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Journal by fustakrakich
You know who is the only person on the list that has a chance, right? This has nothing to do with opinion, mine or yours.
But we do know now that Hillary doesn't need to run, so no need to bring her up anymore. Even a bunch (over 20%) of Bernie supporters will go for it
It's probably the only peaceable way out of this
We have to face facts, put all the bullshit aside
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Dying is one of the few things that can be done as easily lying down.
-- Woody Allen
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @12:26AM (18 children)
Considering that the link is to an article about Bloomberg, I gather that you think he is the only one with a chance to win. Frankly, I find it a bit odd that you would claim him as your presumptive champion, considering that (A) he got rather severely drubbed by Sen. Warren (and really just about everyone else, actually) in his first debate the other night and (B) he has yet to appear on a ballot in any primary election. Yes, it's true. Not in Iowa. Not in New Hampshire. Not even in today's caucus in Nevada. He has yet to be tested in an actual primary election. Given that, it seems rather presumptuous to declare him as the only viable candidate for the general election until he is actually tested in an election.
Well, the opinions that actually count are those of us who are registered voters here in the USA. Which leads me to my first set of questions. I have seen some suggestions that you aren't a voter here in the USA. Could you please clarify? Are you a registered voter here in the USA? Are you even a citizen of the USA? If not, what country are you a citizen of? Also, if you are not a US citizen, what is your interest in our Presidential election?
Quite. So why are you bringing her into the discussion? What is your point?
Peaceable. Interesting. What exactly are you suggesting here? Do you not believe in the democratic process? You know, everybody gets to vote and then we try, as best as we can, to close ranks around those who win the election? Please clarify.
Now, please don't mod me as "Funny" but lately I have noticed you giving off all the signs of being a foreign operative. Which leads to my next set of questions, and I hope you will give us serious answers to them.
(1) Are you now, or have you ever in the past, or do you ever in the future anticipate getting compensation (financial or otherwise) from a foreign government for participating in discussions here on SN or any other online forum?
(2) Are you now, or have you ever been in the past, a member of or affiliated with a foreign political entity?
(3) Are you now, or have you ever been in the past, in the employ of a foreign government? If so, which one(s)?
I hope you take my questions seriously, as they deserve. Don't get me wrong. You are welcome to have an opinion on our elections. Lots of people do. In fact, I see at least one or two participating in the discussions about US politics on SN who are foreign nationals but they have typically been quite transparent about their foreign citizenship and their motives; you, by contrast, have been far more ambiguous. And for someone who apparently is not a voter in the USA you seem to have an inordinate interest in the outcome of our elections. The amount of energy you exert in trying to influence this election seems out of proportion to your personal stake in it. So, what is your angle on this election? The reason why I am asking is to judge whether your comments should be taken as propaganda or as the comments of an interested foreign observer. Whichever way you answer will dictate how I should respond (or not) to your comments.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @01:27AM (8 children)
Because that is who you are going to be voting for in 9 months. If she keeps feeling the "urge" that is. Literally the only thing that would stop you from voting for her is if she decides not to run.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @02:01AM
*Smirk* Dream on. While I did vote for her in 2016, I have no intention of doing so again in 2020. I will go third party before I choose her on the ballot this time around..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @04:44AM (6 children)
You're buggin'!
I hate to break it to you, but it's *way* too late for new folks to get into the Democratic primaries. Filing deadlines for state primaries/caucuses have all passed except for those in Montana (9 March 2020), Nebraska (12 March 2020), New Mexico (30 March 2020) and Oregon (10 March 2020) (Source: https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates). [ballotpedia.org]
The four states where the deadline for inclusion on the primary ballot has not already passed have a total of 178 delegates combined, out of a total of 4,750 delegates. As such, if *anyone* attempted to file in those four states, the most delegates they could receive (assuming they *win* all the delegates in all four states) is 178+all 771 "superdelegates" (source: https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_delegate_rules,_2020). [ballotpedia.org] Which would be absurd in the extreme.
