the migrant and detainee situation.

And stored on the FBI's CODIS DNA database, it could also be used by others in law enforcement and beyond.

[...] Officials said they were in fact required to take the DNA samples by rules about the handling of arrested and convicted people that were issued by the Justice Department in 2006 and 2010, but which had not been implemented.

They said the program for collecting DNA was still being developed, and they did not have a date set for implementation.

Collecting and storing the DNA of people simply detained and not tried or convicted of a crime has drawn criticism from civil rights advocates.

"Forced DNA collection raises serious privacy and civil liberties concerns and lacks justification, especially when DHS is already using less intrusive identification methods like fingerprinting," Vera Eidelman, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, said in a statement.

"This kind of mass collection also alters the purpose of DNA collection from one of criminal investigation to population surveillance, which is contrary to our basic notions of freedom and autonomy," Eidelman said.

If it becomes okay to do this to "them", how long will it take before they want to do it to "us"?

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday October 03 2019, @01:13PM (5 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday October 03 2019, @01:13PM (#902254) Journal

    My downstairs neighbor is a home healthcare aide who immigrated legally from Mexico forty years ago. She just lost her job to an illegal immigrant from Guatemala who was willing to work for 1/3 the wage.

    My downstairs neighbor opposes illegal immigration and is a newly minted Trump supporter.

    That's a small anecdote to illustrate who gets hit hardest by illegal immigration: legal immigrants who followed the rules and took the entry-level jobs. So people who argue for open borders are screwing the people they mean to help.

    Washington DC delenda est.
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 03 2019, @01:54PM (1 child)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <> on Thursday October 03 2019, @01:54PM (#902263) Homepage Journal

    Nobody, and I really mean nobody, hates illegals like legal immigrants do. Not the staunchest double Nazi Klan supporter. Nobody.

    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 04 2019, @04:00AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 04 2019, @04:00AM (#902538)

      Hurrr durrrr my name is Bubba and my dumbshit wisdom gets upvoted by alt-right racists!

      Don't think I've ever seen a Mexican salivating over doing some human hunting on the border. Every time I think you hit rock bottom you find a way.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bussdriver on Thursday October 03 2019, @05:32PM (1 child)

    by bussdriver (6876) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 03 2019, @05:32PM (#902369)

    The GOP will never regulate businesses to the point they can't easily hire illegals without much penalty. The result is those who sneak past the system will always be around indirectly recruiting more hate filled GOP voters who also easily fall for all the scapegoating as well. Propaganda is part of it and it's not supposed to infect their politicians to the point where they ACTUALLY make moves to change their beneficial situation! It's worked too well so now they have gullible suckers getting elected instead of just donating $.

    Abortion is the same kind of sham. Their experts know if they actually win they'll lose it's effectiveness; being the angry underdog / "victim" is far more motivating than playing defense from the winning position. If they lock in abortion bans in the courts it will boost the other side greatly while weakening their support until the court is repaired. Sometimes you can find the experts stating this stuff, it's where I got the idea from. An inhumane DFL expert would want to lose the abortion fight for the political wins it would fuel.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday October 06 2019, @04:17AM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <> on Sunday October 06 2019, @04:17AM (#903292) Homepage Journal

      It's got nothing to do with party. Getting rid of lower than minimum wage labor would absolutely destroy the US economy and both parties know it. Neither wants them gone and neither wants them paid like citizens.

      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
  • (Score: 2) by dry on Friday October 04 2019, @01:55AM

    by dry (223) on Friday October 04 2019, @01:55AM (#902519) Journal

    Why didn't she simply report her employer? Surely in this era of anti-immigration, anyone hiring an illegal immigrant would be thrown in jail.