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posted by janrinok on Saturday March 28 2020, @06:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the summing-up dept.

Arthur T Knackerbracket has found the following story:

We are unabashed fans of [The History Guy’s] YouTube channel, although his history videos aren’t always about technology, and even when they are, they don’t always dig into the depths that we’d like to see. That’s understandable since the channel is a general interest channel. However, for this piece on James Clerk Maxwell, he brought in [Arvin Ash] to handle the science side. While [The History Guy] talked about Maxwell’s life and contributions, [Arvin] has a complimentary video covering the math behind the equations. [...]

Deriving Maxwell’s equations is a math nightmare, but [Arvin] doesn’t do that. He uses some amazing graphics to explain how the equations relate electricity and magnetism. A great deal of our modern world — especially related to any sort of radio technology — builds on these four concise equations.

One thing we didn’t realize is how wide-ranging Maxwell’s interest were. He contributed to astronomy by explaining Saturn’s rings, derived statistical laws about gasses, and worked on color vision, including creating the first light-fast color photograph. He also contributed to thermodynamics, control theory, and optics. Those were the days!


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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by maxwell demon on Saturday March 28 2020, @07:16AM (6 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 28 2020, @07:16AM (#976578) Journal

    Not to mention that he also invented me!

    --
    The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @08:34AM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @08:34AM (#976588)

      I want my free energy check, you demon!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @06:01PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @06:01PM (#976689)

        You can have one of these,
            http://massmind.org/images/com/visi/www/http/~darus/hilsch/hilsch.html [massmind.org]

        ...
        After a serious analysis of the consequences of his law, Maxwell permitted himself a touch of humor. He suggested that there was a statistical probability that; at some time in the future, all the molecules in a box of gas or a glass of hot water might be moving in the same direction. This would cause the water to rise out of the glass. Next Maxwell suggested that a system of drawing both hot and cold water out of a single pipe might be devised if we could capture a small demon and train him to open and close a tiny valve. The demon would open the valve only when a fast molecule approached it, and close the valve against slow molecules. The water coming out of the valve would thus be hot. To produce a stream of cold water the demon would open the valve only for slow molecules.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @06:03PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @06:03PM (#976690)

          and the rest of the pull quote,

          Maxwell's demon would circumvent the law of thermodynamics which says in essence: "You can't get something for nothing." That is to say, one cannot separate cold water from hot without doing work. Thus when physicists heard that the Germans had developed a device which could achieve low temperatures by utilizing Maxwell's demon, they were intrigued, though obviously skeptical. One physicist investigated the matter at first hand for the U. S. Navy. He discovered that the device was most ingenious, though not quite as miraculous as had been rumored.

          It consists of a T-shaped assembly of pipe joined by a novel fitting, as depicted in Figure 234. when compressed air is admitted to the "leg" of the T, hot air comes out of one arm of the T and cold air out of the other arm! Obviously, however, work must be done to compress the air.

          The origin of the device is obscure. The principle is said to have been discovered by a Frenchman who left some early experimental models in the path of the German Army when France was occupied. These were turned over to a German physicist named Rudolf Hilsch, who was working on low temperature refrigerating devices for the German war effort. Hilsch made some improvements on the Frenchman's design, but found that it was no more efficient than conventional methods of refrigeration in achieving fairly low temperatures. Subsequently the device became known as the Hilsch tube.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @07:41PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @07:41PM (#976731)

            I had a colleague in grad school doing research in Hilsch tubes. They are loud as hell as you have high pressure gas blowing through a tube.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 29 2020, @02:55AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 29 2020, @02:55AM (#976811) Journal
            The Hilsch tube is an intriguing machine - no moving parts and able to generate a substantial temperature difference. It also can be used for separation [wikipedia.org] of different density gases (the less dense components tend to go out the cold end), used for example, to separate uranium hexafluoride by uranium isotope.
      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday March 29 2020, @07:07AM

        by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 29 2020, @07:07AM (#976873) Journal

        You are aware that the service of those who do no actual work but constantly make decisions is always the most expensive? I don't think you could afford my services!