But just for giggles let's posit that a candidate could sweep Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico and Oregon *and* get support from all 771 "superdelegates." That's a total of 949 delegates, or ~20% of the total delegates. Which wouldn't be nearly enough to get the nomination.
And, since sweeping all four states *and* getting *all* the superdelegates is an outcome so unlikely as to be absurd, there's no way that anyone could enter the campaign for Democratic presidential nominee at this late date and have *any* chance to succeed.
So. You're talking out of your ass and it smells that way too. Damn, that stinks!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @06:45AM (5 children)
To be fair to fustakrakich, I think what he is suggesting is that she might win a brokered deal in a contested convention. The big problem with that analysis is that Hillary lost to Trump in 2016; she has the putrid smell of loser all over her. I doubt there would be all that many delegates who want to see a repeat of 2016.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday February 23 2020, @07:58AM (4 children)
The DNC prefers Trump to Sanders. Hillary remains in the background. Bloomberg is handling it. All the arrangements have been made.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @08:32AM (2 children)
"Bloomberg is handling it."
The last I saw of Bloomberg, he face-planted at the debate in Nevada. You're delusional.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday February 23 2020, @06:33PM (1 child)
Yes, yes, we all enjoy the theater... but, please... watch what happens at the convention. This act has been done before with great success. It already is a Trump/Bloomberg race with a lot of background noise from the cheap seats. One of those two will win.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @09:24PM
OK, folks! You saw it here first! I'm sure it will be fun to force feed fustakrakich crow (or would that be buzzard?) come July. Right, guys?
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @05:46PM
Is it painful to talk out of your ass so much? Or are you just so used to it now that it doesn't bother you at all?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @04:49AM
I'm sorry other AC, but you're way to concerned about Fusty.
It doesn't really matter where he is, as he's shown himself to have the political ideas of a nine year-old time and again.
If someone is actually paying him to sway *anyone*, they're wasting their money.
He's either an idiot or a (low quality) shill/troll. Which is crystal clear to anyone who has read the blather he spews.
That you take him seriously in any respect is unfortunate.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday February 23 2020, @06:09AM (4 children)
I just posted above that Bloomberg will be on the ballot no matter what. Read the link, or anything else about Ned Lamont's 2006 senate campaign to understand how it will work out here. Only Bloomberg has the bipartisan draw to replace Trump. Loosen up on the pearls, it's just math.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @07:01AM
"Only Bloomberg has the bipartisan draw to replace Trump."
Considering that he has yet to appear on a primary ballot, much less actually win *anything*, don't you think your claim is a bit premature?
"it's just math."
Actually, at this point it's just (your) speculation. Just sayin'.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @07:36AM (2 children)
Because you are an idiot. An asshole racist misogynist billionaire, because that is what the Republican Party has become? Bloomy is not even a Reality TV Show SuperStar like the Donald! He only has some Guiliani type "arrest all the minorities" stuff going on. What about Steyer? Or Gates? Or the Hathaway-Berkshire guy? We really need more billionaires, except for that one question: "If you are so rich, why are you not smart?". Bloomberg will not be on the ballot, rich enough, but not smart enough. These are Democrats we are talking about here, not uneducated redneck hillbilly junkers like Runaway, or VLM, or TMB.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 23 2020, @07:34PM
Hey! None of those mental slurs, "differently educated" please.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday February 24 2020, @01:23AM
Bloomberg will not be on the ballot
:-) If Sanders, or Warren even, wins the nomination, he most certainly will be on the ballot, just not as a democrat.
Why do you people have such difficultly understanding this?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday February 24 2020, @03:34AM (2 children)
He's long been a big booster of the Russian machine.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday February 24 2020, @03:56AM (1 child)
:-) You forgot your sarcasm tag
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday February 24 2020, @04:57AM