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Phoronix has an article up about some interesting ideas of Lennart Poettering about what could be a possible future for Linux:
Lennart Poettering of systemd and PulseAudio fame has published a lengthy blog post that shares his vision for how he wishes to change how Linux software systems are put together to address a wide variety of issues. The Btrfs file-system and systemd play big roles with his new vision. Long story short, Lennart is trying to tackle how Linux distributions and software systems themselves are assembled to improve security, deal with the challenges of upstream software vendors integrating into many different distributions, and "the classic Linux distribution scheme is frequently not what end users want."
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by jasassin on Monday September 01 2014, @11:48PM
I'm sick of this shit. If logs aren't that great, improve syslogd... Mounting works fine. Booting works fine. These features are solutions looking for a problem. Fuck you systemd you are a cancer to the Unix philosophy of do one thing and do it well.
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(Score: 2) by evilviper on Tuesday September 02 2014, @08:47AM
Are you kidding? Every distro and desktop environment out there is tacking on auto-mounting hacks, as well as permission-granting on storage/scanner/printer/etc. devices, all to give desktop users a straight-forward experience they would expect, rather than needing to know the cryptic ins and outs of checking dmesg and fstab to even tell what and where you need to go.
And how about WiFi? How about USB and network-connected TV tuners? The world has gotten complicated, and Linux just keeps getting a series of crazy, disjointed and dead-end hacks that keep getting duplicate effort, and still replaced after a few years as their limitations are demonstrated.
There's very much a need out there. I don't care if it's systemd or something else, but so far, I haven't seen anything else that addresses the problems.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 02 2014, @10:00AM
Every distro and desktop environment out there is tacking on auto-mounting hacks...
Which is the reason we have distros in the first place, and should be of no concern to you.
Project maintainers make software packages work. Distro maintainers make these packages work together. Users use the result. Everyone happy. Except Lennart and his employer, that is.
And how about WiFi? How about USB and network-connected TV tuners? The world has gotten complicated, and Linux just keeps getting a series of crazy, disjointed and dead-end hacks that keep getting duplicate effort, and still replaced after a few years as their limitations are demonstrated.
This is called evolution. Windows and Mac had their share of dead-end technologies, but no one was running around in circles claiming imminent doom. Which is just as well because any catastrophe failed to materialize.
There's very much a need out there. I don't care if it's systemd or something else, but so far, I haven't seen anything else that addresses the problems.
And as soon as it grows into enough of a problem to get noticeable, and worth the effort to really fix, a number of competing solutions will appear. As they always have. Without some corp cramming its monopoly into everyone's throat.
(Score: 2) by evilviper on Tuesday September 02 2014, @11:51AM
It's very much a concern of mine. Every time something that affects functionality gets significant changes, I have to figure out EXACTLY how it works, and I certainly have to know the ins and outs between the major distros. I'm not just an end user with a couple Linux boxes.
Your belief in the magical Linux/OSS fairy is misplaced. The world doesn't work that way. I know that from experience. You're welcome to sit back and let others work it out, but they've all decided to go with systemd.
There have been several patchwork half-measure solutions before. systemd isn't the first, and it has had to compete with upstart and several others. It's just that every major distro out there decided systemd wins. Just because it has a few noisy detractors, doesn't mean there's something wrong with it.
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