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Journal by fustakrakich
Oh really? Sounds very reliable!
Some Democrats involved in the impeachment inquiry are beginning to suspect that certain witnesses have coordinated with each other ahead of testifying to ensure their stories do not conflict—the very outcome investigators are trying to avoid by conducting hearings behind closed doors.
I sincerely hope you have more than this!
Oh, and that Syria "troop withdraw" thing? Not happening [according to "sources"], something about oil. Yeah, they had me fooled. But I don't know what story the announcement was meant to cover up.
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(Score: 2, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 25 2019, @04:20AM
You come dangerously close to using the word "reliable" in the same sentence with "democrat". You want to be careful there, or the Grammar Nazis may drag you out behind the barn.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @05:13AM (9 children)
So if their stories match they are guilty of colluding and if they don't match then they are guilty of lying.
Why don't they just chuck them in the pond and see if they weigh the same as a duck?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday October 25 2019, @05:42AM
Actually - in the real world, stories should match somewhat. But, when stories match too closely, you know there is collusion. If you have ever been a first responder, or even an early responder, to an emergency situation or disaster, you know that stories seldom match very closely. You look for key important details, from which to build your own version of the accident (or whatever) that you did not witness.
Raise a brood of kids, and unless you have a favorite, you'll learn much the same lesson. When stories match too closely, the kids are bullshitting you.
Hail to the Nibbler in Chief.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 25 2019, @02:29PM (7 children)
I think it might be all the colluding they're doing that makes it colluding.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 26 2019, @12:08AM (6 children)
Conspiracy is a crime.
Colluding doesn't mean much more than co-operating but it sounds bad without being actionable slander, so they started using it. Weasel words are a good way to tell when something is bullshit.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday October 26 2019, @04:45AM (5 children)
In an area where such cooperation is usually illegal. Such collusion if it were actually happening would indicate that someone isn't telling the truth. That's perjury of some sort, depending a bit on which group they're giving legal testimony to.
I think more the peculiar absence of subject and target for the claim is what makes it not slander/libel.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 26 2019, @05:29AM (4 children)
Call it what ever you want. The point is that there is even more cause to throw out the testimony. Without real evidence it's just not credible, and now it's even more tainted. I'll just have to wait to see what they pass to the senate. Sure hope they have something
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday October 26 2019, @02:41PM (3 children)
Hearsay from the Daily Beast can taint anything?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 26 2019, @05:55PM (2 children)
Yeah, it could all be lies, turtles all the way down. All we have is a man's word both ways. I'll run with the more plausible.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 26 2019, @07:15PM (1 child)
Then answer the House subpoena and give them the actual, verbatim transcript of the call. That way you aren't coloring it by anyone's recollection of events anymore.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 26 2019, @09:17PM
Then answer the House subpoena...
Yes, please.
and give them the actual, verbatim transcript of the call.
Impossible without tapes. It's all colored.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @06:25AM (3 children)
What fake news bullshit will you come up with next week?
(Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 25 2019, @02:26PM (2 children)
Fusty knows the sworn testimony demonstrating quid pro quo is devastating to his cause.
That's why he went back and deleted all his "no quip pro guo=no crime" journals.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @05:00PM (1 child)
Fusty knows the sworn testimony demonstrating quid pro quo is devastating to his cause.
My "cause"... So funny! But just so you know, your "sworn testimony" has only demonstrated collusion amongst the witnesses. Please, wake us when you get evidence.
You never heard any doubt from me that there is quid pro quo. it goes with the territory, including democrats, despite your denials. Your "sworn testimony" is tainted. Give us something concrete, or good luck.
You have the daily obstruction, work with that. It's all you got for now. I noticed that Giuliani is still a free man. The democrats soft touch is only more revealing of their own complicity, not hiding it.
I have not deleted a single journal. Last time I checked they are all still there. So I can confidently say you are lying. Since you won't believe me, ask the admins. But misinfo, that's your thing, babe[thanks for confirming that with your above post]. You guys lie just like the people you pretend to hate. This is why you can't win. It's why you cooked up Russiagate. It's pure deflection from DNC corruption. And I will admit it's working like a charm. Keeps them nice and even with the republicans, 50-50... Oh, and good job on Tulsi there! The slander/libel campaign also worked like a charm. The Clinton candidate will get the nod.
