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Journal by aristarchus

Maybe we think a president is worth something. But anything is only worth what you can get for it on the market. I remember watching some "Olympus has Fallen" or other really bad movie, where the North Koreans held the POTUS hostage, and through out the movie I kept shouting, "Kill the bastard! We have 300 Million more of them!" If I was an American. But now there is a rather unique situation, where Americans could impeach, remove, and turn over the Donald, and recover some of the taxes he owes. Yes, the Iranians would probably kill him, but given his mental, and moral, state, that is no great injustice.

On the side, how much could we get for John Bolton, on the open market? Rumsfeld? Ouww, I bet Kissinger would go for a pretty penny! And Wolfowitz and his traitor wife. Oh, you didn't know about that one? Khallow, unfortunately, would sell for very little. Poor khallow.

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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 06 2020, @03:20PM (51 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 06 2020, @03:20PM (#940205) Homepage Journal

    Maybe we think a president is worth something. But anything is only worth what you can get for it on the market.

    True enough. How well is your wit selling?

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  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 06 2020, @04:22PM (50 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 06 2020, @04:22PM (#940231) Homepage Journal

    Not well, apparently. That's as close to a call for assassination as I've seen. Progressives really seem to want to start that civil war they claim not to want.

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    Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @04:32PM (24 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @04:32PM (#940239)

      You mean punish criminal traitors, but I see you're still defending trump. Paaaathetic!

      I would think as a vet you'd be done with his shit by now, but apparently they surgically removed your spine.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday January 06 2020, @05:58PM (3 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 06 2020, @05:58PM (#940283) Journal
        Well, you're not going to get any traction, if you canonize the guy, right?
        • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @06:25PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @06:25PM (#940287)

          Conservative logic 101: liberals hste it? I love it!!

          At least that explains all criminals and pedos in the GOP.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @10:21PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @10:21PM (#940394)

            You've got it backwards. Liberal coomers love pedophilia. Conservatard crusaders want to hang pedos.

            • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @10:44PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @10:44PM (#940408)

              So you mixed up "lynch" and "elect"? Hmm, weird dictionary you gots there.

              Ok, so hyperbole aside the sad fact is conservatives are brainwashed by Fox and think every negative thing said about "their guys" is a liberal plot of disinformation by jewish media overlords.

              So some of you get a small token of sympathy and understanding, but the reality is you support pedos, rapists, and war criminals. Facts are facts bub, keep ignoring at all our peril.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 06 2020, @10:05PM (19 children)

        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 06 2020, @10:05PM (#940385) Homepage Journal

        Why would you think a vet wouldn't support the blowing the fuck up of someone who'd been organizing attacks on Americans? I mean that's kind of the job description.

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        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @10:37PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @10:37PM (#940401)

          Lawl, still you morons don't see anything wrong supporting trump and now are justifying war crimes. The one good thing about Trump is he has ripped the blinders off so we can see you sociopaths for what you are.

          At this point being Republican = programmed sociopath

          You apparently have zero moral capability aside from what Fox defines for you. #SAD

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 06 2020, @10:52PM (1 child)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 06 2020, @10:52PM (#940412) Homepage Journal

            Not a Trump supporter, not a Republican, not even a conservative, and don't watch Fox. Any other strawman assumptions you'd like to be wrong as hell about?

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            My rights don't end where your fear begins.
            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @01:38AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @01:38AM (#940464)

              You say the same thing over and over, but defending Trump's every action means you're either a liar or beyond self-deluded.

              Anything you'd like to get off your chest? Maybe you are just another fascist who loves fascist people even when you think they are stupid?

              PS: libertarian is just republican lite, as you prove repeatedly by your SN posts

        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 06 2020, @10:38PM (15 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday January 06 2020, @10:38PM (#940403) Journal

          These Americans that were attacked, what were they doing?

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          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 06 2020, @10:55PM (14 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 06 2020, @10:55PM (#940413) Homepage Journal

            You mean like the ones chilling in the embassy? Playing xbox for all I know. The why does not matter though. No, seriously, it does not matter. You don't get to bring violence to me and mine no matter how wrong you think we are without there being consequences.

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            My rights don't end where your fear begins.
            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 06 2020, @11:15PM (13 children)

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday January 06 2020, @11:15PM (#940418) Journal

              You don't get to bring violence to me and mine no matter how wrong you think we are without there being consequences.

              Well, as long as you see it as a two way street, we're all good... You know, it being useless to ponder who drew first blood, and on whose territory and all that, let the shooting commence to begin!

              *Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again* - That is still the rule, right?

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              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
              • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 06 2020, @11:25PM (12 children)

                by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 06 2020, @11:25PM (#940422) Homepage Journal

                Well, as long as you see it as a two way street, we're all good...

                Then we're all good.

                *Trespassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again* - That is still the rule, right?

                Well it's certainly my rule...

