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posted by n1 on Tuesday August 19 2014, @05:43PM   Printer-friendly
from the put-your-business-head-on dept.

Jon Evans writes at TechCrunch that some extremely successful companies, notably Facebook and Google, are famously engineer-centric, and many, many engineers go on to become successful CEOs. But at many companies engineers are treated as less-than-equal because they are often viewed as idiot savants. "We may speak the magic language of machines, the thinking goes, but we aren’t business people, so we aren’t qualified to make the most important decisions. That’s for the analysts, the product people, the MBAs. They might throw money our way, but they don’t take our opinions seriously, at least not the ones they understand."

Michael O. Church, describes the different experiences of the same candidate applying for a position of “Senior Software Engineer” vs. “VP of Data Science,” a managerial position. "As an engineering candidate, he faced five gruelling technical interviews and was arbitrarily vetoed by the last interviewer. As a managerial candidate, he essentially chatted his way through behavioral questions–and was offered a lucrative position with a generous relocation package. Church argues that this difference is because engineers have low social status, whereas even managerial candidates, one they’ve proven they can talk the talk, are viewed as equals."

Evans says it’s an inevitable side effect of companies who boast completely non-technical managers. "People who have never written code or soldered diodes, who don’t really understand what and how engineers do what we do, have no alternative but to have blind faith in us. Which, paradoxically, leads to less respect, because it’s the root cause of idiot-savant syndrome," writes Evans. "f you’re an engineer who’s treated as automatically lesser than an business graduate or MBA, or worst of all, treated as a cloistered savant, that’s a warning sign. Consider your future carefully if so."

 
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by kaszz on Tuesday August 19 2014, @10:23PM

    by kaszz (4211) on Tuesday August 19 2014, @10:23PM (#83272) Journal

    Seems the solution is to not buy securities in any company that is run by MBA style of people or work for them. That type of people can only appreciate clones of themselves. Perhaps the whole idea work-and-get-paid is not working anymore.

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  • (Score: 2) by etherscythe on Thursday August 21 2014, @08:01PM

    by etherscythe (937) on Thursday August 21 2014, @08:01PM (#84071) Journal

    MBA types don't seem to work anymore. They network and play golf. I have to remind myself that there is a value to making connections; without customers your business does not sell product. But it still seems that the business priorities are rather skewed in that direction because these are the guys who run the asylum and have difficulty appreciating the effort it takes to really build a quality product.

    It's going to be a rude shock to them when "consumers" don't need big companies for a whole lot, and instead have 3D printers and open source manufacturing in personal or neighborhood workshops. Their empires will crumble and there will be much weeping and gnashing of teeth on the Street of Wall, and rending of expensive suits in grief. I think I'd look forward to it, if there wasn't likely to be much pain to reach everyone else too. Politics is built on the existing paradigm, remember, and they will not go quietly into the night.

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    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Friday August 22 2014, @12:43AM

      by kaszz (4211) on Friday August 22 2014, @12:43AM (#84164) Journal

      Is that golf networking necessary to get buyers?

      As for suits in grief. Expect new laws that slows 3D and open source and what you will. Law is usually the remedy of the really influential.