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Conspicuous Conservation, the ostentatious display of objects that mark a person as eco-friendly, has become popular over the recent decade, with example of wealthy people making a point of being seen driving a Prius, putting solar panes in silly places and even wearing shoes "suggesting" you worked on the BP oil spill cleanup.
On the opposite side of the coin we are starting to see some rather deplorable examples of Conspicuous Pollution, the most flagrant of which is called "Rollin Coal".
These kids, (they are almost always 20 something rural guys) will spend anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 modifying their pickups for the sole purpose of belching huge clouds of black exhaust; adding smoke stacks and smoke switches (which either trick the engine into thinking it needs more fuel, or dump diesel fuel directly into the exhaust manifold).
This is not just a handful of guys. Elizabeth Kulze posted an article with links to “an entire subculture” on Facebook, Tumblr, and Instagram. “It’s just fun,” one coal roller says. “Just driving and blowing smoke and having a good time.”
(Score: 1) by StarryEyed on Monday August 25 2014, @12:38AM
Nothing says classy like Truck Balls and belching clouds of black smoke!
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @01:25AM
Have a reporting mechanism that Joe Average can use.
California has a limp version of this. [google.com]
A cop can impound a vehicle on the spot.
Once impounded, inspect the vehicles for illegal modifications.
Fine the living shit out of the owner for any violations.
Have a mechanic's bay within the impound lot where the owner can hire in a mobile mechanic to come and remove the modifications.
Require that the vehicle pass all regulations before it can be released.
The behavior problem goes away quickly when access to the violating vehicle is removed and the costs start mounting up.
-- gewg_
(Score: 2) by zafiro17 on Monday August 25 2014, @11:29AM
Not sure why this makes a tech news site, but hey, there's still some more work to do on the Soylent news queue. gewg above me has got it right - there's no reason for this to happen, and wouldn't happen in a place where the law is something to be feared. There's no reason respectful citizens should have to put up with this shit. If the vehicle is violating code, impound that shit and make it expensive to get back. You had the money to install this bullshit, you should have the money to uninstall it and pay a fine that goes to clean up.
Yet another reason why people in dictatorships behave differently. Dictators don't have to put up with bullshit. And they don't [dictatorshandbook.net].
Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis - Jack Handey
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @12:43AM
This class of people are losers and they KNOW it.
*
They desperately want attention and they don't really care how
they get that attention. Thus, their cretinism can manifest itself
in the form of loud cars and trucks, 4WD vehicles which have enormous
tires, or diesels which over fuel to such an extent that the exhaust belches
great clouds of black smoke, as described in the summary.
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We used to have huge wars which would rid the earth of large numbers of
this human waste. That doesn't seem to be an option any more. So probably
a pandemic of something like Ebola in which drugs are withheld from vast portions
of the underclasses will be necessary at some point. Weak-minded people will be horrified
at what I have written here, but realists will understand the human race needs to be cleaned
up from time to time, and the cleaning is overdue.
/
/
/
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @12:52AM
............******************************************************!!!!!
YEAH SMOKE IT LOOSER!!!!!
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @12:55PM
I prefer to smoke it tighter.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday August 25 2014, @01:05AM
Whites are the cause of all the world's problems and all, but all races can be equally obnoxious. Around here Mexicans and Asians install fart-pipes on their cars and rev their engines constantly for no good reason. Blacks like to bump bass-heavy music with their car stereos, often without properly Dynamatting their trunks, so not only does the bass bump but their entire car rattles.
And speaking of Conspicuous Conservation, the Prius was mentioned specifically. Priuses, like BMWs and Audis, are one of those cars that scream, "My driver is a douchebag!" Only the most obnoxious stereotypes of Whites, not the White Trash but the hypocrite phoney-altrust Yuppies, drive Priuses.
