All things considered, a pretty large update! I've got more to talk about, but check back past the break for that.
So, a long announced, and long-delayed feature, I want to offer a round of applause to TheMightyBuzzard, who did most of the grunt work; Bytram, who did most of the sanity checking; and paulej72, who lost his sanity in getting UTF-8 full-functional in Slashcode with a massive merge that caused my brain to melt the first time I looked at it. This was a massive amount of work, but the site should no longer have those long-frustrating issues where characters randomly show up, or get mutated after you click Preview or Submit, something that was true on the other site as well. As part of the work on this, Slashcode was modified to be native UTF-8 or in other words we're not dong any sort of conversion to HTML entities or such, and four-bit unicode characters are also working as expected (contrary to what was previously reported). As part of this update, most of the annoying aspects of the lameass filter got ripped out as they were incompatible with unicode support, and mostly served to piss people off vs. serving any using spam prevention method.
As I've stressed before, time and again, this site exists for the community, so if you've got some ideas, post them below, and let us hear about it!
On the business side of things, I'm working on drafting a "longer-term" plan, hopefully ready to present something this week, or early next week, which lays down a specific "here's what we are going to do" plan, and then let you guys think it over, poke it with a stick, then call me an idiot, and have me do it again; as far as running a site, its been a pretty successful model thus far :-)
Expect one or two more "meta" posts in the next few days, and until then, let me know your thoughts below
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 18 2014, @09:21PM
I would like to see quote tags do more than just indentation.
My wishlist would be to have them look more like Ars Technica's quotes - but do it all in CSS, not javascript.
(1) Quote bar on the left so you can easily count the nested levels
(2) Collapsable/expandable - with the least indented quote visible by default and then all/nothing for collapsing the rest.
(Score: 3, Informative) by BasilBrush on Monday August 18 2014, @10:00PM
I would like to see quote tags do more than just indentation.
Try using <quote> rather than <blockquote>
It didn't used to work, but it does with this release. :-)
Time to remove my sig!
Hurrah! Quoting works now!
(Score: 1) by bryan on Monday August 18 2014, @10:28PM
There is no such thing as an HTML <quote> tag. There is only <blockquote> and <q>.
P.S. the lameness filter is worse now. For example, this message got a "Your comment has too few characters per line (currently 7.5)." message even though it was only 1 line long.
(Score: 2) by paulej72 on Tuesday August 19 2014, @01:11AM
./ has an internal system for
, but I have not looked into this fully and I thought that this is what we were implementing. We will probably need to look into that more. But for the second issue, I just made a change to turn off the line length filter.
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(Score: 2) by paulej72 on Tuesday August 19 2014, @01:18AM
Well that will teach me to not use preview. The comment above has a <quote> tag in it. Slash converts this to a <div class="quote">. This is what I though it was going to do without fully looking into the code.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 19 2014, @02:56AM
Another example of how letting logged in users optionally force a preview like it does for AC's would be a good thing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 19 2014, @04:18PM
Of course, HTML also has no <ecode> tag.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 18 2014, @10:45PM
I would like to see quote tags do more than just indentation.
Try using <quote> rather than <blockquote>
It didn't used to work, but it does with this release. :-)
I am using just <quote> - above is nested quotes.
I am seeing indents where the more indented, the lighter the grey color of the text.
I don't see indent bars and I don't see anything collapsible.
Other than the very user-unfriendly reduction of contrast, I don't see any difference than how it was yesterday.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday August 19 2014, @08:09PM
Collapsible? Maybe. Different style? Proposed on dev: http://dev.soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=1105&cid=26449 [soylentnews.org]
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 19 2014, @09:29PM
I like the different gradients, that helps to make multiple segmented quotes understandable and the reduction in contrast is made up for by the increase in utility.
But I don't like the 3D effect, it makes me feel like I am looking down on a pyramid. I do not have enough UX knowledge to propose a better way.
(Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Tuesday August 19 2014, @09:40PM
I am seeing indents where the more indented, the lighter the grey color of the text.
FFS. Yesterday the <quote> tag had indent bars. Now they've removed them. WTF?!
Hurrah! Quoting works now!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday August 19 2014, @11:59PM
Better?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 20 2014, @11:39AM
I don't know what BasilBrush thinks about it, but I like the new quoting style very much.
(Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Wednesday August 20 2014, @10:41PM
Yes, thanks!
Hurrah! Quoting works now!