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posted by janrinok on Saturday February 08 2020, @01:37PM   Printer-friendly
from the happening-since-the-start-of-the-Cold-War dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

The FBI director warns that Russian efforts to sow discord and political divide among Americans is continuing. The director of the FBI told lawmakers Wednesday that Russia is engaging in "information warfare" as the US heads into the 2020 presidential election. But he said there's no sign that Russia is targeting America's election infrastructure.

FBI Director Chris Wray told the House Judiciary Committee that Russia is waging a covert social media campaign to create a political divide and sow the seeds of discord among Americans, just as it did during the 2016 election, according to an Associated Press account of the hearing.

The effort, Wray said, involves fictional personas, bots, social media postings and disinformation. He said the threat was continuous and that was harder to combat than a hack on an election system.

"Unlike a cyberattack on an election infrastructure, that kind of effort -- disinformation -- in a world where we have a First Amendment and believe strongly in freedom of expression, the FBI is not going to be in the business of being the truth police and monitoring disinformation online," Wray said.

Disinformation has long been a part of Russia's foreign policy strategy, and social media has allowed the trolling effort to expand on a viral scale. US intelligence agencies have warned Congress that these campaigns will continue in future elections.

[...] "They identify an issue that they know that the American people feel passionately about on both sides and then they take both sides and spin them up so they pit us against each other," Wray said. "And then they combine that with an effort to weaken our confidence in our elections and our democratic institutions, which has been a pernicious and asymmetric way of engaging in ... information warfare."


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  • (Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Saturday February 08 2020, @02:47PM (8 children)

    by jmichaelhudsondotnet (8122) on Saturday February 08 2020, @02:47PM (#955659) Journal

    "Everyone is doing what we are doing but they are bad, very bad boys!"

    Does anyone think it is a good use for uniformed soldiers to be at eglin airforce base trollin the libs and socket puppet battling on reddit operating r/conspiracy?

    I don't. That is not what the word soldier means.

    That is also not what information means, knowledge is not a weapon like a knife. I can't make you read books to death, I can't shout at you like paul atreides(yet) so you are hurt.

    Information Warfare = Arguing

    End of story. They are turning all civil culture into a battleground if they haven't succeeded already. You cannot have civilian government without an open forum of ideas, at all. If no open forum, there is no civilian governance.

    Totalitarianism is military dictatorship forever, the absence of civilian governance. This is not an accident.

    https://archive.is/kJKap [archive.is] cnbc fail
    https://archive.is/blM4a [archive.is] robach fail
    https://archive.is/iOckl [archive.is] eglin afb
    https://archive.ph/EdHYz [archive.ph] jtrig
    https://archive.is/rWnr8 [archive.is] forums like this front lines
    https://archive.is/osDks [archive.is] how to detect their websites...

    https://archive.is/FRGCj [archive.is] what the entire information war is actually doing is protecting a history of lies, the lies you have to prove you can believe in order to be granted power in the totalitarian system. As defined in 1984, the cynacism required to believe literally nothing, and every lie, and be relativistic about everything, is the entry ticket to all of the good things in life. The left side of this equation is waging a war of long term attrition against everyone on the right side, and in the end, all human history may be eventually rewritten.

    The "information war", is just the facemask of the Uniform Degenerative Force, Dark Psychic Energy, Anti-Movement Policing, and Anti-humanism, of the oligarchy against everyone else, and at this point any of these competing totalitarian systems would have a near impossible time distinguishing itself from any other, or justifying their actions in any non-relativistic sense.

    We are being pressured to forget everything we know and to stop trying to know, and accept atrocity as normal and necessary.