All of which is every bit as sad as somebody running down the street screaming, "Hey, look at me! Look at me! Look how obnoxious I am!" That's what posting on Soylent News is for.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @01:26AM
Wait a minute, I'm white and enjoy cooking my woofers! I have a sony test disc that has a "woofer cooker" track. It'll knock your fillings loose, and works better than WD-40 for frozen bolts.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @01:34AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Saa5lF0cY [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @02:47PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw [youtube.com]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by cafebabe on Monday August 25 2014, @01:37AM
There are some real engineering challenges when making a car into a 15kW mobile disco. And if it doesn't reproduce sound faithfully, it shows that you understand none of them.
I don't understand this "premium car" privilege thing. You may have paid 50% more for your car. You may pay 50% more for a service. That doesn't mean you get 50% priority on the road. It means your dents are going to cost 50% more than mine.
We love you because you tell it like it is.
Anyhow, enough of that. Look at me! Look at me!
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday August 25 2014, @02:19AM
Speak for yourself. I respect him for his "lateral thinking" (and, maybe, his declared goal of a life fuelled by renewable liquids), but don't confuse this with love and don't confuse "unorthodox PoVs" with "like it is".
Btw: I don't love you either; cafe or no cafe, you are ugly, babe!
(ducks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Interesting) by cafebabe on Monday August 25 2014, @07:09AM
We like him to different degrees and for different reasons but there is some thought provoking truth in dissenting opinion and I'm glad that it is shared.
Regarding beauty, consider it a public service that a geek forum doesn't allow users to upload profile pictures.
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @10:42AM
There is dissenting opinion and then there is outright assholery.
The later drowns out the former for anyone who prefers not to dive headfirst into the written equivalent of goatsecx.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @02:20AM
I don't understand this "premium car" privilege thing. You may have paid 50% more for your car. You may pay 50% more for a service. That doesn't mean you get 50% priority on the road. It means your dents are going to cost 50% more than mine.
You appear to be having a discussion that no one else here is having.
(Score: 1, Troll) by cafebabe on Monday August 25 2014, @04:47AM
I thought people with fancy cars driving like idiots was entirely on topic. In the case of premium car owners, I encounter unwarranted entitlement, like they think they bought a premium ticket at a theme park. I'm not alone in this thinking. Ignoring the fanboys and backronyms, a definition on the UrbanDictionary from Mon 12 Jul 2010 defines BMW as:-
Although the example usage on the UrbanDictionary typical diverges from topic, particularly vitriolic examples come from the same person's experience:-
The general tone and language of this definition is compatible with the demeanor of Ethanol-fueled [soylentnews.org]. In particular [soylentnews.org]:-
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @05:54AM
> I thought people with fancy cars driving like idiots was entirely on topic.
Since it is only in your own head that "fancy car" == "driving like an idiot" no, it was not on topic.
You are just masturbating in public.
It obviously feels good for you, and maybe even a couple of onlookers are turned on seeing you do it.
But most people are just repulsed.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @02:10PM
Being an owner of a BMW I can safely tell you some of what you say is true. It however is not the BMW that does it. I see this happen many times to people who had little to no money suddenly get it. They equate wealth with that they are better. What you are describing is an entitlement attitude. Having a BMW just means you have the money to buy one. The being a dick was already there you just didnt have the money to do it. I have seen soccer moms loose their cool over a hamburger that had onions on it and their snowflake 'cant have onions'. The funniest one I saw was some lady who screamed out 'dont you know who my husband IS'.
HOWEVER, my previous car was a chevy. Once I got the BMW I noticed something *very* odd. Everyone around me drove much more aggressively. As in 'are you aiming for my car or something?' I am constantly challenged. People constantly ride my ass. People constantly cut me off. People get to the light and rev their engine like they want to prove that some 70s 440 charger can smoke the tires off a BMW. *every day* *multiple time a day* When I rent other cars this attitude 'goes away'.
Priuses, like BMWs and Audis, are one of those cars that scream, "My driver is a douchebag!"
