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posted by martyb on Friday December 13 2019, @11:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the what's-wrong-with-my-browser dept.

BleepingComputer recently published an article which says:

Google is now banning the popular Linux browsers named Konqueror, Falkon, and Qutebrowser from logging into Google services because they may not be secure.

[...] In tests conducted by BleepingComputer, we can confirm that we were unable to log in with Konqueror or Falkon on multiple machines. When attempting to do so, we were told to try a different browser as Konqueror or Falkon may not be secure.

[...] Even stranger, some users have reported that they could still login with Falkon [1, 2].

This has led people to offer a variety of theories for why this is happening including it being an A/B test being done by Google, related to the version of QtWebEngine installed, or maybe even an account setting such as 2FA being enabled.

Google does have discriminating tastes, does it not?


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  • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 14 2019, @12:38AM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 14 2019, @12:38AM (#931884)

    Konqueror identifies as Chrome, on Windows. Nyah!

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by barbara hudson on Saturday December 14 2019, @12:40AM (11 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday December 14 2019, @12:40AM (#931885) Journal

    Google doesn't give a shit how your browser self-identifies.

    Same as they hate links/lynx. Anything that makes it harder to track you is verboten. Same as Facebook, etc.

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    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday December 14 2019, @01:46AM (10 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday December 14 2019, @01:46AM (#931904) Journal

      Same as they hate links/lynx.

      Does your iCloud account work?

      I don't understand why people just don't use something else a bit more user friendly.

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      • (Score: 3, Touché) by barbara hudson on Saturday December 14 2019, @02:31AM (9 children)

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday December 14 2019, @02:31AM (#931914) Journal
        Why would I use any web browser for email?
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        • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 14 2019, @02:33PM (8 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 14 2019, @02:33PM (#932043)

          Because the user-side clients all suck, even compared to webmail. Nobody competent is doing interfaces for open-source email software (only people who want to design their own local inbox storage standard), so Gmail is the best it gets for end users.

          • (Score: 2) by bart on Saturday December 14 2019, @04:50PM

            by bart (2844) on Saturday December 14 2019, @04:50PM (#932068)

            Try fastmail its great

          • (Score: 2) by EEMac on Saturday December 14 2019, @05:57PM (3 children)

            by EEMac (6423) on Saturday December 14 2019, @05:57PM (#932090)

            SeaMonkey [seamonkey-project.org] FTW. Discoverable, standards-compliant. It even has a message thread view. The only thing I think it's missing is automatic recognition of URLs.

            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday December 14 2019, @09:34PM

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday December 14 2019, @09:34PM (#932167) Journal

              Yep, switched from Mosaic almost 25 years ago, never looked back...

              I've tried the rest, and came back to the best.. Netscape is still second to none.

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            • (Score: 2) by PinkyGigglebrain on Saturday December 14 2019, @11:47PM

              by PinkyGigglebrain (4458) on Saturday December 14 2019, @11:47PM (#932197)

              Seamonkey is well worth checking out. I've been with if for so long I can't even remember when I switched. I think it was around seamonkey's version 1.4

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 18 2019, @07:15PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 18 2019, @07:15PM (#933860)

              I'm a SeaMonkey user since it was called Mozilla Suite and of course still recommend it whole-heartedly, but:

              1. Google does check User-Agent on multiple sites, even though SM is FF 52's engine, you will get limited functionality on YouTube for example (I wouldn't know about GMail etc., but I'm sure it's the same there). Actually I much prefer the "old" YouTube page, so that's a nice feature, until they tell you you need to change your channel in Creator Studio, which straight up won't let you in because of your UA string ;)

              2. Mozilla themselves really hate "forks" (even though this is the original Mozilla and technically, Firefox is the fork) and they make it their mission to block you from extensions. Some you can get in older versions and install fine (but the search will fail and if you find someone recommending an extension elsewhere and go find it on the portal, it just shows you that extension is incompatible instead of saying "oh, you're on SeaMonkey, sure I have a compatible version, here it is"), others you need to find elsewhere and pull from github.

              SeaMonkey is maintained by a tiny team and while they want to get a better ecosystem around the suite, they can't catch up with Mozilla's speed of breaking things. Of course this is not limited to SeaMonkey - the same is true for FF LTS, Basilisk etc.

              In other words, this is a perfect browser for a true power-user who can google for solutions and likes stuff that doesn't just work out of the box, like myself ;)

          • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday December 14 2019, @06:31PM (1 child)

            by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday December 14 2019, @06:31PM (#932106) Journal

            So why does it have to be open source? Are you going to audit the code? There have been bugs in major open source projects that have been around for a decade in plain sight because nobody can be bothered to examine the source. The "many eyes make all bugs shallow" is a myth, and a large part of that is because people who are writing code for free would rather scratch their own itch than clean up somebody elses mess.

            And who could blame them?

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            • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 14 2019, @07:42PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 14 2019, @07:42PM (#932130)

              ohh shut the fuck up you goddamn whore.

          • (Score: 2) by number11 on Saturday December 14 2019, @07:26PM

            by number11 (1170) on Saturday December 14 2019, @07:26PM (#932123)

            I dunno, if you use Win, Thunderbird works pretty well. Better filtering capability than (web)Gmail, makes checking the headers easy, nowhere as frustrating as web Gmail. (Gmail on Android is even worse, it should be taken out behind the barn and shot, but most Android software is pretty crappy compared to its desktop cousin.)