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Hillary Clinton appears to suggest Russians are 'grooming' Tulsi Gabbard for third-party run [CNN, take it with a block of salt. They let it slide. The DNC is actually conspiring against Tulsi. This is a preemptive *shhh!*]
So, who's grooming Hillary for her big announcement? Oh, never mind, she can tie her own shoes. She needs no help to muck things up.
Fun times. No matter who loses, it's Russia's fault.
Man! They got some real clout over here! They love to start a clown fight on "both" sides.
Whadda country!
I hope Tulsi does go indie. Gives her a fighting chance. With Oprah on the ticket, a really good chance.
And if you people are serious, you will sweep out the house for her, put a bunch of indies in there too, and put some toilet bowl cleaner in the senate
Edit:
OOF! Shot across the bow! I sure wish she wouldn't say there's no independent intentions. Just makes things difficult if she decides enough is enough. I hope she doesn't think she can beat Clinton in a DNC primary. That would be delusional.
Edit2:
I would so love to hear Hillary say that Oprah is a Russian asset. When I Google this Russian gag, almost every mass media outlet is carrying it. Very heavy push on this one. One way or another she needs to be on the ballot to break the monolith. We have a whole year to make it a possibility.
Edit3:
Another subpoena bites the dust. The Energy Department just told the dems to bugg off... Think anything will get done next week?
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @08:38PM (70 children)
Gabbard and Yang are Putin puppets. It was obvious to their responses to questions about whether the US should invade foreign countries.
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=34144&page=1&cid=908614#commentwrap [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @08:40PM (57 children)
:-) yeah, yeah, we all know your gag
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @08:55PM (56 children)
Tulsi is being groomed by Ruskies.
Fustacracrich keeps pushing Tulsi.
Ergo: Fustacracrich is a Russian agent.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @09:03PM
Yes, now that they have been unmasked we can ignore everything they say and continue to vote for the candidate appointed by the deep state.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @09:11PM
Hi Ari!
We love you too
(Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 18 2019, @09:26PM (53 children)
It's such an obvious ploy to choose someone who's polling at 1.2%, claim to support them, then when they inevitably lose you get to scream up and down about how the primary was rigged even though they lost by millions of votes.
LOW ENERGY. SAD.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @09:40PM (52 children)
Eh, your usual tribal response, in the same fashion of the prez himself. You have adopted his entire demeanor.
Of course she has a low count in the democrat base. That's why she needs to break away. It will drain the democrat/republican Party. That is a good thing for all of us. We're trying to break the circle. You will benefit also and should be more appreciative.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 18 2019, @09:58PM (51 children)
Neither one of us will benefit from four more years of Trump.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @10:13PM (28 children)
Then break away and vote for Tulsi/Oprah. Because we already experienced the eight years of democrat bullshit that gave us *Trump*. If you nominate Biden, you will get, and deserve four more years of *Trump*.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 18 2019, @10:17PM (27 children)
Or, instead of ignoring basic math, I could vote for somebody like Warren who I actually like.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @10:29PM (22 children)
See, this confuses the heck out of me.
How is she different from Trump? In terms of policy?
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0, Troll) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @11:14PM (12 children)
All the top contenders share the same policy of war and austerity. [even Sanders voted for the use of military force]
What people are voting on is style, which is almost more disturbing when you look at the style that won the last election. It's time we start accounting for taste.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @11:23PM (10 children)
The keyword was 'liked.'
He likes Warren better than Trump. Ok. I do too.
Better personality. Kinder face. I get that.
I just don't vote for that. Seriously, she's just adopted his platform and no one is even calling her out for it.
My current theory is that the world ended, not sure exactly which year yet, but a long time ago.
This is just the nightmare that the brain goes through in the last few seconds of life.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @11:35PM (3 children)
My current theory is that the world ended, not sure exactly which year yet, but a long time ago.
November 22, 1963
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @11:50PM (2 children)
I suppose it's possible.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:05AM (1 child)
So 30 years of Internet were entirely fake memories?
Just another channel on the TeeVee with lots of reruns
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:16AM
it smells funny
I'd buy another
if it wasn't for the money.