You know what makes for a good up and coming 'douchbag'. Someone who makes sweeping generalizations about everyone to make themselves feel superior to someone else.
My BMW took me 10 years to buy and I have had it for 10. It really is a better car for day to day use. I have drove just about every other kind of car out there. Most cars made in the US are cheaply made (3 chevys, 4 fords experience talking here, 2 toyotas). They put this crazy awesome engine with a decent drivetrain then shelack a layer of plastic on it that breaks in 3-4 years (usually just out of warranty).
Unfortunately it costs a fortune. On top of that I have to deal with dickheads like you who have something to prove. Unfortunately that 'something to prove' is jealousy. I earned my car. Please keep your sweeping generalizations to yourself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @04:03PM
> Everyone around me drove much more aggressively.
I've been considering purchasing a low-miles used BMW (a 2010 335D) and if I do, plan is to debadge it so there are no visible logos and then swap out the famous "kidney grill" for one that is matte black except for a small piece of chrome that goes around both kidneys, the effect being to make it not obviously a BMW. I might even put a honda or volkswagon badge on it just to help preserve the illusion. When you get down to it, sedans of all brands are pretty generic. Debadging won't fool a fan, but those guys are unlikely to have a grudge at BMW drivers. For everyone else, it ought to blend into the background as just another unremarkable 4-door car.
(Score: 2) by M. Baranczak on Monday August 25 2014, @07:13PM
The nice thing about all the rich assholes buying new BMWs: they always have to have the latest shiny bling bling, so they get rid of their cars pretty quickly. Which means that you can get a used one pretty cheap. And these cars are actually really well made, so you can keep them running for a long time.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @07:55PM
Unfortunately BMWs have very high resale values. So cheap used ones are few and far between.
Cheaper than new, definitely but the prices are inflated by brand loyalty.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @01:00AM
Are these HP mods or just smoke tricks? I remember the 1980's oldsmobiles with shitty diesel engines that used to crack the blocks/heads, but one guy modded his olds diesel to the point of making it compete with gas engines. It didn't blow out a bunch of soot, but could do burn-outs and smoke the tires.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Darth Turbogeek on Monday August 25 2014, @01:39AM
IF you are pushing 500Kw+ and a boatload of torque, yes it could be for performance and even then, the combustion should be good enough in that your only sooting when you are at huge boost AND full throttle levels. But the fact is, these assholes are not doing it for engine performance.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @01:41AM
Taking an engine originally designed for 9:1 compression and trying to get it to do 22:1 was a trick GM didn't pull off successfully.
Points to anyone who can name an '80s car that didn't suck.
-- gewg_
(Score: 2) by carguy on Monday August 25 2014, @02:10AM
Points to anyone who can name an '80s car that didn't suck.
Can you give points after you've already commented as AC? Not sure how that part of the mod system works.
Anyway, my 1986 Chevy Sprint (made by Suzuki, 1 liter 3 cylinder) was a lot of fun. In this case fun came from being able to drive flat out much of the time -- can't do that with a typically overpowered car. It also had a lovely manual rack & pinion steering system, precision and feedback that haven't been matched by any power assisted steering that I've tried.
Those were the days of the national 55 mph limit, so the Sprint was plenty fast for the freeways. I even got a "waste of a resource" ticket for 65 mph from a Nevada state trooper -- a $2.00 "not a speeding ticket" -- while getting ~40 miles/gallon. That was Nevada's way of protesting the national speed limit.
