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Journal by fustakrakich
My discomfort in the last few years, first with Russiagate and now with Ukrainegate and impeachment, stems from the belief that the people pushing hardest for Trump’s early removal are more dangerous than Trump. Many Americans don’t see this because they’re not used to waking up in a country where you’re not sure who the president will be by nightfall. They don’t understand that this predicament is worse than having a bad president.
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When is she going to announce?
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If all the world's economists were laid end to end, we wouldn't reach a
conclusion.
-- William Baumol
(Score: 5, Funny) by aristarchus on Monday October 14 2019, @07:13AM (14 children)
Listen, Fustilarexamilla, your fears are misplaced. They are only the fears of a Conservative Asshole! My, Gawd! What if a Progressive Demoncrat became Precedent? Well, we know what would happen. All the executive orders promulgated by corrupt and conflict-of-interest people in the Past Administration will be RESCINDED (and yes, martyb, it is a word, and it does work here.)
The Republican party has hoist itself by its own petard. A petard is a bomb, by which one may be hoist, if one does not obtain sufficient distance prior to detonation. The bomb, in this case, is Newt Gringrinch, who went of prematurely in several of his "future" wives, and used that to impeach Bill Clinton. But now, the Giuliani, the lecherous gay co-habitor, and his Ruskie comrades, and . . . Oh, just Jesus it gets so tiresome to have to explain how the Republican party has become the enemy of the People, and how I will now personally attack, villify, denude, exfoliate, ridicule, punch in the face, and irrigate each and every Republican I come across. Careful where you wear you MAGA hats, you traitors! Be afraid, be very afraid!~
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @07:23AM (6 children)
What if a Progressive Demoncrat became Precedent?
:-) Yeah yeah, we can expect the monkeys to come flying out any moment now...
You do good color commentary. I like your style. You ever think of working in professional wrestling?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday October 14 2019, @07:47AM (5 children)
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho for President!!! He's a stable, well stable.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @07:32PM (4 children)
Oh yeah, Cheech's cousin. Dig it
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday October 15 2019, @06:10AM (3 children)
Evidently, my dear and fistulated fustakrakrich, you are not familiar with the cultural reference to Idiocracy [wikipedia.org], of which this is a reference to. You see, in the future, according to the movie, people become progressively stupid, and eventually elect Camacho president, because he won the WWE, World Wrassling Entertainment, championship. Of course, he performance in office is almost, but not quite, as bad a Trump's. Has to do more with electrolytes than bribery, extortion, and squids who go pro.
So now go and find the magical moral equivalency rock to hide behind, you Republican Troll! There is nothing you can to to save the party! They are going down with Trump. The only real question is what will the new, mostly, kind of, conservative party in American politics be named?
"Bull Moose" is kind of outdated, Whigs are right out. That leaves, I guess, the new Social Christian Democrats! Just like in Germany, the heirs to the Nazi regime, only on the down low.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 15 2019, @07:31AM (2 children)
Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that. I couldn't finish the movie.
So now go and find the magical moral equivalency
There's no need to search, the self evident is right there in front of you. Staring at you with those big, yellow, eyes... And it's hardly magical. It's perfectly natural. Almost mystical. That's the beauty. It just, happens. Awesome! And the denials? More so! Harrumph!
So now go and find the magical moral superiority... No wait, I mean, go get your fuckin' shine box!
The only real question is what will the new, mostly, kind of, conservative party in American politics be named?
The old name from way back near the beginning of the republic still works, the Democratic-Republican Party.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Touché) by aristarchus on Tuesday October 15 2019, @07:55AM (1 child)
Look, right there in Wikipedia! [wikipedia.org] Perhaps "Free Soil" could ride again, although in the era of the average age of Fox viewers and the state of the presidency, it "Depends".
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 15 2019, @08:16AM
Oh brother! You clog the toilet with that groaner?