Take back
what I paid
for another mother
fucker in a motorcade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0NV_0aLmiA
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @05:45AM (5 children)
How did Warren adopt Trump's platform? Be specific.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @12:14AM (1 child)
How did she not? Be specific and reference actual government documents, not what the fake news told you.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @02:04AM
The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. They claimed that Warren, one of the more progressive Democrats, adopted Trump's "platform." Where is the evidence? Does Trump support the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which Warren had a big hand in creating? Does Trump support universal healthcare? Are their positions the same on dealing with illegal immigration? Just how much of Trump's platform did Warren supposedly adopt?
(Score: 2) by Arik on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:48AM (2 children)
She certainly sounded a lot like him at points in the latest debate.
So, compare that to Trump's [politico.com] stance last campaign. It's nearly word for word.
Note, she didn't answer the question that was asked. Never says how she's going to pay for it. Just makes the same promises that worked for Trump last run, the same vague hand-waving in response to basic questions like 'how are you going to pay for it?"
So the questioner tries again to get her to answer that question.
Again she won't answer the question, and again there's little if any difference between the position she espouses and what Trump ran on in 2016.
OK, enough about health care, what about jobs? What about trade policy?
Aside from that last line, the little nod to unions, this could have come straight from a Trump campaign speech back in 2016. Bad trade policy, big corporations that don't care about America, very typical Trump.
And the last line? You think that's something Trump would never say?
Well it's actually not so far from the tact he tried with NABTU shortly after the election.
Even on war she struck a stance not at all different from how Trump campaigned. Oh, sure, she insisted he messed it all up somehow, but she also said "we need to get out." So she's endorsing his position on outcome, and just vaguely asserting that he's doing it wrong rather than actually criticizing the position itself.
Don't get me wrong, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. If you want to win against Trump, you've got to take back these traditionally democratic positions that got him so much support among traditionally democratic voters.
It's still funny to watch.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday October 22 2019, @09:14PM (1 child)
Seriously? Does it need to be in a sound bite to mean anything?
Would she raise taxes on the middle to pay for MCFA? Sure, as long as the cost for medical insurance goes away at the same time. I'd gladly pay a bit more to the Medicare tax if it meant I didn't need to pay for medical insurance!
I'm sure that if she had said "yes" that No One would use that as a "OMG she wants to raise your taxezzz!!!" propaganda hit piece...
Trump said a LOT of things, sometimes different depending on who he was
lyingspeaking to at the time.Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 22 2019, @09:40PM
Warren fell down, she flinched [youtu.be]. You have to "trick" her to get an "honest" answer. I watched her dodge in the debates also. We don't need this.
There is no need to raise taxes. We don't need to accept that. Just make the financial industry start to pay some. I suspect the reason it can't be taxed is because the money doesn't really exist [the money the feds gave them, and is still giving, is safely offshore], it's all wagers in the derivatives, and the trickle down is a drought. There just needs to be a balance of power that neither side offers.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @04:41AM
Troll
Pfft, you can always tell when the pitiful democrat takes offense. They like to piss on other peoples' crabgrass
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:47AM
Trump used to have a "D" next to his name, now he has an "R".
Pocahontas, first woman of color hired at Harvard Law School, used to have an "R" next to her name, now she has a "D".
That's the difference for DM.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:39AM (7 children)
She has one, for a start.
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:42AM (6 children)
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 4, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:47AM (5 children)
Hmm...I haven't seen Warren's proposal to cut taxes for the rich and destroy the environment.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Saturday October 19 2019, @03:31PM (4 children)
Those policies are already enacted. To be different she has to reverse them.
If she doesn't have policies to raise taxes on the rich, and to not destroy the environment then she effectively has the same policies as Trump.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:20PM
Precisely where Obama fell down. He merely carried out the previous administration's agenda, the wars, the austerity, all of it. Both factions have the same goals. One just "uses" the other to be the bad guy to pass draconian law they pretend to oppose that will remain on the books indefinitely. The principle error here is peoples' failure to see they are a team. There is no real opposition. Until we vote for independents who are not mere servants to their "donors" we are stuck in the mud. Reelecting criminals will not change a thing. Regardless of what chance there is of that happening, it is our only hope. Those that say there is no chance are really saying there is no hope.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @02:12AM
Well, she does, and she also supports a wealth tax.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Tuesday October 22 2019, @09:17PM (1 child)
To be fair, should she win the day, Warren can't do it by herself. She will need to cooperation of Congress. Mind you, there is a chance that the Senate will flip to the Democrats, but you never know.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by deimtee on Wednesday October 23 2019, @05:40AM
It was an extension of "evil triumphs when good men do nothing".