(Score: 1) by Darth Turbogeek on Monday August 25 2014, @03:03AM
Oh dear LORD, are you venerating THAT shitbox? You could of at least have tried for the GTi version, which was a great little thing that would regularly beat up much bigger and powerful cars around racetracks. The 1 litre versions were bloody awful
If you want to point to great 80's cars, well Group B was around so you have a range of maniac creations to point at (Audi Quattro, Lancia Delta S4 and 037, Puegot 205 Ti, Porsche 959, Ferrari 288 or F40). The Group A cars were late 80's and those had some now quite rightly venerated examples - the first Subaru Liberty RS, Mitsubitsi Galant VR4, the first of the Toyota GT4's the Lancia Delta Turbos - then there is the tarmac based cars like the Escort Cosworths, the Group A Commodores and just at the end of the 80's, the car no one would deny pretty much is one the truly great cars of all time - the R32 Skyline GTR.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by carguy on Monday August 25 2014, @04:09AM
THAT shitbox?...
"You make your own action"[*]
Once I got past teenage hormones, I figured out that it is much more fun driving flat out (in a slow car) than in a powerful car at a fraction of its potential. It's not about the absolute limits of the car (don't believe the car magazine editors), it's about how much of the limits you can explore every day, on every corner in the subdivision or industrial park. Besides, the Sprint controls were really sensitive and lovely, especially the steering -- only matched in precision by the manual steering version of the NSX (Zanardi edition) and a couple of lightweight Lotus' (Loti?) with manual racks. No on-center dead zone (torsion bar windup) and no force/velocity limits that are part of every hydraulic assisted steering rack. If you've never paid attention while steering through a good (low backlash, low friction) manual rack, you don't know what you are missing.
Going back some decades, original VW Beetles and Fiat 500s were fun for the same reasons.
I've driven some of the cars you mention and they are completely frustrating to drive on the street for more than a few minutes (unless you are prepared to lose your license...aka the end of fun). The limits are much too high for mixing with "civilian" traffic. On a track is another thing all together, but how often do you get to do that?
[*]
FORD: Well, let’s get out and see. I’m hungry for a little action.
ARTHUR: In a cave?
EDDIE: On Brontitall? [Sharp intake of breath]
FORD: Yeah! In a cave, wherever! You make your own action.
ZAPHOD: Sling open the hatch computer.
EDDIE: Er, Okay.
(Score: 1) by Darth Turbogeek on Monday August 25 2014, @04:27AM
I'm actually quite familiar with the Swifts. I raced one as well as owning the the next generation 1.3l. Believe me, you aint going to convince me anything less than the GTi was contemptible rubbish (The steering is lovely? Ummm... no). Whats the use in a low limits car if it's shit? Plus sorry but power steering has looooong surprassed generic buzzbox in steering feel. A early Mini (also something I've owned) mocks a Suzuki for steering anyday.
Oh and I would drive a few of those other cars pretty much weekly at a track. I actually owned a couple too. Maybe a brutally fast car that rearranges your brain on the limit cant be used on the road but I tell ya what, I look at my present truly absurdly fast V8 powered monster and I can enjoy it soooo much just cruising.
(Score: 2) by evilviper on Monday August 25 2014, @06:13AM
I will admit... An econobox that's light weight, low to the ground, and has minimal soundproofing, sure makes you FEEL like you're driving twice as fast.
Beyond that... I suppose some people just always like having a challenge. And there's little sadder than a nice, shiny, expensive new sports car, just stuck in bumper-to-bumper traffic.
Hydrogen cyanide is a delicious and necessary part of the human diet.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @04:13AM
If that car made you happy, you get the points.
Of course, I didn't mean mod points.
When I think of '80s cars, I think *extremely ugly*.
For ~20 years, the under-hood tubing thing on cars was a plumber's nightmare.
OTOH, under the hood, my '70 Boss 302[1] was as simple as they come.
[1] I had the Can-Am suspension and the close-ratio 4-speed but the Windsor block+Cleveland heads setup had been pulled before I got the car.
I still had a cop ask "What have you got in that thing?"
(A 302 Windsor 4V.)
-- gewg_
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @02:04PM
>> Of course, I didn't mean mod points.
Looks like bait and switch to me...