        --
        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
  • (Score: 2) by pkrasimirov on Saturday March 28 2020, @12:28PM (1 child)

    by pkrasimirov (3358) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 28 2020, @12:28PM (#976610)

    Very well explained. Thank you for sharing!

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Saturday March 28 2020, @03:00PM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Saturday March 28 2020, @03:00PM (#976648) Homepage
      You might also like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUjt36SD3h8 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLmpNM0sgYk from Fermilab
      --
      Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @12:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @12:43PM (#976614)

    Back in those innocent days, you didn't have to be uber-uber specialists.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @01:18PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @01:18PM (#976619)

    I didn't watch the video because of time constraints, but if it wasn't mentioned there, I will mention it here: the form of Maxwell's Equations which are quite compact and simple (using vectors) that we all use is due to Oliver Heavyside.

    He is someone who doesn't get nearly the recognition he deserves. I think only electrical engineers know who he is because he was one of them.

    • (Score: 2) by opinionated_science on Saturday March 28 2020, @02:41PM

      by opinionated_science (4031) on Saturday March 28 2020, @02:41PM (#976643)

      quite, Heaviside (Step Function) and LaPlace (Transform) are common tools in engineering space...

      I have visited the grave of the latter (LaPlace) in Paris...

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @04:18PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @04:18PM (#976666)

      Did they have the vector calculus notations during Maxwell's time? I know it's not just the notation convention.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @05:52PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @05:52PM (#976687)
      My understanding is that Heaviside simplified Maxwell's equations. This made them usable to less capable mathematicians, but something might have been lost:

      "Heaviside worked to eliminate the potentials (electric potential and magnetic potential) that Maxwell had used as the central concepts in his equations; this effort was somewhat controversial, though it was understood by 1884 that the potentials must propagate at the speed of light like the fields, unlike the concept of instantaneous action-at-a-distance like the then conception of gravitational potential." -- The term Maxwell's equations [wikipedia.org]

      Nikola Tesla promised us that one day our machinery would be powered by the very wheelwork of nature [abc.net.au], which I interpret as meaning that Tesla grokked Maxwell's original equations, and recognized the mistake in Heaviside's restatements.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @02:21PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 28 2020, @02:21PM (#976635)

    pshaw! a fancy symbol nobody understands (curl) and two constants and voila! lightspeed is a constant too.
    then again, duh, the pointer to go faster is right there in them equations: the two "other" constants and how we define/measure them.
    anyways, the whole fun (AND USEFULLNESS) probably would start if some moron would just explain that shitty symbol (curl) already.
    talking about maxwells equation without first explaining the curl operator is like hypeing the usefullness of whole numbers on the vegetable market but totally ignoring addition and subtraction.
    also, methinks the whole thing would be much easier explained with quaternions (yeah! DOOM) but i guess gimble lock is a thing that the "dream police" wants implemented rigorously.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday March 28 2020, @02:57PM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Saturday March 28 2020, @02:57PM (#976647) Homepage
      The symbol is "Del" not curl, or, typographically, a nabla. However, it's syntactic sugar, as "deldot" and "delcross" are in reality two completely different operators, viz. the divergence and the curl you mention.
      --
      Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 29 2020, @03:18AM (12 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 29 2020, @03:18AM (#976814) Journal

      also, methinks the whole thing would be much easier explained with quaternions

      It's just the same math no matter how you label it. You have two basic three dimensional vector bilinear operators, inner product and cross product (both which appear as components of quaternion multiplication). When you replace the first vector with a linear differential operator (of form (d/dx1, d/dx2, d/dx3)) acting on the second vector, you get divergence and curl respectively. These make more sense from a differential form [wikipedia.org] perspective. A k-form is basically a mathematical object that can be integrated over a k-dimension subspace (where in 3-dimensional space, k can be 0, 1, 2, or 3). 1-forms are analogous to differentiable vectors, 0-forms are just a differentiable function over the space and in 3 dimensions 2-form and 3-forms are duals which act as differentiable vectors and functions respectively. Gradient is a differential operator that takes a 0-form to a 1-form. Divergence takes a 2-form to a 3-form. And cross product takes a 1-form to a 2-form. You can effectively treat this as one single operator on all forms 0 through 3 with 3-forms zeroed out (similarly, there is a dual operator that goes in the opposite direction). It has the special property that applying it twice returns zero (same for the dual). Every form is zeroed out. This covers the usual identities: the curl of a gradient is zero or the divergence of a curl is zero.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday March 29 2020, @03:23AM (11 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 29 2020, @03:23AM (#976817) Journal

        And curl takes a 1-form to a 2-form.