She doesn't have to single-handedly change the world, but if her stated policies do not include reversing the "bad" policies, then she is effectively endorsing them and saying they will continue.
If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @10:38PM (3 children)
Why you wouldn't vote Sanders is beyond me, but people aren't too wrong when they point out you're a DNC fanboi, and Warren is the new chosen one since she'll play ball with the elites.
(Score: 1) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @11:02PM
Don't get me wrong, give me a choice between him and Trump, /or/ HRC, I'll eat my words and vote for him.
But I'd do it with a sense of doom. He's very old, he gets confused, his handlers are horrible people.
Well that's how I interpret it at any rate.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:42AM (1 child)
I would happily vote for Sanders if he wins the primary.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:45AM
With Sanders, bet carefully on his running mate
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 18 2019, @11:14PM (16 children)
MAGA benefits us all.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday October 18 2019, @11:56PM (11 children)
You've just added several dozen farmers dead of suicide, at the very least, to the long line of impatient ghosts who are going to be waiting for you at Hell's gate...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:09AM (10 children)
My ghosts don't wait at hell's gate. That's just so primitive.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:13AM (9 children)
It's a metaphor, jack. We've been over this: Hell is not a place, it's a state. You may or may not meet those you've wronged but they can't do anything to you; you'll do it all to yourself, for as long as it takes to pay back what you did. No more delusions when we drop the body.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:24AM (8 children)
Well, YOU have been "over this".
FYI, my ghosts are mostly in the wind. If I ever get the time to re-write my story about Texas Canyon, I'll introduce Soylent to several of my ghosts. And, no, I wronged none of them. These are all men and women who earned my respect, and respected me, in turn.
You should keep better company if your ghosts are seeking revenge on you.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:35AM
So, they made the fatal mistake of relying on Runaway, and he let them down, so now they are dead? Seems legit.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:39AM (3 children)
On the contrary, I am the one likely to be the vengeful spirit. As it is I already basically look like a Caucasian yuurei (look it up).
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:05AM (2 children)
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday October 19 2019, @04:57PM (1 child)
I mean I'm 5'10", tall and stringy, with long hair down to my knees. All that's missing is the funny triangle headband and the white robe basically. Also no one's got CRT TVs anymore so I'd have to settle for climbing out of someone's LCD monitor or flatscreen, because it is $CURRENT_YEAR.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @05:23PM
This approach [youtube.com] might work with an LCD. Use Blargg's NTSC to achieve creepy CRT distortion.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:26AM (2 children)
You really are a piece of shit. Party politics over your own people. This is what hate and anger do to you, they erode your soul and make you into a tool for others.
It is never too late to change, even if it means spending the rest of your life working for redemption without anyone cheering you on.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:26PM (1 child)
So, uhhhh, WTF you talking about? Which party do you refer to? Hate and anger? Maybe you meant to click "reply" to 'Zumi, instead of me? I am not in need of any redemption, thank you very much.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @05:10PM
Gaslight
Obstruct
Project
Can lead a jackass to water but you can't make him see his reflection.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:08PM (3 children)
MAGA only benefits white, cisgendered men and white, cisgendered, heterosexual women of the petite bourgeois and lumpen proletariat who wish to be the submissive baby factories of the white snowflake race.
* MAGA seeks to harm people of color, regardless of US citizenship status. I don't think I need to elaborate on this one.
* MAGA seeks a final solution to trans women and the subjugation of the reproductive systems of trans men.
** MAGA uses a social construct theory of gender: it supposes that somebody born with a brain sex opposite their reproductive sex can be cajoled/brainwashed/beaten/killed into magically waking up one day and having a brain sex in line with their reproductive sex.
* MAGA seeks to control the lives of people with menstrual cycles who are at risk for unwanted pregnancy or need access to HRT to ease PMS/PMDD. Additionally, being able to freely consume cannabis during that time of the month is a human right.
