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Bad enough that Soylent Eds would continue their standard procedure of censoring aristarchus submissions, but when it is a matter of life and death? The stories on the complete Snake Oil salesmanship of the Impeached President and his Really Stupid controllers on Faux News, promoting a totally ineffective and actually contra-indicated drug, the Hydroxychloroquine fake, needs to be reported immediately, lest more unnecessarily die. Journalistic integrity, over rightwing wacko TMB "I smoke" crap, PLEASE. Or, nothing will be left of SoylentNews, but the TMB, the Runaway, and the APK. Sickness, contagion, alt-right bullshit, janrinok's complacency. You know what cures Covid-19? Lockdowns and testing. That is the only thing. If you think different, you are a threat to public safety, and if you are protesting carrying a weapon, you should be shot on sight. With bullets dipped in corona virus, you stupid patsy of right-wing corporate astroturfing bastardly farks!
Rejected submission on French study
Not accepted submission on VA study
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @07:37AM (38 children)
It is interesting after weeks of the President and right-wing news claiming over and over again how good these were, that they all stop at the same time. I had members of my own family that had gone on at length about the drugs is as if they were medical researchers published in the Lancet. Now silence. I even had the one that mentioned it the most deny that she knew what I was talking about when I mentioned it yesterday, that she had ever mentioned it in conversation and that I must have imagined her attempts to doctor shop for it. I literally had to ask my spouse to double check I wasn't crazy.
(Score: 1) by petecox on Thursday April 23 2020, @10:32AM (6 children)
All based on a paper in January(?) by mainland medics claiming this anti-malarial showed positive signs of treatment.
In this era of #fakenews you'd think western governments would peer-review research before announcing to the world a miracle cure.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:12PM (5 children)
Not only pushing an untested cure but silencing anybody who pointed out that fact.
Top Government Vaccine Expert Fired for Questioning Trump’s Fake (Hydroxychloroquine) Science [nymag.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:38PM (4 children)
LOL [twitter.com]
(Score: 3, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:58PM (3 children)
LOL indeed. Anonymous sources have been made great again, apparently.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:30PM (2 children)
As have been all those people that are familiar with the matter that American media depends on so heavily. And let's not forget that rumor spreading chump that triggered your famous impeachment theater.
And now you have a president that is guilty of negligent homicide and reckless endangerment, at least.. Why isn't he being impeached for that? Maybe because of the outright complicity of his "antagonists"?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @11:39PM (1 child)
"And now you have a president that is guilty of negligent homicide and reckless endangerment, at least.. Why isn't he being impeached for that? Maybe because of the outright complicity of his "antagonists"?"
Or, could it possibly be because Democrats know that they don't have the votes in a Republican-controlled Senate to convict? Do you think that might have anything to do with their "complicity"? Seriously, what would be the point of having another impeachment trial when it is all but certain that Republicans in the Senate won't convict Trump, no matter what he does or says?
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @07:33PM
Then why did they do it the first time? What did they expect to be different? It's all a bullshit distraction, from their own complicity. Discovery would have proven it. That's why it was dominated by bullshit hearsay.
With all the free time available, people should be seeking out alternatives to clean out the house and a bit of the senate. Then it won't matter who is president, congress can override anything he vetoes. Reelecting the very same people from the last decade that caused Trump to rise to the top and keep him there will not help.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday April 23 2020, @02:52PM (25 children)
It's a bit harder to memory hole some bullshit on a text based forum.
Some pretty well aged posts in this one for example!
Trump's financial interest in producer of hydroxychloroquine [soylentnews.org]
I'm sure Sulla and Buzzard are going to admit they were wrong any minute now...
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:17PM (18 children)
Yes, Trump is a thief and a murderer. So what? We all knew that since the 80s.
The much sadder state of affairs is the feeble, inept, damn near nonexistent, corrupt in its own right "opposition". Bunch of tribal savages!
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:20PM (5 children)
Do you think Obama would have put a fucking dog breeder in charge of the coronavirus response?
Only the best people!
Special Report: Former Labradoodle breeder was tapped to lead U.S. pandemic task force [reuters.com]
(Score: 2, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:00PM (2 children)
Well, hell no! Obama would have put a fellow community organizer in charge of covid! Someone who could bring everyone together and - uhhhh - oops.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:15PM (1 child)
No need to hypothesize. We all watched his successful response to Ebola.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:19PM
Covid-19 isn't Trump's fault
Ebola wasn't Obama's fault
SARS03 wasn't Bush's fault
Herpes, ask Monica Lewinsky...
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @11:18PM
It doesn't matter what Obama would have done. What he did do was make it easy for the republicans to win. Trump won the election, because the democrats didn't put up anybody worth voting for, because they are complicit in everything they accuse the republicans of. They were hoping to win through the scandal sheets. Funny how they look for absolution because they aren't the mastermind. So they say...
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @05:21AM
It's interesting to consider... This [wikipedia.org] is who Obama appointed to head the food division of the FDA, creating a special role exclusively for him that didn't even exist before. A Monsanto lawyer and public relations guy whose most famous for arguing (on behalf of Monsanto and a handful of other companies his firm was representing) that companies should be allowed to knowingly include at least a small amount of carcinogens into processed foods.
Yip, that guy was in charge of food safety in the US for the better part of a decade. But I guess it turned out alright. I mean look how physically and generally physiologically fit and healthy Americans are.
