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posted by martyb on Tuesday February 04 2020, @06:33AM   Printer-friendly
from the Have-you-ever-read-a-book,-magazine,-or-newspaper?-Which-ones? dept.

Ars Technica:

Music-industry lawyers plan to ask potential jurors in a piracy case whether they read Ars Technica.

"Have you ever read or visited Ars Technica or TorrentFreak?" is one of 40 voir dire questions that plaintiffs propose to ask prospective jurors in their case against Grande Communications, an Internet service provider accused of aiding its customers' piracy, according to a court filing on Friday.

[...] Record-label attorneys also want to ask potential jurors if they "know what a peer-to-peer network is," have "ever downloaded content from any BitTorrent website" such as The Pirate Bay and KickassTorrents, obtained music or video from "any stream-ripping service," been "accused of infringing a copyright," or "ever been a member, contributor or supporter of the Electronic Frontier Foundation."

The full list of questions by each party were made available by TorrentFreak as pdfs:

Have you now, or ever been, a member of the Pirate Party?


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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by barbara hudson on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:23PM (5 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:23PM (#953575) Journal

    A jury of your peers originally meant "a jury of your betters." Think UK class hierarchy. Only the peerage were allowed to sit on a jury and judge you, not your equals. Because, after all, what do we plebes know?

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by tangomargarine on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:34PM (4 children)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:34PM (#953580)

    You have a citation for that? Because this is the first result I got when I did a search:

    The phrase "a jury of peers" dates back to the signing of the Magna Carta in England. At that point, the provision ensured that members of the nobility were tried by a jury comprised of fellow nobles, rather than being judged by the king. Now, however, this phrase more accurately means "a jury of fellow citizens."

    which doesn't necessarily mean commoners were *also* tried by nobles. In fact, not being tried by the king suggests that the point was explicitly that you *couldn't* be tried by your social betters.

    https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/what-is-a-jury-of-peers.html [findlaw.com]

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    • (Score: 1, Troll) by barbara hudson on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:39PM (3 children)

      by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:39PM (#953584) Journal
      Doesn't negate what I wrote. The magna carta placed certain limits on the king's power. It didn't change the peerage's power to try cases of the rest of the population. Commoners were not judged by a jury composed of other commoners.
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      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:43PM (2 children)

        by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday February 04 2020, @03:43PM (#953586)

        You didn't answer my request for a source either.

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        • (Score: 1, Troll) by barbara hudson on Tuesday February 04 2020, @05:03PM (1 child)

          by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Tuesday February 04 2020, @05:03PM (#953651) Journal
          Why would I bother. Anyone with a decent high school education knows this (though YMMV depending on location). Get better teachers and don't skip classes. You never know what boring class can come in handy.
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          • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Tuesday February 04 2020, @05:49PM

            by Pino P (4721) on Tuesday February 04 2020, @05:49PM (#953669) Journal

            Anyone with a decent high school education knows [the history of the powers of the English monarchy] (though YMMV depending on location).

            Mileage indeed varies depending on location. I'm under the impression that the K-12 curriculum in Detroit, Michigan, teaches more about the history of faraway Texas, California, and Hawaii than the history of physically neighboring Windsor, Ontario. This is purely because of the international border between the two, which immigration law and culture deem to trump physical distance.