You do not own us. You do not own our bodies. We do not need you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:16PM (2 children)
You must be a queer brown fuck who hates America.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @05:03PM (1 child)
Damn, a redcoat AC has me figured out! We've got a stable genius on our hands here!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 27 2019, @09:12AM
Funny how they think they are the patriots here.
Hate is an ugly force in the world.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:41AM
I think I will, if things continue.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:08AM (2 children)
The more presidential terms the Donald completes, the greater the soul searching from Democrats. They may even find one.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:54AM (1 child)
One presidential term, I like the sound of that!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:37PM
One soul, silly. The one soul that all of you dummies - errr DEMMIES share.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 24 2019, @11:20PM
I for one emotionally benefit from killings less foreigners for no reason, we don't need another Democrat warmonger.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @09:20PM
No, no, not possible. Definitely Poutine Puppits.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 18 2019, @10:26PM (10 children)
Oh god, I forgot Oprah is involved in this whole thing!
So I think the plot here is that we're supposed to get outraged about a DNC conspiracy to derail a fictional presidential ticket with Oprah Winfrey!
Gotta admit, I do wonder who was going to be on top of that ticket.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:27AM (9 children)
I forgot Oprah is involved in this whole thing!
That's right! And you still have failed to mention a single point against her. There's still a chance she could answer the call to serve her country if it's loud enough. Not wanting the job makes her more qualified than anybody on your tickets. She doesn't have to campaign or anything, that comes from us. You are welcome to join. The democrats have nothing better to offer. The Party [both factions] and the people that run it are decrepit and degenerate with loathing and avarice. Don't be complicit.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:42AM (3 children)
I'd like to think that would improve the candidate pool.
But I'm just about ready to surrender.
If Oprah as VP is the cost to see the first combat medic in the Presidency; I'm completely down.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:44AM (2 children)
The lady exudes peaceful confidence, always in command, without flashing the whip. She has "the look".
Once she is briefed, there should be no doubt she is as ready as anyone. You can have full confidence she knows better than most when not to pull the trigger, but also won't hesitate. If anybody can deescalate, Oprah can. Or would you rather have Springer? He was mayor once, so he knows the gig.
There is no reason not to call Oprah to sit under the Sword of Damocles. Few people would handle it as gracefully as she would.
And I will bet you a dollar the Tulsi/Oprah ticket is a winner. There is real power there.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:48AM (1 child)
I'm afraid she has preceded us, however, and is thus immune to any call to service.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:16AM
But there are many examples of that character. We must hunt them down and put them to work in the D.C. salt mines.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:45AM (4 children)
No, I'm pretty sure I already mentioned the biggest point against her: SHE ISN'T RUNNING
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:28AM (3 children)
Doesn't matter. She's still the best choice. The day is young. She may answer the Call of Duty. I would much have her than that other person that's "not running". The day is young there too.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:40PM
Please, that old skag used up her young days half a century ago.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @05:12PM (1 child)
Ah, so you let the media pick your candidates?
For someone so vocal about voting out corruption you sure bit the hook.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @06:03PM
Ah, so you let the media pick your candidates?
No, the 95% majority does. That's why you only see democrats and republicans. My candidate will only be only the ballot as an independent, while the ruling Party conducts its usual slanderous/libelous campaign against all competition and disagreement on the media.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @08:49PM
#confirmedlikekavanaugh
(Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 18 2019, @09:21PM (3 children)
Triggered! Two Journals in a row about it....
Starting to think it's completely true!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @09:44PM
Oh yeah! Thanks for reminding me. Where are those subpoenas and warrants? Can't spring the trap without being snared, can we? Just another week of vaporlaw...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @10:48PM
I'm starting to wonder is jmorris' absence and fusta's increased presence are correlated.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:32PM
Cultivate peace and harmony with all. ... In the execution of such a plan nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded, and that in place of them just and amicable feelings toward all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. - Putin's Puppet
(Score: 2) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @09:36PM (26 children)
I don't want her to be a spoiler, I want her to be President.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @09:52PM (22 children)
As a democrat, impossible. That candidate has already been chosen, and their base will go along. Her only hope is as an independent appealing to the non-voters and the disenfranchised from the DNC/GOP. The numbers are there to win, and in congress too. The prez is no good without them.. Victory is a trivial pursuit. Only the will is lacking.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @10:09PM (18 children)
For the sake of argument, assume that's true.