You are the perfect example of how partisanship rots the brain. You only read negative things of those you disagree with, and only read positive things of those you agree with. And you end up about as politically well (and accurately) informed as a toddler. Both major parties in the US are corrupt to the core. It's only by getting their useful idiots to focus on the other side that they manage to remain in power indefinitely. Make people hate and fear the 'other side', and you could get a corpse elected so long as you claim he's on your side.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:53PM (11 children)
His big problem is having left the democrat party.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:10PM (9 children)
But he didn't! He is doing their dirty work for them!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:58PM (8 children)
OoooOoooOooHHHHhHhHHh
THAT is how the morons are gonna spin Trump after they get raked over the coals some more. Once he is out of power they will turn on him, claim the tens of thousands, hundreds?, of preventable deaths from C19 were part of the Democrat plot to kill off the gullible lockdown protesters who shockingly are Repubicans.
What a time to be alive, weaponized stupidity taken to new heights.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:39PM (7 children)
Trump is a democrat, always has been, still is. The republican brand exists for theatrics, nothing more. Trump is exploiting dumbass republican voters. They are a very soft target, as you can see by the support he receives. Too fucking easy!
Back in the past, he and Hillary worked together to keep each other out of jail. That was her job as senator.
Corrupt to the bone these bastards, and the people that vote for them too!
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:43PM (6 children)
Nice try Mitch McTurtle! Trying to spin the GOP traitors as the real freedom fighters.
God I hate you lying assholes, may you disappear up your own buttholes.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @06:16PM (5 children)
Well there ya go! Your post is the perfect illustration confirming the dumbassery of the savage who sees any criticism of their god as enemy propaganda. It works so perfectly in both directions!
thankyouverymuch
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @06:58PM (4 children)
Just highlighting your trolling, thanksverymuchforconfirming.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @07:19PM (3 children)
Just highlighting your trolling
You're a democrat. Of course you would call it "trolling". Anybody that pokes holes in your facade is defined as a troll in your dictionary. It's a reflexive reaction.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @06:08AM
Ok Doomer
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @02:01PM (1 child)
Democrats on parade with their mod points. Insufferable fascists they are! That's what makes a hundred million others wanna vote republican. Either way they win and you dumbasses lose, dragging the whole world down with you. You people are a sorrowful bunch! For the benefit of the rest of the universe, let's hope humans never get off the planet to spread their violence and stupidity
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @10:40PM
"Pray we do not mod you further." [Labored breathing] Snowflack! Here, have some "safe space" miracle cure!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @01:43AM
Who? There's the Republican Party [gop.com] and the Democratic [democrats.org] Party, but as far as I'm aware, there is no such thing as the "democrat party."
I have heard some folk erroneously calling the Democratic Party the "democrat party," which could refer to a group whose members are also members of the Democratic Party rather than the party itself as an organization.
Which often makes me wonder if the incorrect usage is through ignorance/laziness, or is an affectation making the incorrect usage an implied attempt at diminution of the Democratic Party.
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:13PM (5 children)
They only admit to being wrong when it doesn't make them look like stupid assholes.
You can see even when admitting he was wrong he has to make tons of excuses and spread the blame on to his "enemies" https://soylentnews.org/~The+Mighty+Buzzard/journal/4932 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 0, Troll) by Sulla on Thursday April 23 2020, @07:18PM (4 children)
How much money do you stand to make on hydroxyetc working? If you have any investment in pharma, you are going to make big bucks. You might even be lucky like Trump to make almost $200 on the stock increase.
The media has been pushing the Brazil study as proof that hydroxy doesn't work, yet they didn't use that. They used chloroquine at DOUBLE the dose that is being tested in the US. The 12 day dose of 200mg twice a day of Hydroxy is extremely low risk, it is ZERO risk if you have EKG during the process to check for underlying heart issues, particularly arrhythmia.
https://www.dw.com/en/chloroquine-is-ineffective-and-dangerous/a-53188219 [dw.com]
So patients started noticing arrhythmia noticed issues in two to three days on the high dose, if issues showed up before a dose was given on day two they already have had 1200mg and if on day three 2400mg. Deaths occurred after 6000mg (if before dose given on that 11th day). Chloroquine is more toxic than the Hydroxy which is interesting to note, so the dosage comparisons are a little off, the Brazil being more than twice as dangerous just off raw dosage but not taking the difference in drug toxicity into account.
A patient in the US would receive a total of 2100 mg across the ENTIRE treatment. In the US the heart condition is also checked so people with risk of heart complications to reduce the risk of adverse reactions.
Hydroxy in a monitored environment is safe
https://reference.medscape.com/drug/plaquenil-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-343205 [medscape.com]
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/hydroxychloroquine-oral-route/proper-use/drg-20064216 [mayoclinic.org]
TLDR you want Hydroxychloroquine to fail so that Trump looks bad. You are rooting for death. Fuck you.
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @07:42PM (1 child)
You're an idiot. I don't want anything to fail, but I do want Trump to stop spreading bad advice that literally caused a death.
You are supporting death, fuck you and the stupid trumptrain you keep riding. Death cultist twat, but too stupid to realize it :P
On a tangent - https://www.pv-magazine.com/2020/04/22/sweden-exits-coal-two-years-early/ [pv-magazine.com]
Thankfully other countries aren't stuck crafting safe spaces for stupid conservatives. Remind me again how that clean Trump coal is going?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:17PM
Good thing the Brazil study isn't the only one. There are many more like this one [medrxiv.org]
(Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Friday April 24 2020, @10:42PM (1 child)
Back at 'cha, Sulla! When did you first realize you have become a Death-eating Republican?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @06:15AM
Sulla may check back in when he sobers up. That may not be until after May 30, when the lockdown ends in Oregon. His wife may keep him locked in the basement until after November, however, for public safety.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:08PM (1 child)
And - how many times have you forced your spouse to double check again, despite all the doctors who confirm you are crazy?
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @03:49AM
You obviously aren't married. When I am the crazy one, that information is volunteered. No forcing of any kind necessary.
(Score: 1) by Sulla on Thursday April 23 2020, @07:22PM (2 children)
Speaking of the Lancet...
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30296-6/fulltext [thelancet.com]
Full text sans references
Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:19PM (1 child)
And here is the BMJ
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:36PM
Much less risk of mechanical ventilation, when you are DEAD! Ah, I love the smell of medical research on SoylentNews in the Morning.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @10:39AM
Aristarchus is too busy chugging anti coagulants [nih.gov] to admit that most people suggested HCQ holds promise as a prophylactic. Promotion of HCQ as curative for COVID-19 didn't originate with Donald Trump, "it came from Chyna" [thediplomat.com] while clinical trials were for use as a theraputic.
Ahh, Dr Aristarchus has cured the incurable and would never give incomplete advice unlike that evil Donald Trump. You don't propose a cure, you propose containment and the requirement is limiting spread between populations. You can no more produce an epidemiological model halting the spread of COVID-19 while allowing movement between populations than you could for AIDS while making everyone that comes within a 5 mile radius of the local sex worker bareback them.
In summary, Aristarchus supports immigration bans [cnn.com] and openly admits China (or Shi Zhengli at least) lied by suggesting HCQ may be a serious candidate for in-vivo curative treatment of COVID-19.
Join us next week for another exciting episode of "Aristarchus Reacts" when he'll be looking at racial disparities in crime statistics...
(Score: 2, Insightful) by drussell on Thursday April 23 2020, @11:49AM (25 children)
Declining to publish poor quality submissions is not the same thing as censorship.
You still refuse to grok that.... :)
(Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:16PM (19 children)
Or, and bear with me here, informing people of the rightwing disinformation campaigns and alt-right neo-nazi plots would have helped stop some of the craycray going on right now.
We have a massive split in the US due to these bad actors spreading lies, and the SN powers-that-be prefer to not address reality. At LEAST they stopped accepting the actual alt-right garbage as well.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:50PM (12 children)
We have a massive split in the US due to these bad actors spreading lies
That's bullshit! You have a massive split in the US due to so many dumbasses believing lies without checking them out first. The audience is to blame for being gullible and capricious fools. They are the foot soldiers of your idiocracy
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @07:03PM (4 children)
"your idiocracy"
Oh, so you aren't from the US? Fuck off then, we have enough turds meddling with our elections as is.
(Score: 0, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @07:29PM (3 children)
Oh, so you aren't from the US?
Ah, you gossipy fools are so fun to watch! More and more you clarify why Trump wins!
we have enough turds meddling with our elections as is.
Yeah, in your mirror! Look at the shit you people reelect for 40 years!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @07:39PM (2 children)
Oooh noice! A wild trumptroll. If only I had a pokeball to catch you with, then we could open a zoo.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:36PM (1 child)
Play your silly games all you want. Just remember, Trump is still president. You played, and still play a big part in making that happen. An now you seem to want him to be reelected instead of seeking out somebody to undo it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @01:13AM
Not really. Still impeached person occupying White House without either paying rent, or doing the job.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 24 2020, @01:45PM (6 children)
So you don't think the people deliberately sowing lies and chaos have *any* blame at all? Jesus.
Let me guess, all those nationstate hackers are completely innocent, it's our fault because our firewalls suck...?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @02:21PM (5 children)
So you don't think the people deliberately sowing lies and chaos have *any* blame at all?
Of course they don't! All the damage is caused by the morons that believe and follow them. Don't be an idiot. The audience is responsible for the actions they take. Until you acknowledge the truth, you will be forever stagnant in monkey see monkey do.
Remember, babe, *Sticks and stones...* is an absolute truth, impenetrable by your human frailties. Words don't even have the force of a feather. They have less mass than an electron. Everything depends on what you DO! Not what you say
Jesus.
saves! I notice you frequently call on the religion you deny. That's very interesting. I would like to hear what a real therapist thinks about that. Why don't you visit one and tell us about it? I would be far more interesting than your stupid rants
(Score: 2) by catholocism on Friday April 24 2020, @02:59PM (1 child)
Victim blaming is gross. Grow up.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @03:39PM
Quit playing the victim card. Grow up yourself!
The voters are complicit, not victims. They just try to vote themselves a bigger slice of the pie, just as corrupt as the people they elect. In fact, the politician is the mirror of corruption, not the beacon.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday April 25 2020, @12:17AM (2 children)
All I took from that is "ignore me, I'm willfully stupid *and* a moral retard." Which is not shocking news, in your case, but still.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @08:55PM (1 child)
All I took from that is "ignore me, I'm willfully stupid *and* a moral retard."
Yes, of course that's all you would take! You suffer from various psychoses, denial being one of them. So in your usual fashion, you can do nothing but fling poo.
You still have time in this life to learn your lessons. The choice is yours.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @10:07PM
So, fellow AC, you are saying you are going to remain willfully stupid and morally retrograde?
(Score: 2) by drussell on Friday April 24 2020, @12:29AM (5 children)
What does that have to do with my original comment?
I don't think we're on the same page here, somehow...
It sounds like I mostly agree with what you're saying so I think you must be misunderstanding me somehow?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @01:26AM (4 children)
Fair enough, Aristarchus does tend to submit a lot of stories that truly should be rejected. However, he gets so much shit and so many reasonable stories have been rejected over the years while alt-right clickbait has gotten through.
So blanket criticizing Aristarchus gets a similar blanket stereotyping :D
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday April 24 2020, @06:03AM (3 children)
Thank you, AC! I love you too! And stay away from the snake oil, but Rock your masK! Whoohoo! Trump has dementia. Republican dementia, the worst kind.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @06:11AM
So I'm sensing sarcasm... you should know /s is required when communicating via text :P
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @11:12AM (1 child)
Better than Joe Biden's advanced dementia. No contest.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @12:48AM
There is a difference between senior moments and "Malarkey", and recommending people inject lysol or stick UV lamps up their butts.
(Score: 2) by drussell on Friday April 24 2020, @12:26AM (3 children)
Interesting mod points on that one... From +3 Insightful, now all the way down to Troll. Fascinating.
Offtopic=1, Troll=1, Redundant=1, Insightful=2
I didn't think original comment was off-topic or redundant, and it certainly wasn't meant to troll.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @01:16AM
Added a -1 Flamebait, since you seemed disappointed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @08:15AM (1 child)
I did a +1 interesting. Let's see if we can get a full set.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @08:20PM
Mods are NOT Pokemon, Man!!
(Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Friday April 24 2020, @09:26AM
Grok it quite well. You mistake my purpose, and you are part of the problem. You mean, like this?
Poor editors! They never think it appropriate to correct anything, so they just post alt-right talking points and racist dogwhistles unawares. So sad. And the ONE TIME I put in a Brietvarf link, I get dinged for it? If only Runaway were so lucky. 50,000. Americans dead. It could have been less. Perhaps it will be more. And these Grifter Dorr Bros. are endangering more? More than the hydoxychlorolysoluptheanus cure being hawked by an total idiot of a snake oil salesman? And Janrinok has the Hubris, the Gall, the UPPITINESS, to reject my submission, just because, you know, some levels of incompetence make me get all emotional.
Original rejected submission: https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=40601 [soylentnews.org]
Prior rejected submission: https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl?op=viewsub&subid=40571 [soylentnews.org]
Stay tuned for more rejected submissions. How much the Dorr boys paying you all, through The Mercenary Busstard, anyways?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by drussell on Thursday April 23 2020, @12:18PM (32 children)
The astounding part in all this is that there is such a large part of the US population who still apparently steadfastly believe whatever the anointed one, "dear Leader" and reversed quasi-state-TV tell them to believe without even trying to figure out if what is being said even makes sense, let alone being rational. That is downright scary.
I'm sure if you do the traditional "follow-the-money", there will be good reasons that Fox was recklessly pushing for a run on Hydroxychloroquine sales, despite the fact that there was as yet no actual indication that it had any actual benefit. People want to believe it will work; that something will work for a quick-fix. Anyone looking from a science-based facts and data perspective saw that. People who desperately just want to believe life will soon return to the normal of the past will want to believe whatever sugar-coated nonsense is sent their way if it makes them feel better for a moment, instead of having to actually face the inevitable reality.
A good leader provides accurate, provable information, inspires and gives real hope when faced with a challenge rather than spread misinformation and lies, giving false hope at the worst possible time.
Unfortuately for the US, that light that Donald Trump keeps saying that he sees at the end of the tunnel, quickly getting "bigly" brighter isn't actually the end of the tunnel. It is the oncoming speeding train with no brakes, probably consisting mostly of tank cars filled with a mix of mystery flammable hazardous unknown contents because after so helpfully stripping out every regulation passed by previous administrations, nobody actually needed to file any paperwork about what is actually on that train... because, well... profit! but I digress...
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 23 2020, @01:31PM (4 children)
There is no good reason for this other than "mob dynamics." The collective intelligence of a mob is the median IQ minus the square root of the number of shoes in it.
This pandemic isn't actually doing any fundamental damage to our institutions; it's exposing what's been done over the last 40+ years.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:11PM
it's exposing what's been done over the last 40+ years.
The fuse was lit on November 22, 1963
(Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @05:31AM (2 children)
No the simple and accurate reason for this is because both parties, the media, and others have gradually been working to destroy critical thinking in Americans.
Another example of this was with the 'official recommendation' that healthy people need not wear masks. That was ridiculous and clearly poor advice probably geared towards trying to maintain control of mask supplies. But people bought it up, because they no longer think. Masks don't work to prevent 100% of viral size particles (or anywhere near that) but they do provide much more than 0 protection. And similarly we've known about asymptomatic carriers since about 2 months into this pandemic, and so people wearing masks also helps work as a protective for others by also reducing the particulate emissions of asymptomatic carriers.
People need to start thinking for themselves. Everybody realizes this when its 'the other side' making dubious recommendations, but then line up like sheep when its their anointed ones making said dubious recommendations.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @06:21AM (1 child)
"And similarly we've known about asymptomatic carriers since about 2 months into this pandemic, and so people wearing masks also helps work as a protective for others by also reducing the particulate emissions of asymptomatic carriers."
This is the important part.
We all rely on information transmitted by others, what we really need to do is try and support factual information. When you have media networks spreading factually incorrect information there should be regulation.
We used to have the fairness doctrine which forced media to provide a platform for contrasting opinions. The repeal of that has led to easy misinformation campaigns where so much bullshit is thrown at the wall it sometimes overwhelms the truth.
Back to the masks, the main component is prevent breaths, coughs, and sneezes from spreading out for 5-20 feet from infected persons. Wetting the mask also helps increase capture of virus particles when inhaling a tiny bit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @06:16PM
What you're saying is true, with a nuance. It's not just the defensive mechanism. Masks really do do a surprisingly good job of stopping particulate matter. This [bmj.com] paper is highly relevant. That paper tested particulate sizes all the way down to 0.007 microns with the most common particles being around 0.1 micron! The current coronavirus particles are from 0.05 - 0.2 microns in size.
But the most important point also here is that those tests were about pollution and so the 'low' volume study was a 30 minute test at a flow rate of 40L/min! You'd only get that sort of exposure if you were in a tiny room surrounded only by infected folks all running on a treadmill and breathing out at you from about 2 feet away. In practice, flow rates are obviously a minuscule fraction of that and the masks effectiveness increased the lower the flow rates. The long and short of that is that the masks do provide significant protection. It's not perfect of course, but it is *way* better than nothing.
Incidentally it's the same thing with pollution in general. Many people think that if e.g. you're concerned about PM2.5 (2.5micron) then you need a mask with a comparable or smaller diameter. In practice that is not true. Better masks obviously work better, but anything works *much* better than nothing. There is also the current 'viral load hypothesis' related to this virus suggesting that there may indeed be a difference in outcome depending on your exact exposure level. Doesn't sound so shocking of course, but I think we all kind of intuitively view these things in binary.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:16PM (26 children)
That, right there. Ever since we heard "Wuhan" in the news, I personally hear "possible cure", and I really do want to believe that it will be the quick-fix. I'm honest enough to recognize that, and I'm also honest enough to know that if my own life is slipping away, I'll be willing to try just about any "experimental" treatment offered.
What I don't recall hearing, are any number of people asserting that hydroxychloroquine really was that cure. Yeah, some nobody from nowhere, and some yokel from elsewhere, but no appreciable number of credible people.
And, no, Trump would never be a credible person in regards to medical advice. Not even the most die-hard Trump fan can believe that to be true!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:23PM (24 children)
Why yes, it is a shame that the President of the United States of America is not a credible person.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday April 23 2020, @03:48PM (23 children)
So, uhhhm, can you remember the last president who was actually credible? Or, even a presidential candidate who was credible? The most credible hopefuls are weeded out early in the primaries, for the most part, and only incredible buffoons are left at nomination time. How is Tulsi's bid for the presidency coming along? Or, even Bernie? Who is left, again? Creepy Joe? He is a small - very small - step up from Hillary. And, a small step down from O'Bummer. All things considered, it's hard to decide whether O'Bummer or the Trumpster is the better president.
We need another Eisenhower. He was credible!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:00PM (1 child)
I remember Obama relying on the experts when it came to Ebola. So, yes, I do remember a credible president.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:03PM
But what about my bullshit?
(Score: 5, Interesting) by cmdrklarg on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:59PM (13 children)
It is apparent that you suffer from ODS if you can't tell that Obama was orders of magnitude more credible than Trump. Trump is a boss; Obama was a leader. https://www.lifehack.org/287785/10-differences-between-boss-and-real-leader [lifehack.org]
Ike was before my time, but the more I read about him the more I find myself agreeing with his policies. He disliked both the far left and the far right. The current GOP would probably call Ike a filthy socialist.
I would be a GOP supporter if they had people like him in charge.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 1, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:30PM (5 children)
Define "leadership", please, then we might discuss a boss vs leader.
I'm headed to bed, but I'll be checking on any possible answers here in a few hours. ;^)
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @04:20AM
You fucking idiot, Runaway! You spent your entire convalenscese playing video games! You even blogged about it under this very same username, you fool and idiot! And Now you tell us, you do not know what a Boss is? My gawd, you are stupid! But, wait, no one could be that stupid, unless they were insane! Or lying. But no one would lie in such an easily detectable fashion, unless they were a child, or insane. Well that narrows down our possibility. I salute your employer, Mr. Runaway. So nice he provides jobs for the insane, even though it probably hurts the bottom line. Fucking insane Runaway! Tell us again about the anchor babies, and birthright citizen boats, and the Muslins that threaten the great Lindsey-Woolsy traditions of the traitors to the Nation which was the Confederate South, you insane pig-fucker!!!! (Oh,btw, "pig fucker" is actually a real job, in the logging industry. They guy who collects all the chokers and stuffs them into a hollow log (the "pig") to be winched back up the slope, is called the "pig fucker". Doubt the Runaway had any such real job involving physical ability, thought. Shifting the transaxle is about all he managed, and in his day, probably an automatic. )
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Friday April 24 2020, @01:41PM (3 children)
Read the link I posted before. If you can't honestly see the difference then I'll assume that you have ODS as well.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday April 24 2020, @02:30PM (2 children)
Sorry, that link is rather lame, written by someone who does NOT know what leadership is. The author thinks that a leader is a "nice guy" or some such shit.
The US Navy and Princeton have developed an in depth course, titled "Leadership and Management Effectiveness Training". The course begins at mid-level petty officer ranks, and goes up to university levels that officers are required to attend. I believe that jointly, they have come up with the best working definition of leadership, ever.
Leadership is the art of motivating people to do that which they should do anyway.
There is nothing about "nice guys" anywhere in the course. In fact, many leaders are sons of bitches, that you don't even want to know. If you want, or need, nice guys, you may find them among the ranks of leaders, but don't count on it. Being a leader doesn't preclude you being a nice guy, of course - some are the nicest people you could ever hope to meet.
That said, we haven't had a leader in the White House in a long, long time. We haven't had many leaders in congress, or in the Senate, either.
I will give you that Obama does have some leadership traits. More than Trump, and maybe more than Bush, but he wouldn't be recognized as a leader by LMET students.
Want to know what a REAL leader would do with the presidency? Want to know what a bunch of REAL leaders would do in the Senate and in congress? They would unite America. They might even go so far as to unite the US and much of the world.
The bunch of grab-ass fuckwads we have had for the past several administrations have done nothing more successfully than to DIVIDE America. Identity politics is the best that the supposedly "liberal" party can give us?
Somehow, I would have expected you know what leadership really is. It sure ain't The Feelz.
Military leaders can gather together a thousand people who hate and loathe each other, and weld them into a cohesive unit with a common mission. You show me a president, a congressman, or a senator in recent times who can claim to have done such a thing.
I'll leave you with that opening, LOL. Make the most of it.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @10:51PM
Neither the US Navy, nor the DOD, nor the VA, have any record of a "Runaway1956" having served in any capacity in the US military. Runaway is lying, again. Any sailor can tell he has no idea what being In the Navy is really like. Stolen Valor! At least he's not going the "Spatial Forces" route. Special, in the "Spatial Force". Space cadets. Leadership, from an idiot Trump follower?
