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posted by janrinok on Tuesday January 14 2020, @05:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the #include⠀<stdio.h> dept.

The case Google v. Oracle America, previously named Oracle America, Inc. v. Google, Inc., is being heard by the US Supreme Court. At the center of the case is whether programmers require permission to use an application programming interface (API). The outcome will determine the extent to which APIs can or should be copyrighted. If it turns out that copyright can be used to lock competitors out of using any given API, then there are severe repercussions for software development, as all programs these days rely heavily on pre-existing libararies which are then accessed via APIs.

Google: The case for open innovation:

The Court will review whether copyright should extend to nuts-and-bolts software interfaces, and if so, whether it can be fair to use those interfaces to create new technologies, as the jury in this case found. Software interfaces are the access points that allow computer programs to connect to each other, like plugs and sockets. Imagine a world in which every time you went to a different building, you needed a different plug to fit the proprietary socket, and no one was allowed to create adapters.

This case will make a difference for everyone who touches technology—from startups to major tech platforms, software developers to product manufacturers, businesses to consumers—and we're pleased that many leading representatives of those groups will be filing their own briefs to support our position.

Mozilla: Competition and Innovation in Software Development Depend on a Supreme Court Reversal in Google v. Oracle:

At bottom in the case is the issue of whether copyright law bars the commonplace practice of software reimplementation, "[t]he process of writing new software to perform certain functions of a legacy product." (Google brief p.7) Here, Google had repurposed certain functional elements of Java SE (less that 0.5% of Java SE overall, according to Google's brief, p. 8) in its Android operating system for the sake of interoperability—enabling Java apps to work with Android and Android apps to work with Java, and enabling Java developers to build apps for both platforms without needing to learn the new conventions and structure of an entirely new platform.

Devclass: Google says nature of APIs under threat as Oracle case heads to US Supreme Court:

The case – ten years in making – centres on Oracle's claims that its Java patents and copyrights were infringed by Google when the search giant created its Android mobile operating system. An initial ruling in Google's favour was overturned on appeal, and the case is finally due to land in the Supreme Court this year. Google filed its opening brief for the justices this week.

When was the last time, outside of school, when you yourself have written a program entirely from scratch and not used even a single set of application programming interfaces? Yeah. Thought so.


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  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by sfm on Tuesday January 14 2020, @05:55PM (11 children)

    by sfm (675) on Tuesday January 14 2020, @05:55PM (#943156)

    Imagine how this could affect programs like "WINE"
    (Windows emulation under linux)

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by BsAtHome on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:01PM (4 children)

    by BsAtHome (889) on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:01PM (#943160)

    Illegal in the USA and perfectly fine everywhere else. Just like about any and all software ever written. All software stands on the shoulders of those before.

    • (Score: 5, Touché) by DannyB on Tuesday January 14 2020, @07:04PM (2 children)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 14 2020, @07:04PM (#943206) Journal

      One of these days the Chinese are going to turn our own stupid IP laws against us in our own courts.

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      • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Tuesday January 14 2020, @10:16PM (1 child)

        by MostCynical (2589) on Tuesday January 14 2020, @10:16PM (#943314) Journal

        why? They can just buy the place [marketwatch.com]

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        • (Score: 4, Touché) by DannyB on Tuesday January 14 2020, @10:45PM

          by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 14 2020, @10:45PM (#943328) Journal

          Doing what I suggest first might lower the purchase price.

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    • (Score: 2) by dry on Wednesday January 15 2020, @09:29PM

      by dry (223) on Wednesday January 15 2020, @09:29PM (#943794) Journal

      There will be more trade agreements like the recent CUSMA that will include IP.

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:48PM (2 children)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:48PM (#943189) Journal

    Someone once told me that wine is not an emulator.

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:50PM

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:50PM (#943191) Journal

      It's not an instruction set emulator, as in a virtual machine.

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    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:58PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:58PM (#943199)

      That was "Legal Suit Larry" and it was spelled "whine".

  • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:50PM (1 child)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 14 2020, @06:50PM (#943190) Journal

    But what about Windows Subsystem for Linux? It is just the reverse.

    I remember when WINE was able to run under Windows Subsystem for Linux for the first time. (And I got a front page article posted on SN about this important new way to run EXEs on Windows OS.)

    Oh, wait. But now . . . Windows Subsystem for Linux uses a real Linux kernel in a VM or something like that. No longer an API layer upon the Windows kernel.

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  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday January 14 2020, @08:15PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday January 14 2020, @08:15PM (#943234)

    "WINE" (Windows emulation under linux)

    You *do* know that "Wine" literally stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator", right?

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