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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday November 16 2019, @06:56PM   Printer-friendly
from the walled-garden dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

Apple is removing all vaping apps from its online store.

It said it had taken the decision because of growing official concerns about the impact vaping can have on health.

In the US, 42 deaths and more than 2,100 cases of lung injury have been linked to a respiratory illness tied to vaping.

Apple's decision means a total of 181 apps will not be available on iPhones, reports tech news site Axios.

In a statement given to Axios, Apple said it agreed with official warnings about the negative health impacts of vaping and the potential problem presented by the appeal of e-cigarettes to the young.

It said it took "great care" to ensure that the app store was a place people could trust to get programs for their iPhone.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:02PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:02PM (#921042)

    Vaping, ride sharing, selfies, scooters, twitch streaming, rickshaws. Everything Generation Z does should be banned.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:10PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:10PM (#921047)

      Can we keep hoverboards?

      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:25PM

        by sjames (2882) on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:25PM (#921067) Journal

        Just be careful not to trigger the self-destruct mechanism.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:42PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:42PM (#921072)

        Only an ignorant Gen Z believes self balancing scooters are real hoverboards.

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by VLM on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:25PM

      by VLM (445) on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:25PM (#921111)

      dont forget rimming

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:09PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:09PM (#921046)

    There's A headline I'd like to see

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:17PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:17PM (#921052)

      Apple Bank, Apple Records, or Apple Vacations?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @10:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @10:09PM (#921081)

        iPhoto iWork

  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by paul_engr on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:21PM (7 children)

    by paul_engr (8666) on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:21PM (#921056)

    What the hell is a vaping app?

    • (Score: 4, Funny) by SomeGuy on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:32PM (2 children)

      by SomeGuy (5632) on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:32PM (#921060)

      It probably exclusively controls the spinning rainbow LEDs in their vape pipes or some retarded shit like that.

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:21PM (2 children)

      by sjames (2882) on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:21PM (#921066) Journal

      Some seem a bit silly, but there are some that calculate proportions for people wanting to mix their own. That is, given unflavored nicotine at 100mg/ml, a target nicotine level (expressed as mg/ml) and a desired % by volume of flavoring, how much nicotine, flavoring, and glycerin should be mixed to yield a desired amount of vape juice.

      Not a complex calculation, but some people need the hand holding.

      • (Score: 1) by paul_engr on Sunday November 17 2019, @09:11PM (1 child)

        by paul_engr (8666) on Sunday November 17 2019, @09:11PM (#921306)

        Just like how there are a trillion tip calculator specific apps. Use your stock calculator, you dumbass

        • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday November 17 2019, @10:49PM

          by sjames (2882) on Sunday November 17 2019, @10:49PM (#921323) Journal

          Personally, I rarely bother with even the pencil and paper. Since you called me a dumbass, let's try a practical. I have unflavored nicotine at 100mg/ml. I want 15% flavoring (by volume) in 150ml of juice at 30mg/ml. Please show your work.

          Then ask your mom and dad to do it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @09:13PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 16 2019, @09:13PM (#921075)

      What the hell is a vaping app?

      I asked myself the same question.

      According to Axios [axios.com]:

      What's happening: The company has never allowed the sale of vape cartridges directly from apps. But there were apps that let people control the temperature and lighting of their vape pens, and others provided vaping-related news, social networks and games.

      • Apple has been headed in this direction since June, when it stopped accepting new apps that promote vaping.
      • Those who already have a vaping-related app on their iPhone will be able to continue using the app and install it on new devices.
  • (Score: 5, Informative) by sjames on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:29PM (5 children)

    by sjames (2882) on Saturday November 16 2019, @07:29PM (#921058) Journal

    The CDC already figured out that the problem was vitamin E oil added to some black/gray market vape juices as a cheap filler that just happens to make THC vape juice look stronger than it actually is.

    The only thing banning vape calculators will do is cause more people to vape incorrect mixtures. Which is sad since there are no calculations involved that a simple 4 function calculator can't do (or pencil and paper or arithmetic in your head).

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by MostCynical on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:16PM (2 children)

      by MostCynical (2589) on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:16PM (#921065) Journal

      Better remove all the calculator apps, as well

      --
      "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:30PM (1 child)

        by sjames (2882) on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:30PM (#921068) Journal

        After all, if people start doing the math, a lot of marketing these days will go down the tubes. Next thing you know, the tubes get clogged and people can't download their spyware and in-game purchase Skinner boxes.

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by MostCynical on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:51PM

          by MostCynical (2589) on Saturday November 16 2019, @08:51PM (#921074) Journal

          If any "brain training" and "critical thinking" apps worked, they'd be banned too

          --
          "I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Barenflimski on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:14PM (1 child)

      by Barenflimski (6836) on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:14PM (#921103)

      I've never seen nor heard of the "Make THC Vape juice look stronger than it actually is."