Sorry, don't take it personal
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @12:05PM (1 child)
It's the choice between NSDAP and Starship Troopers (Verhoeven's--embarrassed to say I have not read the novel yet). Well, perhaps proletarian revolution some day, but it's not likely to happen today or before WWIII imho (unless...). Yet, if I have to choose between the two, I would rather live in the Starship Troopers world of post-gender, post-race neoliberal fascism than the NSDAP world.
Perhaps our fren cannot see the difference between the two, because it's likely the Nazis won't come for him. Perhaps he's afraid the Starship Troopers fascists might come for him, because he might be white, male, heterosexual, and cisgender, and he does not understand that being middle class regardless of classification is enough to be safe in the Starship Troopers world.
With the Republican Party, personally for me at least, I'm hoping when they come for me to at least drag a few Nazis to hell, and they can take my cold, dead body to a concentration camp.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @07:44PM
Yeah, that's the thing, everybody wants a warm and fuzzy NSDAP world, where they get eaten last.
And "revolution"? Please! Not unless the entire army leaves the emperor without even a button to push. Revolution means extermination. Success/failure is determined by which way the guns are pointed when the shooting stops.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @03:36PM (1 child)
Go for it! The assault charges alone will be comedy gold. I recommend defending yourself in court too, when it comes to that. And get it on YouTube!
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday October 15 2019, @06:13AM
They are coming for you first, khallow. Boardwalk in front of Old Faithful, high noon. Just you and your obvious rebuttal against one just man, with a good aim. We will start a go-bury me for you, khallow. More than we ever did for MDC.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday October 14 2019, @03:48PM
I really need to get me a Make Anal Greek Again hat in your honor.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Monday October 14 2019, @03:57PM (1 child)
What, a "both sides are bad" false equivalency from Fusty?
Who could've possibly seen that one coming!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @05:17PM
Thank you for your participation. Tribal cheerleaders are always welcome. They're fun to watch.
Not that you care, but credibility is important.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @07:18AM (3 children)
All we have to do is take khallow's 401K, and tax all of TMB's hidden income and fishing gear, and they we can dissolve the federal deficit and provide for education and health care for all Americans, right? Or do we have to dick with Paul Ryan? God knows Rand Paul and The Donald have no assets to contribute to the common good.
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Monday October 14 2019, @01:39PM
There's already a federal excise tax on fishing gear. Bet you didn't know that.
(Score: 1) by The Vocal Minority on Monday October 14 2019, @02:42PM
Sounds good. We don't have to worry about sending TMB or khallow broke, they can keep on living it up rent-free in your head /s
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @02:53PM
(Score: 3, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 14 2019, @07:55AM (1 child)
I don't subscribe to any particular conspiracy theory, but I do believe that one or more conspiracy theories are partly correct in this case.
https://i0.wp.com/impiousdigest.com/wp-content/uploads/JFK-jackie-limo1.jpg [wp.com]
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @08:16AM
There is no "conspiracy". It is a natural progression of events. Give any animal an opposable thumb, and they'll do exactly the same thing.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @03:20PM (26 children)
Seriously, Nixon resigning didn't do shit other than stop a criminal from being president. Well, MORE of a criminal anyway.
You'd best explain this idea, what could possibly be worse than Trump's treason destroying US credibility and getting our allies murdered? We have either a foreign agent or a complete moron in office and you think the optics would be bad to remove him?
I can't fucking even
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @03:33PM (24 children)
Well, obviously someone fabricating said evidence of treason merely to get rid of Trump. And right now, accusations of treason are merely trash talk from an AC on the internet. They have no meaning unless we actually find genuine evidence that Trump has committed treason, which let me add has the precondition that he actually committed treason in the first place.
So you grant that your certainty is misplaced, even if your imaginary evidence were real, namely, Trump could be a complete moron, whatever that means in the real world.