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                My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 06 2020, @11:31PM (11 children)

                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday January 06 2020, @11:31PM (#940425) Journal

                  Then I have to assume you believe it's ok for people over there to protect themselves against trespassers also, no matter who they are or where they are from. So, why was ok to kill this guy again?

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                  La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday January 06 2020, @11:41PM (10 children)

                    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday January 06 2020, @11:41PM (#940426) Homepage Journal

                    One does not negate the other.

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                    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 06 2020, @11:53PM (9 children)

                      by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday January 06 2020, @11:53PM (#940430) Journal

                      No, I'm asking what he did to justify the assassination.

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                      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday January 07 2020, @12:38AM (2 children)

                        by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday January 07 2020, @12:38AM (#940439) Homepage Journal

                        Apparently he was over there organizing what we'd call "militia groups" over here to preform attacks on American interests, with a hand in the embassy attack as well.

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                        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
                        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 07 2020, @12:44AM (1 child)

                          by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 07 2020, @12:44AM (#940441) Journal

                          American "interests", in the Middle East. I guess they must prevail over all else, huh? The rights of they and theirs be damned. Not such a two way street after all.

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                          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @01:40AM

                            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @01:40AM (#940465)

                            Such is arguing with fascists who don't have the guts to admit what they are. Carrion eater just wants the grubs from all the dead corpses of WW3.

                      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:13AM (5 children)

                        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:13AM (#940484) Journal
                        You already said trespassing was good enough reason. He was killed in Baghdad after all.
                        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:17AM (4 children)

                          by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:17AM (#940489) Journal

                          What, he didn't have papers? Couldn't they just make him wait in Mexico?

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                          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday January 07 2020, @05:13AM (3 children)

                            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 07 2020, @05:13AM (#940532) Journal

                            What, he didn't have papers?

                            Apparently, he was told [reuters.com] to never come back and he came back. Classic trespassing scenario right there.

                            United Nations sanctions monitors have said photographs taken inside Iraq appear to confirm that the head of Iran’s elite military Quds Force, one of Iran’s most powerful people, has been in the country in violation of a U.N. travel ban.

                            Qassem Soleimani, chief of the force which is an overseas arm of the Revolutionary Guards, has been subject to an international travel ban and asset freeze by the U.N. Security Council since 2007.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @04:52PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @04:52PM (#940254)

      Did you already forget about the popularity of lynched obama shirts?

      Of course you did, cause racism was solved right? Hypocrisy, must be Monday. Or any other day of the week.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday January 06 2020, @06:29PM (3 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday January 06 2020, @06:29PM (#940289) Journal

        Or the fact they were defending the assassination of that Iranian general the other day...

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @07:31PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @07:31PM (#940327)

          I mean if we're supporting the execution of terrorists.....

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @07:32PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @07:32PM (#940328)

          Or the fact they were defending the assassination of that Iranian general the other day...

          Must have missed that, the only one I heard about was the POS enemy combatant directly responsible for the IEDs that murdered and maimed thousands of US and British forces getting a long overdue response.

          • (Score: 2, Redundant) by fustakrakich on Monday January 06 2020, @08:12PM

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday January 06 2020, @08:12PM (#940343) Journal

            the only one I heard about

            Yeah? Where'd ya hear about that? You people still believing tabloid gossip? Good old yellow journalism is alive and well...

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            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday January 06 2020, @08:49PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday January 06 2020, @08:49PM (#940362) Journal

        Seems like they've forgotten a lot of things!

        Drones are bad.
        War with Iran is bad.
        Deficits are bad.
        Gov't picking winners and losers is bad.

        Boy, it's almost like they haven't been completely honest with us!

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Monday January 06 2020, @07:27PM (16 children)

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday January 06 2020, @07:27PM (#940321) Journal

      That's as close to a call for assassination as I've seen.

      Other than the President ordering it to happen to Soleimani, you mean....

      We probably shouldn't assassinate people if we don't want our people assassinated.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @07:45PM (15 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @07:45PM (#940334)

        Did Iran declare war on the US or had Soleimani been behind the "assassination" of our troops for over 15 years?

        • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday January 06 2020, @08:47PM (14 children)

          by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday January 06 2020, @08:47PM (#940360) Journal

          A person's terribleness and how smart it is to kill them are two separate questions.

          But hey, help us march into yet another disaster of a war in the middle east. I'm sure it'll go just as well as Afghanistan and Iraq did!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @08:54PM (13 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 06 2020, @08:54PM (#940364)

            He should have been taken out in 2003.

            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday January 06 2020, @10:22PM (12 children)

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday January 06 2020, @10:22PM (#940397) Journal

              Bah, they should've taken out his parents in 1953. Then there would be peace in the Middle East, right?

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              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @01:31AM (11 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @01:31AM (#940461)

                You think the theocratic Iranian regime is a stabilizing influence on the Middle East or that life for Iranians has improved since 1979?

