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posted by martyb on Sunday December 15 2019, @01:32PM   Printer-friendly
from the I'll-think-about-it dept.

A sobering message about the future at AI's biggest party

Blaise Aguera y Arcas praised the revolutionary technique known as deep learning that has seen teams like his get phones to recognize faces and voices. He also lamented the limitations of that technology, which involves designing software called artificial neural networks that can get better at a specific task by experience or seeing labeled examples of correct answers.

"We're kind of like the dog who caught the car," Aguera y Arcas said. Deep learning has rapidly knocked down some longstanding challenges in AI—but doesn't immediately seem well suited to many that remain. Problems that involve reasoning or social intelligence, such as weighing up a potential hire in the way a human would, are still out of reach, he said. "All of the models that we have learned how to train are about passing a test or winning a game with a score [but] so many things that intelligences do aren't covered by that rubric at all," he said.


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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday December 15 2019, @04:55PM (3 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Sunday December 15 2019, @04:55PM (#932412) Homepage
    > they're quite excellent at market prediction. They don't do a perfect job, but they can do better than just about any human

    Only because at the moment humans are driving the market manipulation that is behind the fluctuations, and humans are predictable. When the AIs out-guess the humans, the humans will be phased out, hopefully with a spree of iocaine-induced suicides from the wunch of bankers who become redundant and they realise that they did actually have nothing to contribute to the world after all, and the AIs will suddenly lose the ability to have an edge. And at that point, JPM will bulldozer in and realise that they now have a massively manupulable market again, because every entity playing in it has worked out that it's no longer manipulable, and so are manpulable. Lather rinse repeat. It's an iterative process, but not necessarily convergent.
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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday December 15 2019, @05:46PM (2 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday December 15 2019, @05:46PM (#932422) Journal

    Only because at the moment humans are driving the market manipulation that is behind the fluctuations

    Nah, market manipulators are good at being unpredictable or they stop being market manipulators, one way or another. What you're thinking of is the big whales, banks funds, insurance, etc who do things the same way every time, particularly when they buy large blocks of securities. A program can leach off those guys for years.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Monday December 16 2019, @01:14AM (1 child)

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Monday December 16 2019, @01:14AM (#932587) Homepage
      > Nah

      Very strange way of spelling "Yeah". You've basically repeated what I said.
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      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday December 16 2019, @01:38AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday December 16 2019, @01:38AM (#932606) Journal
        If AI were that good, human market manipulators would already be gone. Stock markets are really ruthless at culling such things. However, I don't buy that humans are that bad and AI that good.