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posted by martyb on Tuesday January 21 2020, @10:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the Plague-Doctor dept.

China confirms human-to-human transmission of new coronavirus:

Human-to-human transmission of a new coronavirus strain has been confirmed in China, fueling fears of a major outbreak of the SARS-like virus as millions travel for the Lunar New Year holiday.

Zhong Nanshan, head of the National Health Commission, said on Monday patients may have contracted the new virus without having visited the central city of Wuhan where it was discovered before spreading across China and reaching three other Asian nations.

"Currently, it can be said it is affirmative that there is the phenomenon of human-to-human transmission," he said in an interview with China's CCTV state broadcaster.

Zhong said two people in Guangdong province in southern China caught the disease from family members who had visited Wuhan.

He added that 14 medical personnel helping with coronavirus patients have also been infected.

Human-to-human transmission could make the virus spread more quickly and widely.

CDC Confirms First US Case of New Coronavirus

Public health officials have confirmed the first U.S. case of a mysterious coronavirus that has already killed at least six people and sickened hundreds of others in China, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday.

A male traveler from China has been diagnosed in Snohomish County, Washington State with the Wuhan coronavirus, according to the CDC.

Officials said the sick male, in his 30s, is “very healthy.” He is currently being isolated at a medical center in the state “out of caution” and “poses little risk” to the public, they said. The CDC said the male reached out to local health authorities on Jan. 15 once he started experiencing pneumonia-like symptoms.

Previously:
China Reports 3rd Death, Nearly 140 New Cases of Coronavirus

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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @10:55PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @10:55PM (#946568)

    Orwell's 1984 was so prescient.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:17PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:17PM (#946582)

      This is a travesty! Didn't you see the stock [marketwatch.com] market [marketwatch.com] crashing [marketwatch.com]! The computer's doing the auto-layoff thing! Nobody has jobs any more! The ecomoney is ruined! This is biological warfare!

      President Camacho will know what to do.

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:26PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:26PM (#946583)
      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:33PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:33PM (#946589)

        Almost all news seems to have transitioned from just being fake to now being fake and market manipulation. It is clear who they have turned to as they near bankruptcy.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @05:51PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @05:51PM (#946912)

          Transitioned? What makes you think it was ever anything different?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:20AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:20AM (#946663)

      Orwell's 1984 was so prescient.

      What does this have to do with being at war with Eastasia? I'm confused!

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:28AM (#946667)

      Forgive the CNBC editors for grabbing a thesaurus when they saw "infected patient appears asymptomatic" - it's not like their audience is conversant with basic science. But do excoriate them for bobbling it so badly.

  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Tuesday January 21 2020, @10:56PM (8 children)

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Tuesday January 21 2020, @10:56PM (#946569) Homepage

    Elements in our government, elements so crooked that they would be willing to kill others Hillary-style, are listening.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:00PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:00PM (#946573)

      Don't worry, Elon Musk is working on a cure.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:14PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:14PM (#946579)

        Don't worry, Elon Musk is working on a cure.

        Free upgrade next time you book your car in for a cerveza?

      • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @12:24AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @12:24AM (#946605)

        Don't worry, Elon Musk is working on a cure.

        Curing by vehicular incineration? I guess it could work, if it cremates the occupants, further transmission is arrested.

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:03PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:03PM (#946575)
      • 1820 yellow fever
      • 1920 Spanish flu
      • 2020 ???
      • (Score: 5, Touché) by Osamabobama on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:09PM

        by Osamabobama (5842) on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:09PM (#946576)

        2020 yellow flu?

        (I realize we can't call it that.)

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:11AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:11AM (#946623)

        Spanish flu started in 1918 and was declared ended in 1920.

        2020 ???

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:14PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:14PM (#946580)

      Ebola circa 2014-2015 was fun. Just coughing in public could get you a sour look. Before that, swine flu I guess.

      Will coronavirus deliver?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:46PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:46PM (#946594)

        SARS?

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:31PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:31PM (#946587)
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:35PM (#946591)

      The lord is the guy who controls whatever superseded HAARP.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:54PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 21 2020, @11:54PM (#946596)

      Too late, he's already impeached.

      • (Score: 2) by Osamabobama on Wednesday January 22 2020, @06:39PM

        by Osamabobama (5842) on Wednesday January 22 2020, @06:39PM (#946929)

        If Trump has been impeached the Lord® will have showen his wrathings.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday January 22 2020, @12:09AM

      by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday January 22 2020, @12:09AM (#946600)

      Advice to Albertans:

      Ensure your gas tank is at least half full and consider using gas-line antifreeze.

      That is really cold.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @12:52PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @12:52PM (#946802)

      Oooh! Is that when this boogaloo gets started and the Christians, the Identitatarians and fellow-travelers at least, start their jihad to cleanse the earth of the inferior races? The women I work with will finally have their fantasy of living in an Amish paradise free of trannies with their reproductive systems completely controlled by their husbands! Trump! Trump! Trump!

  • (Score: 2) by RamiK on Wednesday January 22 2020, @01:31AM (8 children)

    by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday January 22 2020, @01:31AM (#946617)

    This isn't even worth digging in the pantry for the instant chicken broth powder.

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:34AM (2 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:34AM (#946636) Journal

      Oh gee another strain with 3% fatality rate...

