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With 2019 almost over, we turn our sights to a new decade with 2020. Soon we will celebrate the new year by partying, eating good food, and watching the Times Square Ball drop on TV. Sadly, Dick Clark is dead, but his legacy lives on through Ryan Seacrest.
Calculate Linux 20 is based on Gentoo 17.1 and comes with several desktop environment choices, such as Cinnamon, KDE, Xfce, MATE, and more. Unfortunately for some users, the operating system is now 64-bit only. Yes, with version 20, the developers have chosen to kill the 32-bit variants. While some people will be upset, it is definitely the correct choice -- 32-bit only processors are very old at this point. You can likely get a better 64-bit machine for a steal at a thrift store these days.
All the Gentoo goodness, precious little of the headaches.
Source: https://betanews.com/2019/12/27/gentoo-calculate-linux-20-twenty/
(Score: 4, Insightful) by barbara hudson on Tuesday December 31 2019, @02:56AM (1 child)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 31 2019, @01:55PM
i disagree. My big question is why an announcement for a linux distribution mention Dick Clark or Ryan Seacrest at all. I was actually interested by the title, but then this braindead introductory statement just turned me off.
By the way, I've nothing against either Dick Clark or Ryan Seacrest or their dropping ball.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 31 2019, @02:59AM (8 children)
Lacks modern features like systemd.
(Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Tuesday December 31 2019, @10:54AM (6 children)
If it's like gentoo then systemd can be installed and switched to. I'm running Gentoo with systemd atm, even though openrc is the default.
(Score: 5, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 31 2019, @12:08PM (5 children)
In related way, you can get a surgeon to cut you open and install an infected appendix.
(Score: 3, Funny) by Bot on Tuesday December 31 2019, @05:53PM (4 children)
>In related way, you can get a surgeon to cut you open and install the creature from the movie Alien.
FTFY, systemd deserves more recognition than a simple infected appendix. The appendix may make you end up in painful death, but systemd makes you wish you did.
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by loonycyborg on Tuesday December 31 2019, @07:09PM (3 children)
Well originally I installed systemd because I'm a neophile and early adopter, but all those systemd haters really annoy me. I'll stick to systemd no matter what now just to spite those jerks and assholes. At least for my use cases it's better than alternatives so that's it's a win-win.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday December 31 2019, @07:35PM (2 children)
Wow, the spirit of the Almighty is upon you.
There is no other way you could early adopt systemd, install it and have the contraption boot every time.
For example, my very first time with systemd was an unbootable laptop. Heck I am still experiencing glitches wherever I keep pulseaudio, which is a fluffy kitten compared to systemd.
Personally I would have used such amount of divine power to do more productive things than booting, like healing the blind or give free energy to the people, but I am in no position to judge the Almighty's ways, to each his mission.
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(Score: 2) by loonycyborg on Tuesday December 31 2019, @07:50PM (1 child)
For me systemd never resulted in unbootable system. While changing /dev names just because a USB flash drive was inserted most definitely did. So I pass root partition with PARTUUID instead of using /dev/sdx now. And the point of this: gentoo requires knowledge to maintain properly, and systemd is most definitely not the most troublesome part of it. Though I heard some other distros(Ubuntu?) tend to package both PA and systemd poorly.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday January 02 2020, @12:19AM
>For me systemd never resulted in unbootable system.
That's not a feature, that's a bug.
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(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday December 31 2019, @06:20PM
Seacrest out!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 31 2019, @03:46AM (6 children)
Hardware gets faster and faster, but the compilation time, for an example, the Linux kernel, gets slower and slower. And the software people keep inventing "brilliant" projects like Scala (the language invented by the same genius who came up with Java generics).
Software wins, just like Uber.
(Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday December 31 2019, @04:18AM
It defaults to precompiled binary packages unless you change the use flags on them. Yep, even the kernel.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Informative) by dwilson on Tuesday December 31 2019, @04:27AM (4 children)
Calling bullshit, at least on that example. I first used Gentoo back in 2005, on a machine that was reasonably decent for the time (I don't recall the specs, but it was damned expensive). Looking back, it seemed like kernel compilation took hours. Now, on my five year old desktop? Under ten minutes.