      Here in Colorado it was used to dilute the thicker THC "juice" so that it would smoke correctly in a vape pen.

      On a side note. The dispensaries here in Colorado quit using Vitamin E oil a couple of years ago as there was a strong consensus among smokers that the stuff was bad for you. For the most part it was as simple as the folks saying, "this stuff makes my lungs hurt, we don't want any additives."

      Currently, if your vape products are cut with anything out here at all, its cut with Propylene Glycolol (PG). Propylene Glycol is currently being phased out. The processors have been able to refine their techniques over the year where they don't need to cut the THC "juice" anymore for it to smoke in a vape pen.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by sjames on Sunday November 17 2019, @04:02AM

        by sjames (2882) on Sunday November 17 2019, @04:02AM (#921174) Journal

        As I understand it, less legitimate suppliers (especially in states where THC is not legalized) wanted to add far more filler than was necessary to make the THC vape properly, but if they just used PG or VG, it was visually apparent that the THC was overly diluted.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Captival on Saturday November 16 2019, @09:15PM (6 children)

    by Captival (6866) on Saturday November 16 2019, @09:15PM (#921076)

    How many people have died in car accidents? Ban Uber.
    How many people have died from STD exposure? Ban Tinder.
    How many people have died from heart attacks? Ban Pizza Hut.

    I'm completely tired of corporations forcibly being my nursemaid for me.

    • (Score: 3, Funny) by maxwell demon on Saturday November 16 2019, @09:58PM (1 child)

      by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 16 2019, @09:58PM (#921078) Journal

      Most people die in bed. Ban beds!

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by edIII on Sunday November 17 2019, @12:11AM (3 children)

      by edIII (791) on Sunday November 17 2019, @12:11AM (#921124)

      Uh huh. Well then stop giving them that power. Apple actually has the right to control its app store.

      Stop giving power to corporations like that in the first place.

      There are ways to distribute software that route around such attempts at control as damage.

      --
      Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 17 2019, @10:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 17 2019, @10:36PM (#921318)

        Yes. Stop allowing yourself to be used by proprietary software (which gives the tyrants who make it control over your computing) and locked-down prisons like Apple devices.

      • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Monday November 18 2019, @12:57AM (1 child)

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Monday November 18 2019, @12:57AM (#921359)

        >Stop giving power to corporations like that in the first place.
        >There are ways to distribute software that route around such attempts at control as damage.

        There are, but they don't work on Apple products AFAIK.

        I think it's very simple: if you own an Apple phone, then you simply have no right to complain about Apple banning apps from its store. That's *literally* one of the main reasons Apple supporters give for why they love their iPhones so much. If you don't like the way Apple curates its store, then why did you buy a phone from them? Stop complaining.

        I've seen this discussion *so many times*:
            Android proponent: You should get an Android phone instead of that iPhone. Google isn't so heavy-handed with their app store, and if you really want, you can side-load apps with other app stores.
            iPhone user: But I *like* that Apple curates their app store! I don't have to worry about some dodgy app infecting my phone with malware or being a scam.
            Android proponent: Well with Android you just have to be more careful...
            iPhone user: ... but with Apple I don't have to be. Everything "just works", I can trust them, it works with my MacBook, they're not using my data for other purposes, ...

        You can't have everything. If you've chosen Apple, you're explicitly chosen the safety of their walled garden, so you have no right to complain about the way they do gardening.

        • (Score: 2) by edIII on Monday November 18 2019, @02:13AM

          by edIII (791) on Monday November 18 2019, @02:13AM (#921378)

          Exactly. Those chose to have a computing "experience" akin to riding a train across the Internet. Which is how Jobs is rumored to have described his ideal relationship with consumers; Paid passengers on managed experiences, not actual freedom in computing.

          If you care about freedom and actually owning your devices, you don't have Apple products.

          --
          Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:17PM

    by VLM (445) on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:17PM (#921106)

    burning lithium battery flavor tastes bad anyway

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:24PM

    by VLM (445) on Saturday November 16 2019, @11:24PM (#921110)

    a place people could trust

    What does "trust" have to do with nanny babysitting for children? That press release is newspeak, doubleplus ungood.

  • (Score: 2) by The Shire on Monday November 18 2019, @05:39PM

    by The Shire (5824) on Monday November 18 2019, @05:39PM (#921599)

    I don't vape, I don't care for vaping. What I do care about is the freedom to choose how I live my life insofar as it doesn't harm anyone else. What we have here is a tiny group of executives enforcing their own personal stance on everyone who uses their hardware because they know their consumers have no alternative but to use the Apple store. At least with Android, while you still have a set of executives who also exert their control over the Google Store, there is still an alternative (F-Droid).

    Whatever happened to simply putting a warning on a product so the consumer can make their own informed decision.

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