Yes.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @04:12PM (2 children)
I wasn't talking to you numbnuts, you have proven many times you don't give a shit about facts and evidence. Interesting how the only defense you have left is trying to make people believe that everything is fabricated nonsense. Says a lot about you and your beliefs.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @04:53PM (1 child)
(Score: 4, Interesting) by aristarchus on Monday October 14 2019, @06:39PM
No, khallow, you don't. You really don't.
(Score: 4, Informative) by https on Monday October 14 2019, @04:13PM (20 children)
Accusations of treason are from multiple White House staff.
Come back when you're ready to play.
Offended and laughing about it.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @04:53PM (19 children)
Who?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @06:09PM (11 children)
CIA agents and diplomats involved in corrupt schemes and their coverups who were visibly shaken when they heard someone might really investigate their past crimes.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @06:53PM (10 children)
So, CYA? "I was just following orders"? Sorry, to be taken seriously, real evidence is required, recordings, pictures, receipts, the usual. They don't even need to expose themselves, just cough up the goods and/or go away.
visibly shaken
Oh brother! Now we have cheap novelists writing the news.
This theater is one thing, quite the attraction. This audience! oy vey!
If the truth is to be conveyed on the stage, there is only one [playbill.com]. Ok, two [mentalfloss.com]... Fine! three [youtube.com]
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @07:26PM (6 children)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-whistleblower-complaint-whistleblower-had-prior-working-relationship-with-current-2020-democratic-candidate/ [cbsnews.com]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @07:56PM (5 children)
The reporter says,
Get whatever "transpired" on tape please. Everybody involved right now is too emotional.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 15 2019, @01:02AM (4 children)
We know what transpired. Ukraine had already reopened the investigations months earlier, then Trump (who didn't know) was like hey why not look into that corrupt Biden stuff, then months later there was some kind of (seemingly unrelated) small aid package Ukraine got from the US. The only people who could be "visibly shaken" when they heard such an exchange are those who were involved in the corruption somehow.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 15 2019, @01:08AM (3 children)
We know what transpired.
So you heard the tapes? Unless you have clearance you didn't mention, you only know what the tabloids are telling you. It is very presumptuous to believe what they say. Whistleblowers bring evidence, not testimony. Send them back in with a wire.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 15 2019, @01:39AM (2 children)
The transcript is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uyWKAGgHIqDEORgjOyo0uq7JOXzhxOQf/preview [google.com]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 15 2019, @01:43AM (1 child)
Those are based on testimony, not recordings. All the good whistleblowers from the past came with real documentation. That's what we need here.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 15 2019, @01:45AM
It sounds like the same thing as a court record where someone types in what is being said as well as they can in shorthand.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @07:38PM (2 children)
Sounds like someone neck deep in corruption:
https://patriotssoapbox.com/opinion/update-alleged-whistleblower-eric-ciaramella-may-be-connected-to-steele-dossier/ [patriotssoapbox.com]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @11:47PM (1 child)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 15 2019, @01:54AM
Yea, but when you read the transcript and hear that they were "visibly shaken"...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @06:15PM (6 children)
Possibly this guy: https://patriotssoapbox.com/opinion/update-whistleblower-identified-as-eric-ciaramella/ [patriotssoapbox.com]
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday October 15 2019, @07:40AM (5 children)
Similarly, from the other post [soylentnews.org] citing this particular blog, we have bald assertions that Ciaramella may have run a meeting which they might not have attended or the meeting might not even exist. And there's the claim of "secret impeachment proceedings" by the Democrats of the House. What's the basis for that claim?
There's way too many lazy claims without evidence. The final question from that blog bears mentioning:
This crosses the line to an attack, particularly disturbing since it's an attack on career bureaucrats who normally would be invisible. Who is painting the target?