    And it so very well mirrors what I would expect from the future after losing a game of XCOM 2, which is the worst possible evaluation for human leadership in human society, that your work resembles an alien takeover bent on human enslavement and eventual extinction.

    thesesystemsarefailing.net but the fish is rotting from the head down so you might want to consider that in your operational plan next time you get your orders to do something insane against humanity, so you might want to consider,
    decultification.org if you are looking for alternative ideas.
    And you should consider my expanded definitions page if you would like to see an attempt to rebuild the english language from the malignant pile of gooey cruft treacherous mass media institutions have dumped into your neocortex

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday February 08 2020, @03:02PM (6 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday February 08 2020, @03:02PM (#955667) Journal

    knowledge is not a weapon like a knife

    Bullshit.

    The one indispensable weapon that any soldier possesses, is his mind. I know that so many of you work hard to portray soldiers as some kind of brainwashed slaves. But, brainwashed slaves don't win battles, or wars. Janissaries and Immortals didn't preserve their ruler's empires, did they? Nope.

    Knowledge is power. Always has been, always will be.

    • (Score: 2) by legont on Saturday February 08 2020, @05:53PM

      by legont (4179) on Saturday February 08 2020, @05:53PM (#955728)

      Yes, exactly.
      Whoever has the most secrets will fail.

      --
      "Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
    • (Score: 4, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 08 2020, @07:35PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 08 2020, @07:35PM (#955758)

      Knowledge is power. Always has been, always will be.

      This from the demonstrably most ignorant and uneducated Soylentil? Funny!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 08 2020, @08:11PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 08 2020, @08:11PM (#955768)

      I think at least a certain amount of brainwashing would be required to get someone to go
      to Iraq in 2003 when the amount of doubt about the WMD's was becoming pretty well known.

      Maybe not a complete takeover of a mind, but at least having a soldier believing the
      govt/military story, without looking at the data.

    • (Score: 2) by Lester on Saturday February 08 2020, @08:35PM (2 children)

      by Lester (6231) on Saturday February 08 2020, @08:35PM (#955784) Journal

      Brainwashed generals don't win battles, but brainwashed soldiers do win battles.

      Once a general told me "to get a man attack gun-machine it must be intoxicate, of alcohol, or discipline, or patriotism". Wars nowadays are not like that, they look more like a video game, than a real war. But in the ground they are as dirty and as cruel as always. A soldier is human that has overcome important instincts, survival instinct and empathy to other human instinct. And the only way to get that is by brainwashing.

      The more brainwashed the bottom level soldiers is, the better. A robot is the perfect soldier. And they are working on it [youtube.com].

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday February 09 2020, @12:30AM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 09 2020, @12:30AM (#955838) Journal

        In the 1940's, Russia faced an existential threat. Not only as a nation, but as a people. The invaders had no clear goals, it was just kill, kill, kill, pause for some raping and pillaging, then kill some more. Men, women, and even children went into the inferno, almost willingly, to defend their homes, their families, their way of life, their heritage.

        Would you call that brainwashing?

        I'm glad that you noted, there might be levels, or degrees of brainwashing. I can probably go along with that. Of course, we have witnessed the brainwashing that goes on in our public schools systems. You've given me some food for thought, at the least.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 09 2020, @06:15AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 09 2020, @06:15AM (#955932)

          to defend their homes, their families, their way of life, their heritage.
          Would you call that brainwashing?

          Their families? No. Their homes? Yes; dying to save a house is stupid, brainwashed to value an inert shape of stone, wood and metal over life. Their way of life, their heritage? Uh, YES dying for that is brainwashed? GP said "intoxicated by... patriotism" and 'our way of life, our heritage' is almost word for word a Nazi slogan, too, not just among the reasons the Russians fought.

          How many times would I want to die to preserve the part of my way of life which includes, say, US pop culture? Appx 0 times. That way of life, that contemporary cultural heritage, is not one I've been brainwashed to love more than my preservation instinct.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday February 09 2020, @11:04PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday February 09 2020, @11:04PM (#956193) Journal

    Does anyone think it is a good use for uniformed soldiers to be at eglin airforce base trollin the libs and socket puppet battling on reddit operating r/conspiracy?

    Beats killing people and blowing up stuff people need, amirite?