        FTFM.

        • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Saturday April 04 2020, @01:08PM (10 children)

          by hendrikboom (1125) on Saturday April 04 2020, @01:08PM (#979017) Homepage Journal

          Correct. Cross-product takes *two* one-forms to a two-form.
          To convert that two-form to a one-form, thereby getting it into the same space as the original one-forms, you need an inner product.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday April 04 2020, @02:47PM (8 children)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 04 2020, @02:47PM (#979033) Journal

            To convert that two-form to a one-form, thereby getting it into the same space as the original one-forms, you need an inner product.

            Actually, it's curl again in dual form. Composing the dual curl on the curl yields the Laplacian of the original one form. There's a dual operator (which exists whenever the space is orientable - no Mobius strip-like switching of handedness), usually labeled "*" (with ** = identity), that maps 1-1 and onto k-forms to (3-k)-forms (for the 3-dimensional space case). That means among other things that one- and two-forms actually have the same dimension of 3. Taking "curl" to be the original curl, then the dual curl has form *curl*, and the resulting Laplacian (which ends up the sum of the second derivatives of each coordinate and takes k-forms to k-forms) on a one-form is (*curl*)curl. For the overall differential operator "d" (recall that dd = 0) that acts on all k-forms, the Laplacian is the sum of the two different ways one can compose d and its dual *d* (both which act on all k-forms) as (*d*)d + d(*d*).

            • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday April 05 2020, @01:12AM (7 children)

              by hendrikboom (1125) on Sunday April 05 2020, @01:12AM (#979206) Homepage Journal

              I am completely baffled why they didn't teach differential forms by third-year honours math or physics when I went to university. So much simpler than all these vector operations. And they work in other-dimensional spaces.

              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 05 2020, @01:44AM

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 05 2020, @01:44AM (#979219) Journal
                It's one of the great mistakes of teaching mathematics - I consider it worse than teaching trigonometry in high school.
              • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 05 2020, @01:48AM (5 children)

                by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 05 2020, @01:48AM (#979222) Journal
                As an aside, here's a link [archive.org] to the online version of Differential Forms: with Applications to the Physical Sciences (Harley Flanders 1963). Excellent starter book on the subject.
                • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday April 05 2020, @02:25AM (4 children)

                  by hendrikboom (1125) on Sunday April 05 2020, @02:25AM (#979241) Homepage Journal

                  Lovely book.

                  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday April 05 2020, @02:27AM (3 children)

                    by hendrikboom (1125) on Sunday April 05 2020, @02:27AM (#979244) Homepage Journal

                    Misner, Thorne and Wheeler have another introduction to differential forms in their massive tome "Gravitation". Of course there they use it on 3+1-dimensional spacetime.

                    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 05 2020, @02:55AM (2 children)

                      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 05 2020, @02:55AM (#979256) Journal
                      I have that as well. Don't like it as much. Much harder and doesn't do the math as well. But they cover a lot of major topics in general relativity.
                      • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday April 05 2020, @02:33PM (1 child)

                        by hendrikboom (1125) on Sunday April 05 2020, @02:33PM (#979377) Homepage Journal

                        But they figure out how to draw pictures of differential forms! Something I haven't seen elsewhere. Useful for those who think visually.

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday April 04 2020, @02:51PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 04 2020, @02:51PM (#979034) Journal
            Sorry, I see what you are asserting. Inner product would take two one-forms to a zero-form (or in the dual form, two two-forms to a three-form).
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