Then the next logical goal is to expose the DNC.
The more they have to cheat the higher the chance they'll be exposed.
The RNC cheated Dr. Paul and it fatally weakened them. That's the reason they couldn't cheat Trump the next time around.
Time for the DNC to go down too.
You never fight for a push. That's just dumb. You fight for the win. You take the push if that's what you wind up with.
The win would be an antiwar combat medic for President, under a major party label so she has a chance to win it outright.
The push would be that she gets so many votes the cheating is outrageous and detected.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @10:28PM (17 children)
Exposure is accomplishing nothing. They were exposed in 1968. What happened? Nothing but kangaroo court for the rioters. They do like the republicans and don't lose a vote. Whatever they did to Paul didn't weaken them at all. The Party still has 95% of the voters. It is simply a mistake treat the RNC/DNC as opposing groups. They work together, like the AFL/CIO. It is all perfectly natural and normal, for chimpanzees... For humans it is indeed pathological. We should be more like bonobos. More sex, less war.
She just will not win a DNC primary. And the base does not give a damn. Her only chance is in the general. Only from a safe distance can she blow up the RNC/DNC clown show.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @10:37PM (16 children)
You're right they were exposed in '68. You're wrong that nothing happened aside from the trial. It changed things, in many ways, not all clearly positive or negative, but it shook things up and it caused some change.
"Whatever they did to Paul didn't weaken them at all."
You couldn't be more wrong here. It weakened them catastrophically. Without that event, they would have simply ignored the primaries and given Ted Cruz the nomination. And HRC would have handily beat him, as intended.
"It is simply a mistake treat the RNC/DNC as opposing groups. They work together, like the AFL/CIO."
It's also simply a mistake to miss that they are opposing groups though.
They do work together, and they also work against each other. They're the two wings of the war party, both ultimately serving Baal, but he likes the idea that competing against each other keeps them sharp and efficient.
At least it keeps them too busy to think about picking any fights with him, yeah?
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @11:13PM (1 child)
They don't worship Baal, they worship Erebos: the god of the shadowy deep state.
(Score: 2) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @11:18PM
I suppose it's possible.
A late misunderstanding if so, however.
Ἔρεβος did not ask for, or accept, human sacrifice.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 18 2019, @11:29PM (13 children)
It weakened them catastrophically.
The RNC? Not at all. They still hold ~50% of congress and the white house. What losses are you talking about?
Whatever these people are doing, it's working like a charm. They have the world's attention and complicity.
If Tulsi is for real, she will go out and try to break the spell. As a democrat she is only a sheepdog like Sanders.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Friday October 18 2019, @11:57PM (12 children)
Their control is by pushing a thinly stretched string and the harder they push it the thinner it gets.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:48AM (11 children)
On the contrary. Independence brings more goodwill and respect, and even more from your adversaries, HAIL DOROTHY!. In independence there is strength of character that you won't ever get from a party patsy that follows orders. Your boxer vs. football player ring a bell?
Tulsi is not a serious candidate unless she runs as Tulsi. As a democrat, she's just another democrat. The voters know that. I believe they would all respond better if she cut the chains. It would really help if the non-voters decided to speak up and clarify her chances. Time to pull the plug on democrat/republicans
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:51AM (6 children)
Sorry, that was something else. I still don't see any noticeable damage from whatever they did to Paul. You are counting the money, right?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:58AM (5 children)
They reported him losing badly.
Even with the reduction this brought to his western turnout, he still had a huge pile of delegates when it was all counted up properly.
They refused to seat us unless we agreed to be gagged.
See, I get it, you're not a republican. I never was either really. Just that one primary I registered for it for Dr Paul.
Anyone like me that went through that is obviously not going to give the RNC the time of day.
But regular republicans, folks I woke up that always registered R but rarely made it to the polls? They saw this shit happen too.
It gutted the republican party in a single election cycle. It absolutely destroyed a very long tradition of trust between the grass roots and the party bosses.
It set the stage for the big old middle finger in the face vote for Trump the very next cycle.
