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posted by martyb on Wednesday October 30 2019, @11:07AM   Printer-friendly
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Linus Torvalds: 'I'm not a programmer anymore'

Linus Torvalds, Linux's creator, doesn't make speeches anymore. But, what he does do, and he did again at Open Source Summit Europe in Lyon France is have public conversations with his friend Dirk Hohndel, VMware's Chief Open Source Officer. In this keynote discussion, Torvalds revealed that he doesn't think he's a programmer anymore.

So what does the person everyone thinks of as a programmer's programmer do instead? Torvalds explained:

I don't know coding at all anymore. Most of the code I write is in my e-mails. So somebody sends me a patch ... I [reply with] pseudo code. I'm so used to editing patches now I sometimes edit patches and send out the patch without having ever tested it. I literally wrote it in the mail and say, 'I think this is how it should be done,' but this is what I do, I am not a programmer.

So, Hohndel asked, "What is your job?" Torvalds replied, "I read and write a lot of email. My job really is, in the end, is to say 'no.' Somebody has to say 'no' to [this patch or that pull request]. And because developers know that if they do something that I'll say 'no' to, they do a better job of writing the code."

Torvalds continued, "Sometimes the code changes are so obvious that no messages [are] really required, but that is very very rare." To help your code pass muster with Torvalds it helps to ''explain why the code does something and why some change is needed because that in turn helps the managerial side of the equation, where if you can explain your code to me, I will trust the code."

In short, these days Torvalds is a code manager and maintainer, not a developer. That's fine with him: "I see one of my primary goals to be very responsive when people send me patches. I want to be like, I say yes or no within a day or two. During a merge, the day or two may stretch into a week, but I want to be there all the time as a maintainer."

That's what code maintainers should do.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by acid andy on Wednesday October 30 2019, @04:52PM

    by acid andy (1683) on Wednesday October 30 2019, @04:52PM (#913787) Homepage Journal

    On top of that, many of the changes are re-inventing the wheel, by clever young folk who don't know what came before. This is especially true when it comes to things where consultants earn their bucks - project management methodologies and the like. They've all been done before, in trivially different ways, with different terminology for the same concepts.

    This has to be one of the most irritating attributes of the industry. The hundreds of person-years, the billions of dollars that must get wasted on reimplementing the exact same functionality using some new fad technology (which itself is probably just a bit of lipstick and some different buzzwords put on an older technology), over and over again.

    I'd say a good 50-60% of software development work is therefore like getting paid to dig holes and fill them in again. But management seem to fall for it, again and again. On the plus side, I suppose at least that kind of work is doing less damage to the environment than someone working in manufacturing or the mining industry, although there is the wasted electricity of running all the computers.

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