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Journal by barbara hudson
In myprevious journal entry, I wrote about how a cop and their employer were ordered to pay $20,000 for writing a really stupid ticket.

Here's something in the judgment, as reported by Radio-Canada (the national French TV/radio network - yes I am bilingual, tabernac), that people in other countries, including my neighbours to the south, might want to consider (because countries, while not bound to rulings in other countries, sometimes use them to inform their judgments).

The court stated that police officers cannot blindly follow their training as a defence to liability. They must use reasonable judgment (aka common sense).

So, not only is "I was just following orders" not a defence, neither is "I was just following my training."

Given the ongoing problems with the Montreal police force, the refusal of leadership to admit to racism ("there's a systemic problem, not racism"), and the lack of trust in the police by the general population (even people who don't have a criminal record don't want to call them), at last here's a cudgel to beat them with to maybe force them to change.

Here's one recent example of police stupidity

A Montreal mom was left confused after an officer wrote her a $169 ticket for driving in the HOV lane with her daughter. The officer claimed the nine-year-old passenger needed a driver’s licence.

Stéphanie Émond was driving in the Sources Boulevard carpool lane last week when the officer pulled her over. The lane is reserved for buses, taxis and cars carrying two or more people, as the roadside sign indicated, so Émond was puzzled. Even more so when she received the pricey ticket.

The officer claimed that in order to drive in the high-occupancy vehicle lane, Émond’s daughter needed to have a driver’s licence herself. After all, carpool lanes are meant to keep more cars off the road. Since her daughter couldn’t drive herself yet, they’re not reducing emissions.

“She went on to say, ‘With your daughter not having a driver’s permit, we’re obviously not getting cars off the road this way.’ So she thought that I deserved a ticket,” Émond recalled on CTV News Channel Wednesday. “She seemed very sure of what she was telling me.”

Émond understands the eco-friendly purpose of a carpool lane, but says there’s no clear definition of who constitutes a “passenger” in a carpool lane so she shouldn’t have been ticketed.

“When there’s no definition, we cannot make one up. It has to be written somewhere and we can’t just issue (a ticket) based on interpretation of the law -- even if it made a lot of sense,” she said.

The Quebec website for the Canadian Automobile Association supports Émond’s position. There is no age requirement for carpooling, it says, quoting Transport Québec spokesperson Solène Lemay as saying “a parent taking a child to daycare is assumed to be carpooling.”

You really can't make this shit up.

The guy who destroyed his SUV by blocking a stolen car from hitting pedestrians a couple of weeks ago is lucky he didn't get a ticket for obstructing traffic and another one for causing an accident.

Anyone else got crazy stupid cop stories?

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 30 2019, @01:11AM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 30 2019, @01:11AM (#926210)

    Kill Immigrants. Vote Libertarian. Give free money to Old People.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by barbara hudson on Saturday November 30 2019, @01:32AM (5 children)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday November 30 2019, @01:32AM (#926219) Journal

      Won't work. Older women tend to be more liberal (older men don't count as much because they die earlier). I have zero interest in killing someone who needs help because of the US's fucked up foreign meddling. Or any other meddling. Or any repressive government regime.

      With an aging population, we need more immigrants. Of course, you can always opt for a colostomy so you don't have to have your diaper changed whenever you shit yourself in the old age home. That's my plan (but not because I'm anti-immigration, I just don't want to lie in bed in my own shit for half an hour until someone comes to change my diaper.)

      I would laugh if in the future health care workers who are immigrants or children of immigrants refused to serve racist fucks. With big data, they may have that option soon. Just "slow walk" every time you press the buzzer until you croak.

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      • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 30 2019, @01:58AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 30 2019, @01:58AM (#926229)

        Older women tend to be more liberal

        Sorry, I stop reading when you make delusional claims that have no basis in observable reality. Obviously you have never met any old women.

        Get out of your basement echo chamber and go work at your local polling place next election.

        • (Score: 2) by dry on Saturday November 30 2019, @08:17AM

          by dry (223) on Saturday November 30 2019, @08:17AM (#926332) Journal

          I've met enough old women to know that a good chunk of them are pretty liberal.

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by krishnoid on Saturday November 30 2019, @04:29AM (2 children)

        by krishnoid (1156) on Saturday November 30 2019, @04:29AM (#926282)

        Once again, Japan leads the way [satwcomic.com]. Also, why do older women tend to be more liberal, and does any of that trickle down into guidance to the younger generations of women?

        • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday November 30 2019, @07:41PM (1 child)

          by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday November 30 2019, @07:41PM (#926514) Journal

          Wish I could read the text of the comic, but even with everything zoomed 2x on a 27" screen, it's illegible for me, so I can't comment on it. But I wanted you to know that I didn't just ignore your comment.

          As for whether it's passed on through generations, there are just too many variables to give a real answer without really thinking about it for a few days - or years. (shrug).

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @12:31PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 02 2019, @12:31PM (#927083)

            PANEL 1
            Sweden: Your robots are amazing, Japan!
            Japan: Thank you

            PANEL 2:
            Sweden: How did you get this good? What inspired you to reach this level of skill?
            Japan: Well, I've always had a fascination with dolls, so making mechanic and electronic dolls that move and talk was only natural. And hopefully they'll be good enough to do all the hard and dirty work when I'm old, so I don't have to let dirty immigrants into my pure country.

            PANEL 3:
            Britain looks worried.

            PANEL 4:
            Sweden: Oh god! That's terrible! You make robots because you're racist!? Come guys! *grabs Britain* We're leaving!
            Britain: I don't want to go that way! China is giving me evil looks!

            PANEL 5
            Only Denmark is left.

            PANEL 6:
            Denmark: Can I have a few of those?
            Japan: If you keep out of my country, sure!
            Robot: Ubermench!
            Sweden (off screen): DENMARK!!!

            Robots!

            I know I'm just asking for trouble by implying that Japan is *GASP!* not perfect *OHMYGODZ!!!* but this was too good to pass up.

            They had a robot theme night on TV and one guy was talking very warmly about Japanese robots and how fantastic they were. The reporter then asked why the Japanese people loved robots so much, and the guy looked very apologetic and sort mumbled "Well, there's a lot of reasons, like they love dolls and everything electronic.....and they prefer robots to immigrants. It's not something people usually talk about, but the Japanese are pretty racist on that point" He looked so uncomfortable while saying it, which just made it even more funny.

            Preferring robots to real humans is such a mad scientist thing to do that I couldn't ignore it.

            Url: https://satwcomic.com/robots [satwcomic.com]

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday November 30 2019, @03:20PM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 30 2019, @03:20PM (#926404) Journal
    For a few years, I drove from California to Yellowstone National Park to visit some family working in the park (how I eventually came to be working there later). I got stopped three times (in Idaho) in the process without tickets each time (asking for registration and proof of insurance each time).

    Once the officer wanted to search my car. For some reason, I was supposed to go along because the officer's lack of knowledge about how much drugs he thought I was carrying in my car should be more important than the mess I'd have to clean up afterward (assuming he's on the level, of course). Fuck that. I politely refused and was on my way a few minutes later.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:43PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 01 2019, @01:43PM (#926706)

      Do you look arabic?
      or wear clothing that indicates you follow Satan?

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