      This isn't even worth digging in the pantry for the instant chicken broth powder.

      You're really willing to let die 3% of yourself? (grin)

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      • (Score: 3, Touché) by RamiK on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:54AM (1 child)

        by RamiK (1813) on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:54AM (#946643)

        If it's the waist blubber I'm even willing to pay good money for the job :D

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:46AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:46AM (#946680)

          (Let me look in my cupboard after some gangrening agents and see if I can customize any specifically for waist blubber)

          We may have a deal.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @09:04AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @09:04AM (#946765)

      counting family at ~6 and close friends at ~7, a 3% deathrate is close to claiming one of them. if you add neighbours, you're almost certainly going to at least one funeral. while I find it easy enough to write this down, I don't believe I'm taking it lightly. 3% of the world's population dying would lead to huge changes for the rest as well, for instance a couple of extra civil wars (because someone would be blamed, and someone would be punished). I'm not sure to what extent your opinion or actions matter, but I would recommend that you take a few minutes to really think about the situation.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @11:30AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @11:30AM (#946784)

        Why don't you use some common sense before letting the news control your emotions?

        That is 3% of people *who went to the hospital because they felt very sick*. It is not 3% of people exposed to the virus or even 3% of people infected with the virus.

        Also, all respiratory infections consume vitamin c in your lungs which leads to weakened connective tissue and then pneumonia. If it becomes bad enough you can become critically ill and die. So... take as much as you need, the standard low dose given in the hospital is known to be insufficient. The pharmacokinetics of vitamin C is different in sick people than healthy people, and all the debunkers do is cite studies done in healthy people. When you are sick you need at least 30x more vitamin c than when you are healthy to see the same effects:

        The American Medical Association’s Nutrition Advisory Board recommends an intake of 100 mg/day vitamin C via liquid nutrition [47]. However, hypovitaminosis C was not prevented in our patients with the use of standard enteral and/or parenteral nutrition, despite our TPN containing additional vitamin C (i.e., a total of nearly 200 mg/L). These results agree with data reported by others who have shown that parenteral intakes of ~ 300 mg/day did not change their patients’ plasma vitamin C concentrations [13, 27]. In comparison, intakes of 150–200 mg/day will saturate the plasma of healthy individuals [23], although we and others have observed decreased response to supplementation in individuals with hypovitaminosis C [48, 49]. Uncomplicated surgical patients require > 500 mg/day of vitamin C, with much higher doses required in surgical ICU patients [50]. Parentaeral administration of ≥ 1000 mg/day vitamin C to critically ill patients was barely sufficient to raise plasma vitamin C concentrations above hypovitaminosis C levels [13, 27]. Recent pharmacokinetic data in critically ill patients indicate that ≥ 2000 mg/day is required to normalise plasma vitamin C levels [51], and 3000 mg/day has been shown to result in saturating levels (i.e., 68 μmol/L), as evidenced by enhanced urinary excretion [13].

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5725835/ [nih.gov]

    • (Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Wednesday January 22 2020, @06:04PM (1 child)

      by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us (6553) on Wednesday January 22 2020, @06:04PM (#946915) Journal

      That's only one of the measures as to how damaging something like this can be. How many would have been at risk of death without intervention, and what levels of intervention were required to keep those people going? Answer: You don't know.

      Aside from that, there are Coronavirus variants where the death toll has reached 30-40%. Is that enough to gain your attention?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @06:49PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @06:49PM (#946938)

        Aside from that, there are Coronavirus variants where the death toll has reached 30-40%. Is that enough to gain your attention?

        No, this is a completely meaningless number out of context. Whatever you think it means, it doesn't.

    • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday January 24 2020, @08:37PM

      by hendrikboom (1125) on Friday January 24 2020, @08:37PM (#948121) Homepage Journal

      Last I heard, 3% of patients *died*. How many are going to die but just haven't gotten around to it yet? How many have actually been released from treatment because they are finally healthy again?

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by c0lo on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:16AM (10 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:16AM (#946625) Journal

    WHO [who.int]

    China shared the genetic sequence of the novel coronavirus on 12 January, which will be of great importance for other countries to use in developing specific diagnostic kits.

    NIH [nih.gov]

    The complete annotated genome sequence of the novel coronavirus associated with the outbreak of pneumonia [who.int] in Wuhan, China is now available [nih.gov] from GenBank for free and easy access by the global biomedical community. Figure 1 shows the relationship of the Wuhan virus to selected coronaviruses.

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    • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:34AM (9 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @02:34AM (#946635)

      So they stitched together some dna fragments, but did they detect an actual virus? Did they prove it is the infectious agent via kirchoffs laws, while using the appropriate negative controls?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:06AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:06AM (#946650)

        but did they detect an actual virus?

        There ain't such a thing as an actual virus. Only estimated viruses exist.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:47AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @03:47AM (#946682)
      • (Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @05:08AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 22 2020, @05:08AM (#946711)

        Did they prove it is the infectious agent via kirchoffs laws, while using the appropriate negative controls?

        No, because:
        1. they didn't have the negative control, only the ground
        2. they couldn't measure the current through the probes because viruses refuse to this day to pass through conductive wires, such as those used by ammeters
        3. the potential signal was too noisy

        For reference, see Kirchhoff's circuit laws [wikipedia.org]

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