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Monday August 25 2014, @04:19AM
Early 80's Subaru's were pretty good.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Informative) by computersareevil on Monday August 25 2014, @04:47PM
This myth just won't die.
GM DID NOT MAKE THE OLDS DIESEL FROM A GAS ENGINE BLOCK!
For fuck's sake, look it up!
The problem was SHITTY FUEL, NO WATER SEPARATOR, and STUPID MECHANICS who didn't understand torque-to-yield head bolts. NOT THE ENGINE!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @07:19PM
Just to name two off the top of my head that didn't suck.
Toyota AE86
Merkur XR4TI
(Score: 2) by M. Baranczak on Monday August 25 2014, @06:06AM
This is from the article:
In order to have an edge, drivers started modifying their trucks to dump excessive fuel into the motor, which gave them more horsepower, torque, speed and a better chance of winning.
And it makes no sense. If you have the correct air/fuel ratio, then all the fuel and all the oxygen is getting consumed. The amount of oxygen limits the amount of fuel you can burn. If you're running rich (excess fuel) you don't get more power, you just get incompletely-burned fuel (black smoke). This is elementary stuff.
More likely explanation of how this stupid trend started: some dumb-ass had a shitty truck that was blowing black smoke, and all his dumb-ass buddies thought it looked awesome.
(Score: 2) by frojack on Monday August 25 2014, @05:58PM
One of the simplest fixes is to make the oxygen sensor always show an excess of oxygen. (Literately a couple bucks to install). You'll continue get most of the horsepower your motor was capable of, but not much more unless you have a turbocharger. You still need to bypass the factory exhaust system with a temporary (or permanent) route to your big stacks because that much smoke will mess up your exhaust system very quickly.
More complex, and less damaging to the engine is exhaust manifold injection, mixed with a small quantity of air, and an exhaust system bypass valve. This version does not hurt horsepower output.
No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @08:48PM
Fundamentally, the oxygen sensors are variable resistors.
A switch, some wire, and a resistor and you can spoof the reading.
.
exhaust manifold injection
Go back 50 years and guys were doing something similar.
Instead of smoke, they wanted flames out the back.
Mount another ignition coil near the rear and put a spark plug in the tailpipe.
Afterburners!
-- gewg_
(Score: 2) by EvilJim on Wednesday September 17 2014, @05:38AM
some of my old mates when we were teens would inject oil into their carbies for a sudden cloud for tailgaters, same sorta thing but only used in defence instead of offence
(Score: 4, Funny) by Snotnose on Monday August 25 2014, @05:00AM
I gots me a F-150 deesall with the nekked wemmen mudflaps, truck nuts (that I glued sum fake mustashes 2 so they gots hair), truck exhausts pointing to the sky like the good lord intended, a spoiler on the back, 3 foot riser kit complete with big-ass wheels, and this really suh-weet thing bubba installed that makes my truck look like it's an old-style steel mill like my pappy used to work in, bfor the farkin guv-mint drove all the jobs to the furriners in China.
Believe you me, when me and my buddies have had a few beers and I fire up that smoke machine I could get all the female naughty bits a red-blooded 'murican could ever want. If'n any of my buddies were female :(
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @06:01AM
Using diesel to create just smoke is, besides being bad for the environment, also a waste of precious fuel and thus money. It's much cheaper to use smoking liquid ( Propylene Glycol ) for creating lots of smoke. It is white though. But I would think it's possible to add some environmentally friendly colorant?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @07:21AM
It is white though. But I would think it's possible to add some environmentally friendly colorant?
I don't think being environmentally friendly is really the point, though
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @08:19AM
It is about deliberately shitting where they eat because people they don't like have made it a point to tell the world that they shit in a toilet.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @08:44AM
Mixing a little sugar in your gas makes your engine produce huge clouds of black smoke!
Someone tell those guys so they don't have to spend so much money on modifications...
(Score: -1) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @10:44AM
AC is fucking witya.