Hardware is handily winning vs Linux kernel compilation times.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 31 2019, @04:40AM
I'll fess up. I haven't compiled the kernel since I switched from slackware to debian more than two decades ago. Back then, Debian was damn good, not like now with systemd/poetter-nazi-motherfucking-cocksucker-redhat. Redhat got bought out by IBM. Hmm... IBM, remember IBM during WW2? Yeah. Nazis are gonna Nazi.
In conclusion:
Scala is... Strausstrup should be laughing now.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday December 31 2019, @07:44PM (2 children)
Compilation times if you use the proper flags, should have sped up considerably when more cores were matched with SSDs. But that was a speed up that will rarely happen in general.
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(Score: 2) by dwilson on Wednesday January 01 2020, @06:54PM (1 child)
Use flags don't have a lot to do with kernel compilation times. For the rest of the system, absolutely.
Using -pipe and/or mounting /tmp (or portage's working directory, at least) as a ramdisk will stomp an SSD for compile-time speed-up all day long, assuming you've got enough spare memory to pull it off.
My desktop machine is an older system (I put the majority of it together in 2011), but once the mainboard reached it's effective end-of-life, I was able to upgrade the CPU and memory to this mainboard's best-in-slot for a ridiculously low price as the local computer parts store started blowing out old inventory. Mounting /tmp on a ramdisk makes a huge difference for any task that uses it.
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday January 02 2020, @12:47AM
I meant "make -j" for parallelism, and comparing SSDs to hard disks, in fact my /tmp is in RAM, and my /home too in this very moment (frugal install, you can load the whole OS into ram so that's even faster).
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 31 2019, @08:42AM (5 children)
Although that is not the focus of this particular sub-distro.
And yes, Gentoo doesn't require systemd, although you can have it if you want for some strange reason. While Debian has been bickering over whether to support multiple init systems, Gentoo has been doing it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 31 2019, @11:47PM (4 children)
Is the userbase still insufferable? The funroll-loops idiots made it hard to read any gentoo forums. I tried it as the OS, at least 10 years ago (but maybe longer), on a server I was putting together. It took quite a while to compile, but it was running ok. At some point I did one of those major emerge upgrades where you walk away for a day. Unfortunately, the system wouldn't boot, not even into grub. Fortunately it was not a production server and after dicking around with it for a bit, I simply blew it away and installed CentOS. That is what ended up being what was used.
Actually, I think it was about 15 years ago because there was this awesome web site, funroll-loops.org [archive.org] that I found absolutely hilarious because the comments on that site were very similar to what I was getting when I was trying to troubleshoot my system.
I haven't tried the distro since, but I think I might load it up in a virtual machine.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday January 01 2020, @12:58AM (3 children)
Linux in general is just as shitty now as it was 10 years ago. It got really good for a short while in between, then the pink-haired Dyke crowd along with other undercover agitators and Microsoft and Mac loyalists stirring shit and introducing crap code infiltrated all the decent distros. Now installing even a mainstream distro is like installing Linux From Scratch and will more often than not choke during install and function half-ass should the install actually complete. Talk to anybody about multiple-monitor issues and you'll see that things are no different from 10 years ago, even if they eventually figured the Wi-Fi thing out.
The real nails in the GNU/Linux coffin were Linus and RMS b̶e̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶d̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶r̶e̶s̶u̶l̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶b̶l̶a̶c̶k̶m̶a̶i̶l̶ stepping down from their respective roles. We can only expect piles of steaming hot fragmented unusable shit distros until we get a Trumpian dictator in charge of one of them, a dictator who will have no problems locking fifth-columnists like Poettering and Sarah Sharp the fuck out of the repos.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday January 01 2020, @01:14AM (2 children)
Linux is Android, ChromeOS, and Ubuntu. Until Google shifts the first two to Fuchsia.
RMS was irrelevant, and is now dust. Linux Torvalds is on death row. Sword of Damocles.
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(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday January 01 2020, @02:26AM (1 child)
Google's leadership will soon be tried for sedition. Some elements of our government might still be taking their money, but the common-man reading the leaks won't be.
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday January 02 2020, @12:50AM
Either that, or google will try the people for sedition.
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