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From User #3566 in https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/05/02/0037247
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An open question.
What could/should be done to prevent these shenanigans in the future?
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Your question is why I wrote this book and wrote here all of last year, so it is ironic to to me anyone even needs to ask.
https://jmichaelhudson.net/rated-soylent-comments/ [jmichaelhudson.net]
https://archive.is/FHpOa [archive.is]
And I also wrote essays and put them into a book:
https://leanpub.com/mentalselfdefense [leanpub.com]
This will warn and instruct all civilians on the depth and sophistication of efforts by various state and corporate actors to infiltrate and disintegrate all effective civilian organizations, while using their remaining air of legitimacy, even in the obvious absence of it, to endorse other tyrannical measures.
Read my comments here: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/44gq/saidit_has_the_chance_to_become_a_free_speech/ [saidit.net]
That is the way forward, I have been saying this for nearly 20 years and I am not changing my tune, everything has only further proven I was right when I got my degree in 2001. We need to accept that mediation and moderation and administration of forums is at this point not a hobby or volunteer effort, but legitimate, necessary-for-survival element of human governance, and recognize that this costs money.
Also that the people who have a billion dollars to ruin .org clearly have too much money they do not deserve, so the money is there, we just need to move it to where it will solve problems rather than create them(or build the entire internet into a tyrannical control mechanism for a tiny handful of https://archive.is/2MFbn [archive.is] to turn the world into an even worse place.
Roberts rules of order need to be updated, digitized, and secured, as do voting, or the internet is going to plunge us into a regressive dark age, which is really what is being threatened at the moment. And what spooky silver spoon jackasses like erik brooks either do not understand, or understand all too well.
I mean, he should a strong background to grasp these concepts after managing children's musical concerts, right? /s
Or you can consider the ideas of someone like myself, who was talking about this at the very beginning when people thought it would all just sort itself out somehow and we would never face a scenario where the entire world could not figure out who to trust on the matter of a pandemic.
(and the greatest enabler of computer viruses was for some reason suddenly the global authority on biological viruses...)
Meanwhile the most popular *dialogue* in the history of the world got 1 million live views for a simple conversation, and the most famous internet company is outright censoring the participants without even have to justify their actions.
And you will also notice archive.is came under attack this week for daring to make things that cannot be censored.
You tell me how far we have come, but to me it looks like backwards.
When you get stuck, you have to question your assumptions. And the entire premise of your question is just that, so maybe you should consider the ideas of people like me who have been singing the same tune from the beginning and saw all of this coming.
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Wednesday May 06 2020, @09:51AM (2 children)
Fair question lol.
I think it is after all a sign of sanity and good humor to be able to respond to allegations that your brain is malfunctioning, up to a point(that some on this site clearly go far beyond...)
What you consider the center is likely an illusion, and as that illusion crumbles(and it is crumbling, finally) the actual center becomes apparent and suddenly the solutions that were discarded without thought ten(in this case 20) years ago suddenly start to seem sensible compared to the solutions offered by those who are now revealed to be charlatans, with no solutions. (other than maybe to chip you with a mystery vax for a mystery bug and offer you a 20% loan for the privilege)
This is what happens when you follow reason and the best ideas rather than what is on the tv, for a time you are considered a loon, but then eventually people have no choice but to see the light.
Thus has it ever been. That is why you have to have balls, and not shrink away when people call you names and repeat failed ideas over and over, and have some hope and trust in your beliefs, so you are not a lemming feather in the hurricane of bullshit.
A better illustration of this concept may be difficult to find, thank you for noticing my demonstration.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Wednesday May 06 2020, @02:41PM (1 child)
What I've discovered is that memories change with experience. So the ideas that you discarded ten or, in my case fifty, years ago can seem quite reasonable now because they are no longer the same ideas. They have been refined.
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday May 08 2020, @01:14PM
This is to an extent true, the book I wrote on this subject was unrefined and now my ideas are refined.
But the main idea was correct and the people who told me that idea is not worth exploring were very wrong.
I said shills would take over if moderation was not respected as work, and the means to make this respected work were not created.
Could I have said it as well then, no. Because I was 25 and hadnt written so many million words.
Imagine a reddit where shills could not exist, I can.
Not that a reddit with shills, and many of them, would not exist, that is inevitable, but a major league forum for argument between real people without interference is what is still needed, anyone who says otherwise is a billionaire trying to implement you in their control mechanism.