Don't try until you've googled sugar in the gas tank.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @01:49PM
Bah, spoil sport!
Oh, and instant rice in a radiator makes excellent emergency stop-leak.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @04:35PM
... and expandable foam in a can stops those annoying fan belt squeaks, but it takes several cans.
(Score: 3, Funny) by khallow on Monday August 25 2014, @05:27PM
You don't lubricate your fan belts with WD-40? What kind of barbarian are you?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Username on Monday August 25 2014, @09:05AM
The problem with ecologically friendly autos is that they’re directly marketed to hippies, who are generally more likely to be smug assholes who drive five under the speed limit just so others will notice they’re being green.
If they truly wanted hybrids and electrics to go mainstream they need to cut out the dumb tree power indicators and other such crap, and make the vehicle look utilitarian. Make a nice electric truck with duals in the back and some heavy lead acid batteries so you can tow and brake with it. Market it to farmers. Unlike what most people think farmers are rich. The average combine/tractor costs millions. It wouldn’t bother them to spend a good 100k on a truck that could pretty much tow anything since electric has so much torque. Once you get into that market, the rednecks will follow.
Hell, make a nice diesel-electric tractor.
(Score: 2, Informative) by KingofBLASH on Monday August 25 2014, @09:28AM
Farmers are not really rich in the sense of the word you're using. Often their land will be worth many millions. And, indeed, the revenues from their farm may be HUGE. But they also have huge costs, and their bottom line tends to be small.
(Although, agreed if there was a truck that was an electric hybrid that saved them money, even with a big expense up front, they might jump on it)
(Score: 2) by Vanderhoth on Monday August 25 2014, @11:33AM
Agreed, Farmers, At least where I'm from, aren't that different from people buying houses. They aren't super rich, but justify spending a lot of money on a tractor with a bunch of bells and whistles, because it's for work, and drive themselves into huge debts. Like people buying super expensive McMansions they can't afford.
The farmer that owned the land behind my in-laws place had a tractor that he'd drive around the field once then he'd kick back and the tractor, literally, did the rest of the work for him. It was basically a giant self-driving lawnmower [wikipedia.org] he'd use two days in a row twice a year. Unfortunately it cost him his land. I guess he didn't realize when you borrow money from the bank, and use your land as collateral, and then can't pay them, because all you're doing is cutting fricken hay, the bank comes and takes your land away and sells it to someone else.
"Now we know", "And knowing is half the battle". -G.I. Joooooe
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @10:09PM
I would get a diesel-electric truck in a hot minute. Or even stirling-electric.
The truck is then my genset wherever I go on the land. Need to drill a hole? Plug in the drill. Need a spotlight where I'm helping birth animals? Click. Radio? Click. Laptop running down? Click. Circular saw? Click.
Add to that huge torque from dead rest with integrated traction control at every wheel, ability to crawl all day without getting sulky, idle at 0MPG ... folks, this is very close to truck heaven in my book. Give it a 25 mile battery so that I can limp home if I need to, and I can plug it in for a charge at night, and run for a while without touching the engine, and it's near perfect.
The part where I have to disagree with you is how rich farmers are. Yes, some farming corporations are wealthy, but farmers are typically land rich and cash poor. Just because my nominal net worth is high doesn't mean that I can tap it. (Oh, and it's not all that high.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 25 2014, @01:44PM
wow if we ever get fusion drives for cars i wonder if theyll just mod that in few centuries to emit a focused neutron beam in the general direction of the perceived douch.
then again these young 'uns dad probably works in a nu-clear powerplant so it alll makes sense :-)
(Score: 2) by nitehawk214 on Monday August 25 2014, @02:31PM
Don't worry, the times they are a-changin'. I once saw a Prius with an elect Romney sticker and a pro-gun sticker.
I also saw a Honda Civic with truck nutz and a 10+ year old Buick with spinners.
(the first comment is equally applicable to the Peak Oil article)
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh