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posted by n1 on Wednesday August 20 2014, @06:17AM   Printer-friendly
from the it's-time-to-grow-up dept.

Jessica Roy reports at NY Magazine that news aggregator Fark has became one of the first original link aggregators to ban misogyny from its community making moderators responsible for ensuring that misogyny doesn't make its way into headlines or comments. Banned headlines include rape jokes, calling women as a group "whores" or "sluts" or similar demeaning terminology, and jokes suggesting that a woman who suffered a crime was somehow asking for it.

There are lots of examples of highly misogynistic language in pop culture, and Fark has used those plenty over the years. From SNL's "Jane, you ignorant slut" to Blazing Saddles' multiple casual references to rape, there are a lot of instances where views are made extreme to parody them. On Fark, we have a tendency to use pop culture references as a type of referential shorthand with one another.

On SNL and in a comedy movie, though, the context is clear. On the Internet, it's impossible to know the difference between a person with hateful views and a person lampooning hateful views to make a point.

According to Roy, Fark's new guidelines are a "refreshing departure from the misguided free speech arguments that sites like Reddit that bend over backwards to defend the handful of misogynist communities that are among its ranks, not to mention the free-floating slut-shaming that snakes its way into regular comment threads."

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Wednesday August 20 2014, @08:51AM

    by Lagg (105) on Wednesday August 20 2014, @08:51AM (#83447) Homepage Journal

    This is a pretty common thing that Hugh Pickens pulls. He cross posts to both slashdot and soylent and the editors are just trying to be objective and don't even read slashdot anymore. Pretty kind of them too because it's clear that Hugh doesn't give a damn about Slashdot's integrity much less Soylent's and its future with this crap. It's apparently too much to ask of him that he send submissions to either one or the other.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 20 2014, @09:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 20 2014, @09:44AM (#83458)

    Who cares whether it was posted on Slashdot. The only question that matters is whether it is interesting for this site.

    • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Wednesday August 20 2014, @10:15AM

      by Lagg (105) on Wednesday August 20 2014, @10:15AM (#83469) Homepage Journal

      Given that it deals with a website technically similar to this one in a way and an issue that is one huuuge clusterfuck of professional victims getting pedestals and actual victims getting drowned out is involved then yes objectively I would say it's appropriate for a site with the slogan "SoylentNews is people."

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      • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 20 2014, @11:07AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 20 2014, @11:07AM (#83483)

        Might as well face it sooner rather than later - you're butthurt crazy.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Wednesday August 20 2014, @01:14PM

      by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 20 2014, @01:14PM (#83505)

      Part of the story isn't interesting. The actual activity was banning trolly behavior. You can be as misogynistic as you want as long as you're not using it as a trolling theme in certain rather precisely described trolling behaviors. Just troll under another theme or slightly differently, who cares. Nobody wants to talk about that aspect of the story, just the relative merits of misogyny as a philosophical outlook or whatever, which has little to do with the story.

      That aspect, and lots of semi funny jokes. Maybe the humor aspect alone redeems the story, maybe humor alone isn't enough.

  • (Score: 2) by jasassin on Wednesday August 20 2014, @09:45AM

    by jasassin (3566) <jasassin@gmail.com> on Wednesday August 20 2014, @09:45AM (#83459) Journal

    Sorry, couldn't resist:

    1. Submit story to /.
    2. Submit story to Soylent News
    3. ???
    4. Profit.

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    • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Wednesday August 20 2014, @10:23AM

      by Lagg (105) on Wednesday August 20 2014, @10:23AM (#83472) Homepage Journal

      You might actually be closer than you think with that. Though I respect him for not linking to stuff with ads or even analytics so far as I can tell I swear he does this stuff so he can get more clicks to his... Interestingly bizarre website and push whatever thing he happens to be working on. Though he's entitled to do this and deserves at least that much as a reward for his submission (you'll notice I do this too but lagg.me is a personal homepage that is basically a business card with no other agenda) he's kind of shameless about it and really shows no indication that he understands what's wrong with the blatant cross posting and redundancy. He literally says what amounts to "What? *shrug*" in the occasional times he pops into comments.

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  • (Score: 2) by Boxzy on Wednesday August 20 2014, @03:22PM

    by Boxzy (742) on Wednesday August 20 2014, @03:22PM (#83561) Journal

    If you just stopped going to slashdot, or simply for the sake of everyone here just shut up about it, we wouldn't know. So, please shut up.

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    • (Score: 3) by Lagg on Wednesday August 20 2014, @04:47PM

      by Lagg (105) on Wednesday August 20 2014, @04:47PM (#83598) Homepage Journal

      When did I say I stopped using slashdot? I mean true I did but that wasn't relevant to this topic and I didn't mention it. Surely you're not dumb enough to somehow misinterpret my post as saying I am an editor? Oh who am I kidding. All of your type that respond to that kind of statement with rabid hate are the same.

      Also, I don't watch TV either or even have one. \_(⌐■_■)_/

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      • (Score: 2) by Boxzy on Saturday August 23 2014, @02:36PM

        by Boxzy (742) on Saturday August 23 2014, @02:36PM (#84665) Journal

        I just don't want to hear about slashdot. I don't care what happens there. I don't care who posts there. You DO know why this site exists right? I did not say you stopped going to slashdot, I said you SHOULD STOP going to slashdot, OR shut up about it. Is that so hard to understand? Also, 'All your type' are why we came here to escape. Well done insulting everyone here.

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  • (Score: 2) by Ryuugami on Wednesday August 20 2014, @03:36PM

    by Ryuugami (2925) on Wednesday August 20 2014, @03:36PM (#83570)

    When I saw that there are a few Hugh Pickens posts on the SN homepage, my first thought was "This guy again?"

    But then I looked to the upper right corner, and saw the "Only 14 submissions in the queue" message.

    When the number of submissions is that low (which is more often than not), you can't be too picky. Maybe if you wrote some good submissions yourself, the number of HP stuff would be lower? Just a thought.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Lagg on Wednesday August 20 2014, @04:43PM

      by Lagg (105) on Wednesday August 20 2014, @04:43PM (#83596) Homepage Journal

      If you'd have looked at my other posts in this rather small thread instead of pulling that idiotic "send them yourself" card (and I have sent several) you'll note that I actually believe Hugh was within his right for sending it and it was in fact an article appropriate for this site. What you see there was merely my answer to the person complaining about the cross post.

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