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(Score: 2) by gtomorrow on Tuesday December 31 2019, @07:40PM (8 children)
How long did it take you to cherry-pick those examples? And how often do those incidents happen in one country?
I can turn on CNN anytime of the day to hear about some daily shooting in America, not to mention local news. Usually it's a report on some American "with a history of mental disorder" taking out more than one person (not crimes of passion) and usually with a semi-automatic. This is an exclusively American disease.
We are all bantering semantics about the symptoms while a cure goes undiscussed if not completely ignored.
In any case, Happy New Year, Mr Freeman.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday December 31 2019, @08:04PM (4 children)
Oh, it took me about 30 seconds of duck duck going mass murder knife attacks. No cherry picking needed when searching for that. Try turning on a different channel, then? One less biased / designed to specifically sell you on something.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2) by gtomorrow on Tuesday December 31 2019, @11:14PM (3 children)
Why am I wasting drinking/celebration time on this? Because I love you.
As of late, any examples/metaphors that I've mentioned recently (not just you...please) have unfortunately been interpreted far too literally. When I say "CNN" it's just as an example of 24-hour American news. I could have cited Al Jazeera, BBC, RTL, RaiNews24, France1 etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but my example still holds, especially when watching the Brian Eno-coined "firehose" of American local news.
You look specifically for "mass murder knife attacks" on DDG (my preferred search site, BTW), which immediately raises a red flag and make me laugh contemporaneously. MASS MURDER KNIFE ATTACKS? What, was the perpetrator Barry Allen? Then again, just days ago, there were the machete attacks against a Rabbi and his guests in New York. [cnn.com] But when I think of "mass murder" I think of "In Cold Blood" to "Hotel Rwanda" up to the Shoah and Hiroshima....please, the examples cited are illustrative, not literal...except the last.
In any case, you know as well as I do: your isolated knifings are not ANYWHERE near the same as the DAILY semi-automatic American massacres. Think "The Joker" gunning down moviegoers to Texas churches (to cite merely two 2019 examples)...I insist that we are still bantering semantics regarding the symptoms.
Again, HAPPY NEW YEAR, Mr Freeman. We'll take this up on January 2, 2020 if you wish...you know where to find me. Now, I have prosecco to pop open. CHEERS!
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday January 02 2020, @04:27PM (2 children)
Mass murder firearms attacks and mass murder knife attacks are apples to apples comparisons. So, yeah, I DDG'ed that.
We're middle of the road as far as intentional homicides are concerned per capita: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate [wikipedia.org]
Still about 4.5 times more than the United Kingdom, but not horrendous.
We're #10 in the list of firearm-related death rates according to this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate [wikipedia.org]
This list is much less reliable than the intentional homicides list. Which may also may be fairly inaccurate.
Interestingly enough, though, we are #1 in guns owned per citizen by a Huge Margin. We have more guns per capita than the next three countries on the list combined. We have over 4 times as many guns per capita than the next country on the list.
With the comparatively Huge number of guns compared to every other country, it seems that blaming the guns for the deaths is quite unreasonable. The fact of the matter is that guns are used to kill people and they do that quite well. Perhaps, we should focus on helping the average person and support their freedoms. Even better, focus on the areas with the most gun violence problems and fix the underlying problems. Instead of focusing on trying to reduce the freedoms of all the people.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 5, Touché) by Gaaark on Thursday January 02 2020, @08:41PM (1 child)
Whoa there a second:
in high income countries (ie: developed countries not tearing themselves apart by war and poverty), the US is #1 by a wide margin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate#/media/File:2010_homicide_suicide_rates_high-income_countries.png [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 2) by Freeman on Thursday January 02 2020, @10:46PM
Be that as it may, the statistics can be played against each other to your heart's content.
The USA also has by far the highest GDP, and in fact has more GDP than the next 5 countries on the OECD combined. The USA also leads in GDP per capita when compared to those other 5 countries. While only having more population than the next 3. Sure, we don't have the highest GDP per capita, but we're still #5 on the list, if you sort it by GDP per capita. With a moderately high income inequality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OECD [wikipedia.org]
^-- From the infographic you posted: "Gun-related homicide and suicide rates in high-income OECD countries, 2010, sorted by total gun-related deaths (suicide plus intentional homicide, plus other)[84]"
Perhaps, the biggest difference is that in America, if you break into someone's home, you will likely be shot. Intentional homicide, doesn't mean illegal homicide. Though, I'm quite sure the illegal homicides are high. I still stand by the idea that, if we focused on the actual problem causing the violence, that those homicide numbers would come down.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday January 01 2020, @02:33AM (2 children)
Can't argue your statement about CNN. But, there is the fact that tens of thousands of reporters with an agenda sit on the edges of their seats, waiting for the opportunity to break such a story in the US. If it fits the narrative, it's splashed across TV screens around the world, in minutes.
Not so much knife violence in Europe.
(Score: 2) by jasassin on Tuesday January 14 2020, @03:20AM (1 child)
Not sure where you're getting your information from, or if you're just making it up as you go along. Citation. [gatestoneinstitute.org]
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 14 2020, @03:19PM
I think my point stands. They aren't publicizing the knife violence, in fact, keeping details under wraps as much as possible. Knife wielding brown invaders from the south don't fit the progressive agenda.