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posted by janrinok on Tuesday August 26 2014, @09:31PM   Printer-friendly
from the can-I-live-in-a-different-world-please? dept.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that a new nail polish called Undercover Colors changes color when it comes in contact with any date rape drug so, a woman just has to discretely dip her finger in her drink to test it for safety. "Our goal is to invent technologies that empower women to protect themselves from this heinous and quietly pervasive crime," say four male undergraduates at North Carolina State University who are developing the polish and currently asking for donations to complete their work. "​Through this nail polish and similar technologies, we hope to make potential perpetrators afraid to spike a woman’s drink because there’s now a risk that they can get caught."

However some sexual assault prevention advocates warn that the nail polish is not necessarily the best way to approach the sexual assault epidemic on college campuses. “One of the ways that rape is used as a tool to control people is by limiting their behavior,” says Rebecca Nagle. “As a woman, I’m told not to go out alone at night, to watch my drink, to do all of these things. That way, rape isn’t just controlling me while I’m actually being assaulted — it controls me 24/7 because it limits my behavior. Solutions like these actually just recreate that. I don’t want to fucking test my drink when I’m at the bar. That’s not the world I want to live in.” According to Alexandra Brodsky the argument that women simply need to be more responsible is a common response to the current conversation about sexual assault on college campuses — and one that activists say doesn’t get to the heart of the issue. "The problem isn’t that women don’t know when there are roofies in their drink; the problem is people putting roofies in their drink in the first place."

 
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  • (Score: 2) by Tork on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:22AM

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:22AM (#86018)

    Self-righteousness: "Are you suggesting making it harder for women to avoid rape so we'll finally solve the social problem of rape?"

    Oh the hypocrisy of that statement. Wow.

    Seeks answers: "What do you suggest to solve the social problem of rape?"

    Actually my original question was: "This is what it sounds like you're saying, am I wrong?" The difference is important to the conversation, or at least it would have been if you had a more sophisticated take on this topic.

    This "slashdottian nonsense" was 100% your creation at every step. You chose twice to accuse me of being pro-rape under the cover of asking a question.

    I expressed astonishment at your statement and when you challenged my tone I altered it. Your response then was to keep circling the drain on the original accusation... just like what happens on Slashdot. You failed to make your point originally then you turned hostile when challenged on it. I do not accept responsibility for that.

    Do not accuse people of being assholes if you want a response other than fuck off.

    You're upset, not because of an implied accusation of being a terrible human being, but because you know that's how your post was going to be read and you think your wimpy little handwavium should have been enough to protect you from it. The consequences of that were entirely within your control. Blaming me is only succeeding in stabbing you in the back during your attempt to pin 'self-righteousness' on me. Grow up.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:27AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:27AM (#86021)

    my original question was: "This is what it sounds like you're saying, am I wrong?"

    Since that text does not actually exist in anything you've posted here, you are now making shit up to rationalize your poor behavior.
    I think that marks the end of this discussion.

    • (Score: 2) by Tork on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:45AM

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:45AM (#86030)

      Since that text does not actually exist in anything you've posted here, you are now making shit up to rationalize your poor behavior.

      Here it is:

      Here, I'll rephrase it less assholishly: "Are you suggesting making it harder for women to avoid rape so we'll finally solve the social problem of rape?"

      I think that marks the end of this discussion.

      Heh. Sure you don't want to advertise your reading comprehension problem a little more before you go?

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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by mrider on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:50AM

        by mrider (3252) on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:50AM (#86032)

        Posting as A.C. because I've moderated in this thread - and in fact I've moderated you up elsewhere in this post:

         

        I think you're just feeding the troll at this point... mrider

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        • (Score: 2) by mrider on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:52AM

          by mrider (3252) on Wednesday August 27 2014, @02:52AM (#86033)

          AAAND of course I forgot to check the "Post Anonymously" check box. Oh well, syonara points I've given in this thread. :(

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @04:04AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @04:04AM (#86056)

            Soylentcode changed that. Posting does not negate previous moderations, it just blocks you from doing any new ones afterward.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @10:05AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @10:05AM (#86144)

          Posting as A.C. because I've moderated in this thread

          Unlike on the other site, on Soylent News you don't undo your moderations by posting after moderating.

        • (Score: 3, Informative) by Tork on Wednesday August 27 2014, @05:18PM

          by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday August 27 2014, @05:18PM (#86365)
          I think you're right.

          Sorry about your mod-points, though. Have a good week, man.
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @04:01AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @04:01AM (#86054)

        Here it is:

        Here, I'll rephrase it less assholishly: "Are you suggesting making it harder for women to avoid rape so we'll finally solve the social problem of rape?"

        Since that is not literally the same text you seem to be arguing that the OP erred by not taking the best possible interpretation of what you wrote (that you were not accusing him of being pro-rape) while simultaneously arguing that you were correct in taking the worst possible interpretation of what he wrote (that the logical conclusion was more raping).

        There is something called the "principle of charity" [lander.edu] which includes this precept:

        "We seek to understand the ideas in their most persuasive form and actively attempt to resolve contradictions. If more than one view is presented, we choose the one that appears the most cogent."

        It looks like you are trying to claim it for yourself while denying it to the OP, even though the last paragraph of the first post looks like a straight-up contradiction of your interpretation.

        I'm a fan of the principle of charity and I don't see either of you using it here, but I think all this mishegas would have been avoided if just one of you had.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @04:23AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @04:23AM (#86064)

          > Since that is not literally the same text you seem to be arguing that the OP erred by not taking the best possible interpretation of what you wrote (that you were not accusing him of being pro-rape) while simultaneously arguing that you were correct in taking the worst possible interpretation of what he wrote (that the logical conclusion was more raping).

          Those two are both noisy morons. However, your assertion that their two statements were equally faulty is false. You might have had a point if that statement didn't end in a question mark.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @05:18AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @05:18AM (#86087)

            The cavuto mark. [newshounds.us]

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @06:06AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @06:06AM (#86097)

              That doesn't describe either of the idiots in this thread.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @10:58AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27 2014, @10:58AM (#86157)

    ...and the peanut gallery is back with a verdict!

    We, the peanut gallery, declare Tork to be the more sensible party in this discussion. Anonymous Coward is an oversensitive and immature dolt.