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posted by martyb on Tuesday February 04 2020, @06:33AM   Printer-friendly
from the Have-you-ever-read-a-book,-magazine,-or-newspaper?-Which-ones? dept.

Ars Technica:

Music-industry lawyers plan to ask potential jurors in a piracy case whether they read Ars Technica.

"Have you ever read or visited Ars Technica or TorrentFreak?" is one of 40 voir dire questions that plaintiffs propose to ask prospective jurors in their case against Grande Communications, an Internet service provider accused of aiding its customers' piracy, according to a court filing on Friday.

[...] Record-label attorneys also want to ask potential jurors if they "know what a peer-to-peer network is," have "ever downloaded content from any BitTorrent website" such as The Pirate Bay and KickassTorrents, obtained music or video from "any stream-ripping service," been "accused of infringing a copyright," or "ever been a member, contributor or supporter of the Electronic Frontier Foundation."

The full list of questions by each party were made available by TorrentFreak as pdfs:

Have you now, or ever been, a member of the Pirate Party?


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  • (Score: 2) by ledow on Tuesday February 04 2020, @02:22PM (6 children)

    by ledow (5567) on Tuesday February 04 2020, @02:22PM (#953540) Homepage

    Any judicial system where you choose your jurors is stupendously idiotic.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 04 2020, @02:57PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 04 2020, @02:57PM (#953560)

    In the american system each side gets to dismiss without justification, i think, 2 jurors. A kind of jury mulligan. Of course the replacements might be worse. Engineers are usually targeted for dismissal because lack of emotion and excess logic in judgement. If both sides don't like a juror I think they can be dismissed without it counting against the 2. Of course my sources may be dated or the numbers vary by jurisdiction or level of court. So in a jury that is ultimately 12 people, your most hated 2 are gone but your best 2 are also gone so you are stuck with 8 that you didn't dismiss and 4 that you didn't have the option to just wildcard dismiss.

    • (Score: 3, Touché) by barbara hudson on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:29PM (3 children)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:29PM (#953578) Journal

      Engineers are usually targeted for dismissal because lack of emotion and excess logic in judgement.

      Boy do they get that one wrong.

      vi vs emacs
      any discussion involving systemd or Lennart Poettering
      Greta Thunberg
      hate speech vs free speech

      I could go on, but the last time I posted [deleted text] I got over 50 troll mods because people lost their shit!

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      • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday February 04 2020, @04:25PM (2 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday February 04 2020, @04:25PM (#953623) Journal

        In all my years, I have gotten a +5 Troll only twice. Once on SN. And once long ago on the green site.

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        • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by barbara hudson on Tuesday February 04 2020, @05:06PM (1 child)

          by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday February 04 2020, @05:06PM (#953652) Journal
          Lucky you. I keep missing it, but then again it's not like I'm trying to get one. Just that there's a lot of group-think among people who deny they could be affected by group think. And now they'll get pissy again because I've pointed it out.

          Mostly libertarians who think social justice is evil.

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          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 05 2020, @02:51AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 05 2020, @02:51AM (#954008) Journal

            You've hit on one of the most insidious ways hate and groupthink operate: convincing their targets that they (said targets) are immune to the very ploy the propaganda is using. Not only do the targets drop their defenses, they actually become partially or fully unable to comprehend what's happened to them because they take it for granted--almost as an axiom--that it isn't possible.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:05PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:05PM (#953567)

    Well, having been in the jury selection process multiple times, and looking at the pool of potential jurists present, I believe some sort of selection is helpful. It's crazy how biased some people are and how unwilling they can be to have an open mind. I was shocked at some of their answers during jury selection questioning.