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posted by LaminatorX on Monday September 01 2014, @09:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the puttering-about dept.

Phoronix has an article up about some interesting ideas of Lennart Poettering about what could be a possible future for Linux:

Lennart Poettering of systemd and PulseAudio fame has published a lengthy blog post that shares his vision for how he wishes to change how Linux software systems are put together to address a wide variety of issues. The Btrfs file-system and systemd play big roles with his new vision. Long story short, Lennart is trying to tackle how Linux distributions and software systems themselves are assembled to improve security, deal with the challenges of upstream software vendors integrating into many different distributions, and "the classic Linux distribution scheme is frequently not what end users want."

 
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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by frojack on Monday September 01 2014, @11:47PM

    by frojack (1554) on Monday September 01 2014, @11:47PM (#88259) Journal

    Still, I hate to see BTRFS getting tared with the brush reserved for SystemD.

    BTRFS is stable, reliable and has a lot going for it. Its a Btree-based file system similar to ResiserFS but significantly improved performance and reliability and built in snapshot capability. Opensuse is moving toward it as the default in future releases.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 01 2014, @11:57PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 01 2014, @11:57PM (#88265)

    Fair point. If I were involved in BTRFS, I'd be furious enough to puke blood. We can probably expect Lennart to fork it and integrate an incompatible branch right into systemd.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 02 2014, @01:18AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 02 2014, @01:18AM (#88309)

      The btrfs developers need to go on the offensive now. They need to make it publically clear that they do not support systemd, that they do not support anyone advocating for the use of systemd, and that they are not in favor of any sort of integration between systemd and btrfs. They need to put an end to these shenanigans before they even begin, solely for the good of btrfs.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Marand on Tuesday September 02 2014, @12:03AM

    by Marand (1081) on Tuesday September 02 2014, @12:03AM (#88266) Journal

    Still, I hate to see BTRFS getting tared with the brush reserved for SystemD.

    I think that's inevitable considering it was an Oracle project in the first place. That's going to damn it in the opinion of a lot of people no matter what its merits may be. Poettering advocating it is small-time compared to the hate people have for Oracle.

    Personally, I have no opinion on btrfs, because I'm extremely conservative with my use of filesystems; I have a tendency to hit obscure bugs in software due to niche use cases, and I'd rather not tempt fate with immature filesystems. I'm still using ext3 and XFS, though I'll be switching to ext4 for the next update I do. By the time btrfs is on my radar, they'll be working on btrfs2 :P

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by frojack on Tuesday September 02 2014, @01:12AM

      by frojack (1554) on Tuesday September 02 2014, @01:12AM (#88304) Journal

      Actually it started well before Oracle got involved.
      They paid the salary of some developers, true. If you want to toss out all of Oracle's contributions to Linux just because they are Oracle you would end up doing serious damage. The principal implementers came from Suse, had worked on ZFS, and ReiserFS (for suse), and went to work at Oracle and was given free reigns to develop the system.

      Btrfs is a true open source project - not just in the license, but also in the community.
      http://lwn.net/Articles/342892/ [lwn.net]

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  • (Score: 1) by nishi.b on Tuesday September 02 2014, @02:37PM

    by nishi.b (4243) on Tuesday September 02 2014, @02:37PM (#88509)

    Right with you on this.
    I hope to use Btrfs and its snapshots, checksums and all.
    Reading LP's projects to use hundreds of subvolumes means it will be such a mess that I won't know what I am using, which subvolumes I need to backup...
    And he says ext4 will be supported... by putting btrfs filesystems in a loop file !
    Please keep this on ONE distribution if this feature-set is right for you but do not push this everywhere...

  • (Score: 2) by nukkel on Tuesday September 02 2014, @08:44PM

    by nukkel (168) on Tuesday September 02 2014, @08:44PM (#88635)

    btrfs is good, but ReiserFS is a real killer!!