Your tribalism is pathological. Save yourself and break away.
I wish the people that are repulsed by this democrat bullshit would go independent instead of republican. We could win this. Maybe the non-voters will do a flash mob and show up to put the DNC/GOP out for good. Such is the dream...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 26 2019, @03:51PM
Ah yes, the self righteous post. Iconic alt-right trolling, very ok very cool.
The DOJ is required to deal with Trump, the senate isn't the DOJ so these crimes keep piling up. I'm not a fan of the dems, I think it took way too long for an impeachment inquiry.
BUT, if someone like who you claim to be is still calling for evidence then how can uou be blaming the Dems?
You're just a Republican troll attempting to play a "centrist" character to advance your agenda. Pathetic, here I thought Republicans valued personal responsibikity and often tout themselves as the party of morality. How far they've sunk.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @08:00AM (5 children)
So many Democrats are opposing Trump from the right, saying that he shouldn't take troops out of one particular region of Syria. Instead of being warmongers and supporting the military industrial complex, they could oppose Trump from the left by criticizing him for not actually taking all of our troops out of the region. They use the same 'Withdrawing now would be irresponsible!' and 'We have to support our allies!' arguments that were used in Vietnam and other wars, so anyone with a brain can see how this is a bad idea. But, war is one area where the vast majority of Democrats are all too similar to the Republicans, so only a few will take this principled stance at best. That's why all of the corrupt, warmongering, corporatist Democrats need to be primaried out of power by more progressive candidates who refuse to take money from corporations; that's the only way to avoid corruption, even if it puts the candidates at somewhat of a monetary disadvantage.
And, of course, none of the troops that Trump claimed to be withdrawing are actually leaving the middle east anyway, unsurprisingly; they're just being shuffled around to different areas. But, Democrats, being their usual politically inept selves, have managed to make themselves look like warmongers to the more ignorant segments of the population, while Trump gets to lie and claim that he's somehow anti-war.
(Score: 4, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 25 2019, @02:35PM (4 children)
Boy, of only those liberals were pointing out things like the the fact that Trump has INCREASED our involvement in those foreign wars! [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @05:24PM (2 children)
Yes, his predecessors' use of paid mercenaries [house.gov] is the preferable way, right?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 25 2019, @05:33PM (1 child)
A Democratic nominee for President introduces a Stop Arming Terrorists Act and it's murdered by Moscow Mitch McConnell. Pretty random thing to link to but OK.
(Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @05:48PM
Not random at all. That's how shit works. She is doing it the democrats' way, which has negative value. Advocate something they know won't pass. That's why they need a 50-50 congress, so any pre-designated villain can kill the bill and shift the blame. Despite your refusal to see, this is a team effort. Why you continue to support the charade will only be known by you.
Regardless, your attempt to single him out on this is silly. He is only carrying out previously set policy.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 27 2019, @01:10PM
Some progressives do oppose him from the left, and those tend to be anti-war. But, of course, merely decreasing troop levels would not be enough; we need to exit the middle east entirely.
Or are you denying that much of our so-called 'liberal media' and supposedly left-wing politicians are actually mostly on the right when it comes to issues of war? Democratic politicians are more likely to oppose war, but they still aren't all that likely to oppose it, and especially not when Trump is claiming (and he's lying of course) to be anti-war.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Rupert Pupnick on Friday October 25 2019, @12:09PM (10 children)
Let's just dismantle the entire testimony-based judicial system and go back to the law of the jungle.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @05:13PM (9 children)
Your facetiousness aside, how about coughing up real evidence instead of tainted testimony? I know it's a long shot, but it's definitely worth the effort. With evidence [and transparency!] you will get more support. Until then this is strictly a circus.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @06:10PM
You are probably one of the tendons in this dog wagging game. Get outta here you tainted shill.