Here's my take. We're seeing someone from the Trump leadership using bloggers to take out bureaucrats who aren't Trump supporters. Given how flimsy the evidence has been to this point, I imagine one or more of the bloggers mentioned gets inside dope and then coming up with a secondary excuse for why the laser targeting beam is focused on Ciaramella. This story above about Ciaramella and his purported motives may well be true, but let's remember who has inside knowledge and can most easily direct others to the attack.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 15 2019, @10:37AM (4 children)
Could be, or just conspiracy theorists "connecting the dots", right or wrong. One thng is for sure after reading the transcript though, whoever was visibly shaken must have been involved in the corruption.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday October 15 2019, @02:51PM (3 children)
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 15 2019, @05:18PM (2 children)
You're not seeing any evidence yet. (aside from the ongoing obstruction right now, no law breaking has been proven.) These "transcripts" are written by dime store novelists. I stated in another post, a real whistleblower will go in with a wire, camera, whatever, not write notes while getting the vapors over the content. Real evidence will implicate all the beautiful people. Neither side wants that. It just can't happen. Prosecution would turn into a confession, self incrimination.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 15 2019, @07:19PM (1 child)
What makes you say that?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 15 2019, @07:43PM
All the scene setting , it's irrelevant. "visibly shaken", WTF? Another *dark and stormy night*? We need tapes, not drama. Doesn't help the cause, which I expect to be about rooting out corruption, not just the president. Yeah, right!
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday October 14 2019, @09:31PM
I'll take Trump over the religious fundamentalist any day. Which is what we'll have if Pence doesn't go down with Trump's ship.
Of course, that would mean Pelosi as POTUS, something that would make the GOPers go apeshit apoplectic. That at least would be entertaining. Nope, Trump is in no danger of being thrown out of office.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2, Funny) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @03:23PM (2 children)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @04:36PM (1 child)
You are THE representative of "the establishment" around here.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday October 15 2019, @06:20AM
Khallow is just a suck up. He wears a bow tie, just like Tucking Carlson did before he graduated to being a "top" at Faux News.
So predictable, these wealth worshipping worms of people. Scum of several levels of hell. Sold both their grandmothers and their mothers, and their wet-nurses, and their econ professor, down the river many times over. Many times. Try not to get close, nor to trust, or you will end up like the Marsh Arabs or the Kurds, betrayed and left with khallow.
(Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Monday October 14 2019, @04:49PM (5 children)
All what's happening over there is not about particular persons, nor about individual policies, not even about political/criminal/whatever clans interests. The decay of politics landscape in United States is an objective process. It is exactly what had to be expected from a secessionist colony, created by slavers by a vociferous lie of freedom, which originally meant freedom not to pay taxes to their feudal ruler and freedom to keep their own slaves. With economics growth fed by continuous influx of human workforce from overseas for centuries, most of which was just squeezed and destroyed in the working process. A vampire realm. A 4.27% of total world population, but sucking over 30% of planetary resources. Now, it became unsustainable by new military, economic and cultural reality, and no ideology stacking nor religion could fix that. USA has fallen behind culturally, and now it has to pass the very same historical process the Europe, Russia, China and India had to walk through in 20th century. The American Empire is over, but the Americans did not realized it yet.
Freedom of speech is a conflict between false freedom of lies and true freedom of mind.
The edge of 太玄 cannot be defined, for it is beyond every aspect of design
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @05:07PM (3 children)
Cool story bro. Wrong about slavery both then and now. And wrong about planetary resources. We're orders of magnitude shy of 30% of planetary resources.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @07:29PM (2 children)
:-) Oh, there you go again, stooging for your masters, being wrong as usual. C'mon man, put a little life into it.
That 30% is 30% of all human consumption of planetary resources. As a total of available resources, we haven't even reached 0.01% of that.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 14 2019, @11:40PM
Exactly. I'm not going to start pearl clutching until the Earth starts consuming a lot more than that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 14 2019, @11:41PM
As born and raised american, I agree with Trump we must warm Antarctis and Artcis.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday October 14 2019, @05:28PM
The decay of politics landscape in United States is an objective process.
:-) ibid? [soylentnews.org]
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..