                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 07 2020, @01:50AM (10 children)

                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 07 2020, @01:50AM (#940471) Journal

                  Please, save your breath [arizona.edu]. The Americans preferred that over the Russians being invited in, following the same example as Afghanistan.

                  "What is more important in world history? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some agitated Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?"

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                  La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:16AM (9 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:16AM (#940487)

                    They thought the threat was containable and Islam comparable to Christianity.

                    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:21AM (8 children)

                      by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:21AM (#940491) Journal

                      You're saying they aren't? And really, you think it's about religion?

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                      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:43AM (7 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @02:43AM (#940500)

                        No, I'm saying they are containable and should actively be contained. Islamist terrorists think it's about religion and they're willing to die for it, Iran's 2 minute hate is the "death to America" chant is it not?

                        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 07 2020, @05:41AM (6 children)

                          by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 07 2020, @05:41AM (#940540) Journal

                          Islamist terrorists think it's about religion and they're willing to die for it

                          That's bullshit. They do it for almost two thousand dollars a month [syriahr.com]. You really gotta stop believing the bigoted gossipy nonsense. They are normal people only in it for the money.

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                          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @06:12PM (4 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 07 2020, @06:12PM (#940692)

                            They are normal people only in it for the money.

                            Normal people don't join death cults and blow themselves up.

                            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday January 07 2020, @06:24PM (3 children)

                              by fustakrakich (6150) on Tuesday January 07 2020, @06:24PM (#940696) Journal

                              That would imply that normal people don't invade others' territory for profit, or that their military is not also a death cult.. They are a very marketable asset, and business is good. Go bark up another tree.

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                              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 08 2020, @03:20PM (2 children)

                                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 08 2020, @03:20PM (#941060)

                                Why bark up another tree when I can piss all over yours?

                                Mercenaries are useless, disunited, unfaithful
                                They have nothing more to keep them in a battle
                                Other than a meager wage
                                Which is just about enough to make them wanna kill for you
                                But never enough to make them wanna die for ya

                                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Wednesday January 08 2020, @05:47PM (1 child)

                                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Wednesday January 08 2020, @05:47PM (#941131) Journal

                                  To them a thousand bucks a month isn't meager

                                  But never enough to make them wanna die for ya

                                  Those people are depressed and pissed, not religious. And, believe it or not, some people do sacrifice themselves to protect their families. That's damn near biological instinct.

                                  And you are welcome to pee all you want. That's what trees are for. Your religious angle is bullshit, if not, then it's working on you as effectively as on any of your Moslems there. It is effective propaganda, but people still want to be paid for their service. The terrorists aren't dummies, they jump to whoever pays the most, just like techies in California. If you want to score by body count, The Christians are winning. Be happy. Build yourself a bomb shelter if you need something to do.

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                                  La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 09 2020, @08:30PM

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 09 2020, @08:30PM (#941587)

                                    Ok boomer [youtube.com]

                          • (Score: 1, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 10 2020, @07:23PM

                            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 10 2020, @07:23PM (#941993) Homepage Journal

                            Imagine. You are a teacher. There are no limits on your authoritarian urges. It is your duty to indoctrinate children into a life of submission. You will bend those children to your will, or kill them in the effort. But, you don't really need to kill one very often, because you have about 1300 years of such conditioning to back up your authority. An ocassional dead student just serves as a needed example, anyway. It is your god-given DUTY to condition these children into submission, to serve the needs of Allah, or Allah's mortal spokespersons.

                            Islam. Submit. Islam MEANS submit.

                            Yeah, regular people, just like you and me, except, they've been brainwashed by experts.

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                            Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 10 2020, @08:14AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 10 2020, @08:14AM (#941806)

      Not well, apparently. That's as close to a call for assassination as I've seen.

      So, memory going, eh, RunawayReallyFuckingOld? Do you not recall certain Cariboo Barbies calling for "2nd Amendment solutions"? If you lie down with traitorous Republicans, do not be surprised when the Goose is the Gander, and you find yourself on the wrong end of a firestick. Stupid treasonous fuck. And Racist.

      • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Friday January 10 2020, @08:12PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 10 2020, @08:12PM (#942016) Homepage Journal

        Uhhhh, Trump isn't on the anti-2A bandwagon. He's not targeted by ANY pro-2A groups. Some state officials are anti-2A, and they are legitimate assassination targets. Very legitimate.

        Let us understand - the second amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting, or simple self defense, or physical training, or entertainment, or any of the things that anti-2A people want to bring into the discussion. The second amendment is all about citizens taking out the garbage on capitol hills around the nation. In the US we have the right to revolt, and we have the right to use the tools necessary to carry out, and enforce said revolts.

        This lady says it perfectly, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTO-y-B2YM [youtube.com]

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        Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.