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Friday October 25 2019, @07:25PM (7 children)
How about if we let the appropriate judicial process handle those questions, especially when they concern malfeasance of the highest office holder in the land? If it comes to a trial, let opposing counsel discredit witnesses and point to a lack of evidence. If it doesn't come to a trial, it doesn't.
I'm not looking for political support per se, but I am a big believer in rule of law.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @07:55PM (6 children)
How about if we let the appropriate judicial process handle those questions, especially when they concern malfeasance of the highest office holder in the land?
Yes, wouldn't that be nice? But both protagonist and antagonist have decided to agitate their respective base through mass media with nothing more than second and third hand hearsay before anybody can handle the questions in a legal manner.
What we have is Al Capone accusing John Dillinger of robbing a bank, not the "rule of law". It is primitive tribal rule of angry white men.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Friday October 25 2019, @11:41PM (5 children)
Relax. We’ve been through this many times before with other high profile investigations, both inside and outside of politics. The wheels of justice turn slowly. Let them turn.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 26 2019, @12:44AM (4 children)
We’ve been through this many times before with other high profile investigations, both inside and outside of politics.
Yes, we certainly have, in the last half century alone. And the result is still the same, nothing. A couple of months in Club Fed, and then you have your TV show, book deal, just another day in paradise as the retired distinguished statesman.
Sorry, this is just more of the same...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Sunday October 27 2019, @01:44PM (3 children)
Of course it’s more of the same, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near as inconsequential to the convicted as you suggest.
But anyway, this just brings us back full circle to my original point: what do you want to do, stop investigating people for crimes?
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday October 27 2019, @04:38PM (2 children)
what do you want to do, stop investigating people for crimes?
Where did I even imply that nonsense?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by Rupert Pupnick on Tuesday October 29 2019, @12:01AM (1 child)
I don’t know. I guess it’s my own inference from the sense of defeatism I get from your posts.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday October 29 2019, @12:14AM
I'm sorry you feel that way. I have more hope than most, but then, reality strikes...
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 25 2019, @02:33PM (5 children)
Just moving them to Iraq was never a withdrawal anyway.
US troops withdrawing from Syria are headed to Iraq [cnn.com]
Except, nope.
Iraq: American troops leaving Syria cannot stay in Iraq [apnews.com]
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday October 25 2019, @02:51PM (4 children)
I'll tell ya one place they're definitely NOT going to end up: HOME!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 25 2019, @05:16PM (3 children)
We all knew that from the beginning. The war and the accompanying lies have full bipartisan support. One more reason to replace these people with independents.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @06:14PM (2 children)
Lies and obfuscation all bent towards promoting 3rd parties like 2016.
If only there was a script to banish trolls *siiigh*
Traitors all around trying to destroy the US because the ideal of freedom, though far from achieved, is a dangerous sentiment to the oligarchy.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 27 2019, @04:26PM (1 child)
Not joking, the conservative asshats have taken to snarky replies like "why you hate prosperity huh?"
It would be nice if their brains would reboot and they forget fox news / breitbart existed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 27 2019, @04:57PM
Not joking
Yes you are. You're a fucking moron, demanding loyalty to the democrats. Fuck off with that. If you won't put up a decent candidate you don't get the vote! Capiche?
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 25 2019, @10:23PM
Look at the idiots in this thread: https://i.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/dn1uh4/rudy_giuliani_buttdials_nbc_reporter_heard/?limit=500 [reddit.com]
One of them makes up that Guilliani is getting paid by Ukranian Oligarch Dmitry Firtasch, then the rest go on a big huff and puff about that is the biggest news of the year and why is no one talking about it.
1) That is false bs some random person on Reddit made up
2) So now Trump was allied with the enemies of the Russians this whole time, not the Russians?
3) Why would it be illegal for Guilliani to have more than one client? Even if it were true, it is not a big deal.
4) Until last year this oligarch was using Lany Davis, the Clintons lawyer
Also, this butt dialing story is clearly made up. If you read the partial transcripts it is all about how Biden is "protected", this is bait to get the story covered by the idiots in the news, and another thing that thread is filled with is people making fun of the 3d chess idea.
Finally, why would Guilliani need a couple hundred thousand dollars? He must mean ounces of gold or bitcoins.