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posted by Fnord666 on Thursday October 03 2019, @11:42AM   Printer-friendly
from the gotta-watch-the-watchers dept.

U.S. to Collect DNA of All Undocumented Migrants:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is developing a plan to take DNA samples from each of the undocumented immigrants and store it in a national database for criminal DNA profiles, they said.

Speaking to journalists on grounds of anonymity, DHS officials said the new policy would give immigration and border control agents a broader picture of the migrant and detainee situation.

And stored on the FBI's CODIS DNA database, it could also be used by others in law enforcement and beyond.

[...] Officials said they were in fact required to take the DNA samples by rules about the handling of arrested and convicted people that were issued by the Justice Department in 2006 and 2010, but which had not been implemented.

They said the program for collecting DNA was still being developed, and they did not have a date set for implementation.

Collecting and storing the DNA of people simply detained and not tried or convicted of a crime has drawn criticism from civil rights advocates.

"Forced DNA collection raises serious privacy and civil liberties concerns and lacks justification, especially when DHS is already using less intrusive identification methods like fingerprinting," Vera Eidelman, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, said in a statement.

"This kind of mass collection also alters the purpose of DNA collection from one of criminal investigation to population surveillance, which is contrary to our basic notions of freedom and autonomy," Eidelman said.

If it becomes okay to do this to "them", how long will it take before they want to do it to "us"?

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  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @02:00PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @02:00PM (#902266)

    There's no such thing as illegal immigrant. Principally, freedom of mobility takes precedent over national and constitutional laws via treaties. Legally, nations are under the right to control the entry and exist of migrants, but once someone from a different nationality (or no nationality) is in your country, they're migrants with full rights whose only crime is illegal entry / crossing national borders. And since extradition for unlawful entry is illegal unless caught right on the border, countries that ship away "illegals" are the ones committing crimes.

    It all comes down to a simple definition: A nation is a group of people who can secure their borders, manage their resources and cloth, house and feed its people. The right to control exit and entry to your territory is actually a duty and it ends where the international treaties say the border ends, not when you like it to end in your "constitutions free zones". Deporting migrants, whether you'd like them to be ones or not, is illegal. It's why Trump is building the wall: Because that's the only legal way to take control over immigration under international laws. Otherwise, you're just the biggest gang in the neighborhood.

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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 03 2019, @05:14PM (2 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <> on Thursday October 03 2019, @05:14PM (#902356) Homepage Journal

    Neat, you're not just wrong on your fundamental claim, you're wrong on pretty much every detail. That takes dedication and effort.

    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @09:03PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @09:03PM (#902427)

      [Citation needed]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @10:59PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 03 2019, @10:59PM (#902465)

        [Citations needed]


  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 04 2019, @01:49AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 04 2019, @01:49AM (#902514)

    Heh heh.
    Ask Wesley Snipes if you can get away with ignoring the law because you don't like it.