Faux News viewer? Ha! Would be funny, if not so pathetic.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Monday April 27 2020, @06:44PM
Leadership is not about being "a nice guy". It's about getting people to follow you.
Yeah, you can always bully someone into doing what you want, but a real leader will convince you that you want to do this. Would you rather have a bully boss? Or would you prefer a real leader?
Leadership is about "the feelz". It's about getting more flies with honey than vinegar. It's about using the carrot instead of the stick.
Without knowing more about LMET, the only comment that I will make is that while it may be effective for military use, it may not be suitable for civilian application.
It is good that you see that Obama was more of a leader than the current POTUS. I don't know if I agree about Bush being worse. I think he was an effective leader, even if I didn't like where he was leading.
We could definitely use "real leaders". Too bad no one can agree on who they are.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by khallow on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:38PM (6 children)
Like when Obama voted for FISA following receiving the nomination and "triangulating towards the center"? Zero is a few orders of magnitude more credible than zero.
(Score: 2) by cmdrklarg on Thursday April 23 2020, @09:36PM
Yep, ODS. Just like TDS, just a different POTUS.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Friday April 24 2020, @06:07AM (4 children)
Khallow, no body likes you, or trusts you. You argue in bad faith, and right now you are engaged in the lowest form of ignorantio elenchi, or "whataboutism. Please, do not comment in my journals anymore, khallow. You contribute nothing to the discussion, and only embarrass yourself. Shut up, khallow.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @08:21AM (1 child)
I disagree with his politics, but he certainly doesn't argue in bad faith. You just have to understand his ethical position. "Those with lots of money or power are in the right, you poor peasants should be grateful to serve."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @04:36PM
Hmm, bad faith is hard to say, but logic and reason quite often go out the window with him. He tries to sound reasonable most of the time so it can be hard to catch when he goes totally off the rails. You have to push the boundaries of his faith in capitalism by pushing him into an illogical corner, then you see the crazy side. Still, he rarely shows emotion in a discussion which is the conservative's favorite method of appearing to win. "See, they're getting all emotional, they're unhinged and craAaAaaAzzyYyyY."
(Score: 1, Informative) by khallow on Friday April 24 2020, @12:25PM (1 child)
Just because Obama didn't tweet doesn't mean he's more honest than Trump. Obama's lies were bigger and longer duration.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @02:57AM
Yes, khallow! Feel the power of the Dank Syde flow through your veins! Strike Ari down, khallow, and you can be Trump's next Chief of Staffs.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:10PM (6 children)
"All things considered, it's hard to decide whether O'Bummer or the Trumpster is the better president."
Just when it looks like you're achieving a glimmer of realization you swing back hard into crazytown. I guess it is due to the fact that you think dismantling important government agencies is "good" or something, or that you have simply ignored every instance of Trump's shitty policies and behavior as "FAKE NOOZE TDEEESS!"
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:28PM (5 children)
Remember Obamacare? We will all be paying for Obama's gift to the insurance companies for the rest of our lives. That was the gift that won't stop taking.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:40PM (4 children)
Remember that super majority Obama enjoyed for a few months and then had to bend over backwards to meet Republican demands if he wanted to do anything at all?
I remember.
The DNC has plenty of problems with corruption, but the GOP makes them look like innocent little kids when it comes to being evil. Until you get that through your thick skull they'll keep bouncing power back and forth. If you freedom-loving geniuses could get over your tribalism you would have switched to Democrat and helped get Sanders elected, but instead of shrugged and said "guess we get more Trump."
Pardon me if I just can't get worked up about your stupid false equivalency.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @05:45PM
He is RUNAWAY! You are like the buzzing of the worms eating his brain, to him!!! Obama care did not provide for care for Redneck Hillbilly mental cases, nor did it waste money on trying to educate early onset Boomers. Runaway!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:20PM (1 child)
The DNC has plenty of problems with corruption, but the GOP makes them look like innocent little kids when it comes to being evil.
That's just the old *good cop/bad cop* routine. Sanders was never a candidate.
(Score: 0, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @08:43PM
Congratulations! You have been upgraded to UBER IDIOT! To claim your reward please observe the next eclipse the same way as Trump, the access code will be reflected at the proper angle so only you can see it!
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by khallow on Friday April 24 2020, @12:40PM
I also remember the excuses that Obama supporters gave for years afterwards. Sad. "Supermajority" means you don't have to "bend over backwards" for Republicans!
(Score: 5, Informative) by cmdrklarg on Thursday April 23 2020, @04:44PM
That is not the case, unfortunately.
Answer now is don't give in; aim for a new tomorrow.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday April 23 2020, @10:37PM (52 children)
Dude, congrats! That is the most moronic thing ever said on SN about this disease, by far! You win all of today's Internets!
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @10:52PM (50 children)
TMB weighs in with his semantics bullshit FTL!
Womp womp, knew the pint sized melon would squeeze some sweet derp juice for us.
For the macro heads with micro brains, "cure" meant "stop the problem" not literally "kill the virus." And wasn't me, but birdo you should have better critical thinking skills than to go all grammar nazi on someone :(
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2020, @11:35PM
Ari, look at this from Crisitna Cuomo... [thepuristonline.com]
She should deffo listen to you and not Trump but it gets worse...
What kind of monster is Fredo that he has pancakes with his kids? Children should never, ever be fried, always char-grilled the way Moloch intended!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday April 23 2020, @11:38PM (31 children)
Semantics? There is a fuckload of difference between "cures" and "slows, but in no way stops, the progress of".
Lockdown doesn't cure the disease. It doesn't stop you from getting the disease. It only delays when you will get the disease. And you will get the disease.
