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According to a letter to congress from Ajit V. Pai, chairman of the U.S. Federal Communication Commission (FCC), carriers broke federal law by selling customer location data. Pai intends to followup with "Notice(s) of Apparent Liability for Forfeiture."
The Federal Communications Commission's enforcement bureau has determined that "one or more" wireless carriers' practices for handling location data violated the law, Chairman Ajit Pai told Congress Friday.
The sales of location data by major telecommunication carriers was highlighted the past few years in a series of Motherboard stories which exposed the widespread practice.
All four major U.S. carriers have said they no longer sell location data.
Potential FCC fines aren't the only fallout from the revelations. The digital rights group Electronic Frontier Foundation is also suing AT&T for allegedly violating the Federal Communications Act.
That law requires telecoms to preserve confidentiality of "customer proprietary network information" -- including location data they obtain via their role as carriers.
The digital rights organization is seeking a court order prohibiting AT&T from sharing their location data.
AT&T argues that "the lawsuit should be dismissed, [since they] stopped providing geolocation data to aggregators"
It will be interesting to see if that line of legal reasoning works for them.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 03 2020, @06:48AM (2 children)
If he turns on the telecoms, his white masters will have him put down. BAD DOG!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 03 2020, @07:46AM (1 child)
They probably ordered Pai to give them a slap on the wrist. Nothing to see here, move along.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 03 2020, @11:51AM
Could be, but he Arkancides himself with three shots to the back of the head, don't say I didn't warn you!
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday February 03 2020, @07:06AM
a nickel here, a dime there... wow pretty soon it's gonna add up to whole dollar, then what?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 03 2020, @07:45AM
how about another joke murray
what do you get
when you cross
a sexually charged pitbull
with a parrot that offers itself willingly
i'll tell you what you get
YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE!
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 03 2020, @07:48AM (1 child)
How about another joke murray...
All jok and no er makes society a dull day
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU GET!
YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 03 2020, @07:52AM
I think it would be ok to mod that spam, and the one before it too!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by MostCynical on Monday February 03 2020, @09:02AM (7 children)
Isn't that like saying "yes, but I haven't killed anyone since..."
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday February 03 2020, @11:44AM (5 children)
Yes, and "I've stopped robbing banks, so my conviction for robbing banks should be dropped."
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday February 03 2020, @06:06PM (4 children)
So, Trump's Ukraine defense. Got it.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Monday February 03 2020, @06:17PM (3 children)
You're confusing Biden's Ukraine defense with Trump. Trump is still in office, in a position to bargain with US Foreign Aid. As has been repeated often enough, it's standard operating procedure.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Monday February 03 2020, @06:51PM (2 children)
Nope, the Constitution clearly states that the Congress get's to decide what money is spent and when.
That's why the Government Accountability Office found that the Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid [thehill.com]
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Monday February 03 2020, @06:53PM (1 child)
Remember when conservatives were opposed to executive overreach?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday February 03 2020, @07:22PM
I'm also old enough to remember when Democrats were credited with opposing war. What a disillusionment THAT was.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 03 2020, @02:48PM
"I've stopped selling data to group A, don't make me stop selling it to group B too!"
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Fishscene on Monday February 03 2020, @02:59PM (1 child)
AT&T argues that "the lawsuit should be dismissed, [since they] stopped providing geolocation data to aggregators"
...just not to aggregators.
Whenever a company is oddly specific, it's because they're trying to fool you. AT&T is still a corrupt money-grabbing institution and I doubt they will ever be otherwise.
Why do I not like them? I see the same tactics used over and over by them.
I used to work for a place that had a T1 line and we wanted to get fiber internet. AT&T was one of the vendors we looked in to and we were actually leaning *towards* them. Somehow another company was able to do it for much cheaper though, so IT was overruled. It was later learned AT&T had already obtained federal funding to lay fiber right next to us and was already going through the motions of laying the fiber (obtaining permits, sourcing crews, etc..) while we were in negotiations with them. Why were they more expensive? They wanted us to pay for laying the fiber that had already been payed for. The other vendor? They knew what was up and billed us for running the fiber from AT&T's neighborhood node to our MPoE.
That's my personal story - I've heard dozens more in almost every market that AT&T is a player in.
AT&T is forever blacklisted - and if I'm ever in a position to choose a vendor for Internet, you can bet AT&T is the first one scratched off the list.
I know I am not God, because every time I pray to Him, it's because I'm not perfect and thankful for what He's done.
(Score: 4, Informative) by bzipitidoo on Monday February 03 2020, @04:52PM
Same old Ma Bell. AT&T was broken up in 1984, but like some regenerative, bottom feeding, slimy sea creature, has managed to reconstitute and regrow itself.
In the mid 1970s, my father returned from a business trip to Canada with some contraband not available in the US: an extra long cord for a phone handset (gasp!). You could actually move around a bit while holding the handset! AT&T was pretty insistent that you couldn't have any extras whatsoever, unless you paid them more money every month. Tone dialing with a dial pad was an upgrade over pulse dialing with a rotary dial, and of course they charged more for that. I also remember the faint ringer check they often did around 1AM, to detect how many extensions you had plugged into the phone line. Needed a phone with a switch to turn the ringer off to dodge that check. Their greed and controlling ways is also why we ever had 110 baud acoustic modems.
(Score: 2) by Beryllium Sphere (r) on Monday February 03 2020, @08:53PM (1 child)
Anyone know whether it works or whether ATT disregards it?
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Monday February 03 2020, @09:38PM
The people who opt out of things are the ones they are really interested in.
Might as well run around on top of your house with a giant red flag.
Well maybe in trumpco era that might put you on the right list, who knows at the moment.
We have real reason to be very cynical about this, not reason to give the benefit of the doubt.
I wish I could say that to everybody in the whole world. sigh
https://jmichaelhudson.net/asocial-media-refugee/ [jmichaelhudson.net]