And for the RNC to no longer be in a position to simply brush it aside and pretend it didn't happen. Fool me once, fool me twice.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:29AM (4 children)
So, they do like the DNC then, the party boss picks the candidate. Look, for them it all went to hell after Goldwater. Just another day... The "Trump" thing appears a little sloppy, but so far, the balance is being maintained, right down the middle, and nobody on the outside knows who from what. Nice orderly chaos. It's perfect! I mean, look at mass media! It's like those scary movies with his face on every paper, from Tierra del Fuego to Oslo and beyond. Tragic, yes, but genius!
Please don't take offense at the reminder that they are playing an entirely different game "behind the curtain". You know as well as I do that business is done in that little room in back of the grocery store out in the middle of Kansas. [oh! the meatballs! delicious!] They pass out enough trinkets to keep the grunts pacified, but that Learjet is still making its daily Vegas run. Tell me, what makes that scene any more ridiculous than what is on the news?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:39AM (3 children)
Want to give the next generation something other than hell on earth?
The only way I can see to do it is to push the boundaries on both approved wings of the war party until one dies.
Like the Whigs died.
The Republicans weren't the worst thing you could imagine. For a few decades, at least.
Time marches on however.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:54AM (2 children)
The only way I can see to do it is to push the boundaries on both approved wings of the war party until one dies.
Don't carry the burden of other peoples' choices. You will be crushed.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @02:58AM (1 child)
That's not the point. I want the next generation to have a chance.
I'll happily be crushed to give them one, if that's what it comes to.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @04:27AM
No, that is just the proverbial "kicking the can down the road". There is no hope for betterment by just playing along. This whole "lesser evil" bullshit is exactly what put us in this condition. More precisely, the democrats put us on this direct path with their disasterous efforts in "compromise" a decade ago [wikimedia.org]. That puff of smoke is what doomed us to *Trump* today and all the facsimiles popping up like mushrooms all over the place. Some of us recognized it then. A lot of good it did. They still throw tomatoes at us, as you can see throughout. They are perfectly alike. You gotta break free. So does she if she wants even the smallest chance. The propaganda campaign is in full swing. The base is swallowing the entire lure in a zombie like state. The parties are catatonic.
If you're gonna be crushed, *make it count*
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:51AM (3 children)
But not a better chance of taking office.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @12:57AM (2 children)
Yes, goodwill and respect from the voters can put you into office. You provide a real visible contrast from the trash on the other side of the tracks. There is a natural appeal to strength that has to be exploited in the very same way that defiance is working so well for the president's campaign.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by Arik on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:09AM (1 child)
Please be specific, and be prepared to defend.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 2, Funny) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 19 2019, @01:46AM
2020
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @10:10PM (1 child)
The problem is with going Hindi!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 19 2019, @04:10AM
Sad but likely true. This is the world we live in, not the world as we wish it to be.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @04:15PM
I changed my mind on Major Gabbard after reading this. High praise from wswsws: A rare moment of truth on the US support for Al Qaeda [wsws.org].
If independent, a Bernie/Tulsi 2020 ticket would make sense maybe from Socialist Alternative USA. (They are Bernie bros, but this deals in President Gabbard since Bernie likely does not have much time left on this planet.) On the other hand, Tulsi/Oprah may have incredible popular appeal. On the gripping hand, similarities between a D team and independent split and German SPD/KPD give me the heebie-jeebies.
Hopefully Senator Hirono's call for the collective guilt and collective punishment of all people without regular menstruation does not reflect the views of all politicians from Hawaii. (Well, Gabbard is from Samoa after all. Birthers including the alt-right and Hillary Clinton with her Russian Anunnaki theory can suck it.)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 18 2019, @09:58PM (2 children)
Is Tulsi promising you the Madonna treatment [rt.com] or something?
I suppose it's likely that's the only way (unless you count out the cash [motherlessmedia.com]) any woman is going to touch your penis.
Good luck with that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:31PM (1 child)
The incel thing is getting as stupid as the Russia thing. If it's not apparent by now based on that ABC article about “clowncels,” this is being promoted by the military intelligence apparatus in line with patriarchy and capitalism. Promotion of incels runs counter to progressive--or at least Marxist/anti-capitalist feminism.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 20 2019, @03:48PM
Clowncels, the incel upgrade, are a self-fulfilling prophecy. Society made the clowncels to have somebody to punch down on, and they will destroy civilization out of spite.