Testing for the virus is damned near totally useless except for record-keeping purposes. It is in fact much riskier to go get tested than to not get tested unless you already need to be around medical personnel, because it only takes one not properly cleaned hand or the like and that test has now ensured you will get the disease much sooner than you would have otherwise.
But, by all means, keep that cognitive dissonance up so you can have something to blame Trump for.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @01:29AM (2 children)
So you ignore what I said and proceed with some ad-homs and wrap it all up with "so you can have something to blame Trump for."
Par for the course oh drumpfy soylentnews clown boy.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday April 24 2020, @02:51PM (1 child)
You didn't say anything except bitching incorrectly about my argument being semantic and a few insults, so, yeah, I ignored the insults. You're some random anonymous dipshit on the Internet not someone whose opinion of me I value.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @11:58PM
It is OK to be stupid, just please stop trying to spread it around.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @02:03AM (4 children)
“I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning,” the president said during his daily Covid-19 briefing. A senior health official, under questioning from reporters, later said federal laboratories are not considering or trying to develop such a treatment option.
Yet another extremely dangerous bit of medical theorizing by the idiot in chief. Until you wrap this reality around your head you're going to continue to be called out for being a blowhard. If Pelosi was pushing dangerously dubious medical advice right now then your words would have been directed at her and not someone who used "cure" instead of "control" or "fix."
But hey, you're The Mighty Buzzard! Keep projecting your frustration and hypocrisy on to the easiest targets.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @04:24AM (1 child)
Oh, grate, now to make America Great agin, Trumpsters will start drinking bleach, like some already do, and injecting Lysol, and flaying their own skins to expose the virus to the Power of the Black Sun! Only a pure Whiteness could result from such actions, and I for one approve. We must sacrifice the stupid, to defeat the Corona Vitus!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @12:04PM
Sounds good to me. OK, all you Trumpsters, drink up! This is to defeat that nasty coronavirus, after all!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @09:04AM (1 child)
By favorite was the mental images generated by his suggestion to get the "tremendous light" of UV-C rays "inside the body. Through the skin, or some other way." [emphasis mine]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @12:00PM
...to preserve our precious bodily fluids.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday April 24 2020, @02:49PM (22 children)
But, by all means, keep that cognitive dissonance up so you can have something to blame Trump for.
:-) Watching you, or anybody, defend him is far more interesting, from a psychological point of view.
Of course more interesting than that is that we still haven't come up with a replacement to undo it all. Reveals a real lack of progress over the millennia.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday April 24 2020, @02:53PM (21 children)
I'm not defending him. I'm mocking idiots who blame him when it rains or they stub a toe and would take up puppy genocide if he said he liked dogs.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday April 24 2020, @03:12PM (20 children)
He is definitely to blame for the scale of this disaster, even with the complicity of his so-called "opposition". He is tragedy incarnate.
And yes, you are defending him, which is unfortunate.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday April 24 2020, @04:23PM (19 children)
The "scale of this disaster" is a whopping nothingburger as far as people's actual health goes, so if you're looking for safety at the expense of everything, you're getting your wish. The economy is another story.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @04:38PM (6 children)
There it is, we do a lockdown to prevent mass infection and the hundreds of thousands to millions of deaths that would result and when it works you big brain ascended IQ types spout off "I knew it was nothing all along, what a bunch of nonsense."
Yeah, the entire world is in on this new deep state plot to ... umm.. do what again? Highlight how dumb you can be?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday April 24 2020, @04:47PM (5 children)
The lockdown doesn't prevent you from getting the disease, dumbass. The lockdown only delays when you will get the disease. Because you absolutely will get it unless they come up with an actual cure. Pro-Tip: Tests are not cures.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @07:01PM (2 children)
I do so love when you get down to this level of trying to win.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 25 2020, @12:43PM (1 child)
You have a thing for stating the truth instead of parroting spin or outright lies? Glad to oblige then.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @05:14PM
Your comment just punched a hole in the space time continuum.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @12:59AM (1 child)
If you slow the spread sufficiently it dissipates dumbass.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 25 2020, @12:44PM
The hell it does. This disease isn't harmed by temperatures like say the flu, so all you need is one infected idiot and it starts right back up all over again.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday April 24 2020, @04:48PM (1 child)
Yes, he sabotaged the economy and is letting Wall Street suck the well dry, 9 trillion since September.
And the health thing too. He is sabotaging the supply chain to make a fast buck.
Why do you defend such an unmitigated disaster?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday April 24 2020, @05:01PM
Um, you need to read closer. Nothing you said there contradicts anything I said.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday April 24 2020, @04:52PM (9 children)
I forgot to point out that he is pushing dangerous drugs, just like your Alex Jones there.
We have a complete illiterate for president, and you're okay with it? Disturbing, but still fascinating
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday April 24 2020, @05:03PM (8 children)
No, he is not pushing drugs. He is pushing for the testing of drugs, which would still have to be prescribed by your doctor after the results are in and who is supposed to know his head from his ass medically. Get your shit straight.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday April 24 2020, @05:21PM (7 children)
Man, you should hear yourself, defending a man who pushes utter quackery.
I bet you would buy a divining rod from him
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday April 24 2020, @05:27PM (6 children)
I'm not defending him. I'm mocking you for hating him so much that you'll outright deny reality just to have another reason to bitch about him.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday April 24 2020, @05:36PM (5 children)
Uh huh, keep the faith!
Your denials are quite the spectacle. It's just sad we have no replacement.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Saturday April 25 2020, @12:54AM (4 children)
Sad, you know, when a once great internet Troll is reduced to this. The Minimized Buzzard, living the small. Not even a stinging rebuke! This is all Trump's fault! Thank you, Donald!!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 25 2020, @12:46PM (3 children)
Nah, I've just already pwned all the noobs around these parts. Gets boring when you win all the time.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @05:48PM
Slowly your idiocy catches up #LovinIt #TriggeredFoul
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @05:48PM (1 child)
Dunning-Krueger does not a Troll make.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2020, @03:42AM
Heh, should probably make a bot to crawl SN and find all the +0 insightful/informative responses to The Mighty Buzzard, some serious gold to be dug out there.
(Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Friday April 24 2020, @12:41PM (16 children)
Who ever thought it was a good idea for words to mean something!?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2020, @04:47PM (15 children)
So you truly don't understand what ari meant?
Yet when the orange idiot posts shit like
We hear crickets or weird interpretations that absolve Trump of all responsibility for promoting untested and dangerous medicines? Truly you hypocrites continue sinking to new lows, and I hope for once your political choices will actually stick with you instead of melting intot he never ending sea of bullshit.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday April 24 2020, @06:16PM (14 children)
Perhaps, but I know what ari actually wrote. Those things "lockdowns and testing" do not mean "cures".
That is odd. One would think you'd have something to say about that.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday April 24 2020, @08:34PM
Words have meaning, khallow! And these words do not mean what you think they mean. Even though you keep using them.
"Curing the pandemic" is not the same thing as curing you, if such a thing were even remotely plausible.
At least TMB is doing something to save himself, upping his cig consumption, and consuming bottom-feeding fish in a state not know for its environmental regulation.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2020, @06:15PM (12 children)
My favorite part is how trumpettes will defend every bad thing he says, inventing wild scenarios about how he is joking, how he actually means something else, or best of all how he didn't say the things the cameras recorded him saying.
Then you get heavy into semantics because "lockdown and testing" was mixed in with "cure"? I hope you never need us to take you seriously.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Sunday April 26 2020, @10:21PM (11 children)
"Heavy"? Looks like you fail again at semantics. And your projection is showing. I see an AC going after TMB again and again, not the other way around. I wonder who that could be?
Sounds like it'd be a waste of time even under the best circumstances.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2020, @07:23PM (10 children)
And I will keep going after that dipshit every time he wants to be an ignorant asshole =)
Your motto "Semantics for thee, bullshit for me!" is pretty sad. You should try out intellectual honesty sometime instead of your corporate whoring, might change your life.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday April 28 2020, @08:17PM (9 children)
Again, look at who really is getting heavy into semantics. You're projecting hard.
The original point from TMB was a good one to learn. Too many people conflate mitigation or theater with cure - as aristarchus did above. There's a vast gulf ignored.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Tuesday April 28 2020, @09:21PM (8 children)
No confusion, khallow. There is as yet no cure. So mitigation is all there is, and you are arguing in bad faith again, intentionally misinterpreting the arguments of others. Or are you just not intelligent enough to understand them? So what are you, khallow? Bad faith, or stupid? Fess up!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 29 2020, @06:22AM (7 children)
Y'know, I'm kinda happy they are down to this level of bullshit arguing. Soon they'll have to let reality into their minds as they run out of bullshit that even has trolling power.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 29 2020, @07:02AM (6 children)
Perhaps, if you keep leaping at that hook, TMB will stop trolling you hard?
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday April 29 2020, @09:02AM (5 children)
Your insistence on redefining words profiteth you naught, khallow. Better than you should just spout off "obvious rebuttal", and retreat with you tail between your legs. You are defending an old man who heard that disinfectants kill a virus on surfaces, and then in a demented old man way, opined "well,if only we could do that inside the body", a "kind of a cleansing", all of which proves that he was not firing on any cylinders, intellectually speaking. He is an idiot, a el stupido, and really small handed guy to be handling a pandemic. And you do not understand what I was saying, and you go with with the mendacious Tu Mendacio Buzzario interprets what I said? How stupid are you, khallow? Some times you seem to be slightly intelligent, but this is not one of those times. Are you being intentionally dense, or strategically stupid? We all know you do not want to be seen as explicity supporting Trump, but you know, after he gets done being all Precedent, he will be super, super, rich. One of his daughters, the less favorite one, is not married, yet? Khallow, you have a shot, you slithering slime ball of a wealth toady. Until then, fornax you, and your dated and illogical ideology. Rand Paul has AIDS, you know. Or was it just Covid-19 after a nastly bout of "blowing grass trimmings onto a neighbor's property? This is why I have no more libertariantard neighbors, I shot them, and the rest of the neighborhood cheered. Khallow? Care to respond? You cretin!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 29 2020, @01:00PM (4 children)
Why are you still posting about that? You already admitted [soylentnews.org] TMB was right and what your real intent was. Game over man.
Thus, there was some smarm at your expense, Buttercup, and a bit of needless drama. All I see here are the deserved fruits of not thinking before you (and perhaps your AC sockpuppets) write.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2020, @03:45AM (3 children)
Jesus, the alt-right fuckwits really think every AC is aristarchus.
You win Ari! They are so afraid of you they're cowering in front of clowns :D
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2020, @03:52AM
aristarchus approves this message.
Signed, AC
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday April 30 2020, @03:53AM (1 child)
Read my post again, Buttercup. No such thing happened. I was replying to an aristarchus post and quoting another aristarchus post. That was all aristarchus. As to the AC sockpuppet thing, aristarchus really did sockpuppet hard some time ago and continues to post AC from time to time. So it's not a stretch to suppose that he'll do it again.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 30 2020, @04:01AM
The obvious Buttercup is, khallow is actually only an aristarchus sockpuppet account. Think about it. The UID number work. No one could possibly be such a suck up to the capitalist class as khallow seems to be. It is almost like khallow is a caricature of a libertarian, so much so that he could not possibly be real. And, you never see them both at the same place at the same time, they both start their handles with lower case, and khallow has a hard sockpuppet. Or at least that is what he calls it. Bad Faith puppet of sock.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2020, @12:35AM
Excluding everything TMB has ever said.