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"The US House of Representatives has passed a resolution to formally proceed with the impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump.
The measure details how the inquiry will move into a more public phase. It was not a vote on whether the president should be removed from office.
This was the first test of support in the Democratic-controlled House for the impeachment process.
The White House condemned the vote, which passed along party lines.
Only two Democrats - representing districts that Mr Trump won handily in 2016 - voted against the resolution, along with all Republicans, for a total count of 232 in favour and 196 against."
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Trump Impeachment: House Votes to Formalise Inquiry
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by bussdriver on Friday November 01 2019, @07:13PM (3 children)
Nixon had "plumbers" who incompetently broke into the watergate building 4 times trying to find dirt. illegal but also immortal, unethical, etc. At least Nixon hired AMERICAN "plumbers"! Since the whole mess wasn't completely investigated who knows if he had "electricians" or others ... he trashed the evidence instead of handing it over as it was REQUIRED by the constitution to do. Abuse of power; obstruction was on his impeachment. (well, abuse of power is basically the whole purpose for impeachment.)
Stupid Watergate 1: Russia collusion. Saved like every mobster-- by using obstruction; nobody talks against the don...or has physical evidence since stooges do the work. The mobster professes their innocence over and over and over plus how unfair it's being pinned on them... There is no murder! You don't have the body! as their stooges obstruct (contempt etc.) to insulate from a direct connection. Leaving it to the IRS or accountants at the FBI to go after the money laundering.... but never get the crimes behind all those coverups. Better to get a few years of contempt than life for the actual crime. Loyalty is how it all works and why it's so extremely important.
Stupid Watergate 2: Ukraine; but it's a shakedown... it even involves protection money! "Find" some dirt or else I'd hate to see my FRIEND Putin have his way with you... He can't even have Americans do the shakedown! Could he have found more shady looking/sounding Ukrainians to handle the job?
This is like a children's spy movie... Spy Kids? the villain is a fool and hires fools whose incompetence is largely tolerated. 1 henchman is punished as an example to others because the FOOL thinks loyalty is the problem when it's always incompetence why they fail to stop the Spy Kids. (the heroes who are extremely lucky too.) Biden should learn from his grandchildren's movies! Go turn himself into Trump to confess but instead get him to monologue...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @07:16PM (2 children)
Johnson spied on Nixon but was never outed publicly. Both parties are criminal in similar ways
(Score: 2) by bussdriver on Friday November 01 2019, @10:47PM
I listened to the Johnson declassified tapes a few times... they drop some new ones now and then.
Nixon actually traveled abroad and made a deal with the ENEMY (Vietnam) to not make any deals with Johnson who was beginning to negotiate a deal with them. Johnson was aware of Nixon's TREASON but you can hear it in his own words on the tape. Dig it up. He didn't like the political mess it would create in doing so. Obviously, they were spying on Nixon... because the enemy was being spied on along with ANYBODY who did business with them! That is something you must to if you are going to find any traitors or spies...
During Obama they were watching Russian agents who ended up dealing with some Trump people so obviously they ended up aware of such interactions. Hell, Trump can be clean but you sure as hell want to know what some employee is doing with the enemy agent! you don't stop recording when the traitor turns out to be somebody important; that makes it possibly an even more important case! This is really basic stuff; it's nothing like the patriot act BS expanding into listening to all our phone calls.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 01 2019, @11:38PM
Nixon committed treason before his election but Johnson let it go.