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A year and a half ago, we had the strange US Supreme Court case of Timbs v. Indiana where the State of Indiana argued that it was lawful to seize someone's [hypothetical] expensive sports car for going five miles over the speed limit - a position they still hold.
Way back when, Tyson Timbs was arrested and plead guilty to selling heroin (to undercover police officers). They then seized his Land Rover even though it was purchased via an inheritance rather than with drug money. He has been in court ever since to get it back.
Well, despite all that, Timbs got his Land Rover back and it only took him seven years and three different courts (with repeated bouncing around). The State of Indiana has appealed the present ruling by the lowest court to the Indiana Supreme Court which hears this case for the third time.
So why is Indiana fighting this so hard even though they are so clearly in the wrong? Because big money is at stake. My take is that they'll lose a major funding source for their police departments, if they can't steal like this. And that will have to be covered by tax revenue.
Way back when, Tyson Timbs was arrested and plead guilty to selling heroin (to undercover police officers). They then seized his Land Rover even though it was purchased via an inheritance rather than with drug money. He has been in court ever since to get it back.
Well, despite all that, Timbs got his Land Rover back and it only took him seven years and three different courts (with repeated bouncing around). The State of Indiana has appealed the present ruling by the lowest court to the Indiana Supreme Court which hears this case for the third time.
So why is Indiana fighting this so hard even though they are so clearly in the wrong? Because big money is at stake. My take is that they'll lose a major funding source for their police departments, if they can't steal like this. And that will have to be covered by tax revenue.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Wednesday May 27 2020, @10:47PM (3 children)
If you don't allow police departments to act like bandits, they will have to trim some fat. Maybe they could only afford to send 2 guys after the next George Floyd instead of 4.
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(Score: 3, Interesting) by Aegis on Thursday May 28 2020, @02:29PM
There has been some progress on the state level re: civil asset forfeiture.
California banned it in 2017. [huffpost.com] A few other states have as well: Florida, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, Tennessee, Virginia, Wyoming
There was a bipartisan attempt at the Federal level. [drugpolicy.org] But Moscow Mitch McConnell tabled it so it won't ever get voted on in the Congress.
And then, of course, the Trump admin expanded the practice. There is absolutely no policy they can't get on the wrong side of!
Under Sessions' Plan, Government Will Seize More People's Property [nbcnews.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @04:23PM (1 child)
Maybe they can only afford to send one guy out for donuts.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 30 2020, @04:46PM
No problem there. We'll just send him in a delivery van. That van holds more than any six police cruisers!
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @12:33AM (5 children)
The real challenge is getting the Land Rover out of the shop.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 28 2020, @01:05AM (4 children)
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @02:33AM (3 children)
100,000 dead, and khallow still worried about his impounded backhoe. #JusticeForCarolyn
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 28 2020, @04:42AM (2 children)
(Score: 3, Touché) by Aegis on Thursday May 28 2020, @02:15PM (1 child)
Don't worry, if you want 115k dead from Coronavirus too all you need to do is wait a week.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 03 2020, @07:56PM
You are overselling your alternative facts, Mr. COVID Witness.
(Score: -1, Spam) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @02:13AM (4 children)
See subject: You RAN from a COMPLETELY FAIR CHALLENGE https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=37716&page=1&cid=999825 [soylentnews.org] to show what wares YOU'VE WRITTEN that are better than my Hosts File Engine. You HIDE behind your FAKENAME "registered luser" account to SHITPOST but RUN when asked to PROVE what you've done. You're NOTHING more than a USELESS "ne'er-do-well" who contributes NOTHING of value and STALKS me on forums like this THIRD RATE /. knockoff.
* Post your REAL name, address & phone number instead of hiding behind your FAKENAME. Then we'll see what kind of a SHITWEASEL NOT-MAN you truly are.
I'm so SICK & TIRED of FORUM FUCKS like you BULLYING & HARASSING your betters. You weezils RUINED /. & now SPAM your NO-MIND BULLSHIT BLATHERINGS on lots of other sites. Prove me wrong & SHOW WHERE YOU'VE DONE BETTER than I. You CAN'T & you know it.
APK
P.S.=> I am GOD'S GIFT to this SoylentNews SHITHOLE while you SLITHER around with fake name TRANNIES like Tom "Barbara" Hudson. You started w/ me & NOW I'LL FINISH like the man you AREN'T... apk
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @03:37AM (1 child)
Attention:
Please, when modding this asshole down, use the Spam mod. It's more effective
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 30 2020, @04:47PM
I resent that you call him an asshole. Fekkin' moron might be more accurate, but the fekkin' morons will likely take offense as well.
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 28 2020, @04:21AM (1 child)
You know where the exit is. The fact that you are still here tells me more strongly than words how you really feel. This place will let you be APK. There aren't many places, shitholes or not, that will do that!
And maybe online discussion forums aren't your thing. Ever think about turning the computer off for a while and having a life?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @06:39AM
Why are you feeding this shit? The very last thing you should do is respond to this moron, unless you want him to stick around. Do you?
(Score: 2) by lizardloop on Thursday May 28 2020, @10:55AM (5 children)
A friend of mine here in the UK is getting screwed over with this stuff. They are trying to seize his house based on a completely fictitious proceeds of crime amount. As far as I can tell the police are allowed to make up whatever figure they like for the amount of money earned through crime and challenging that in court is hard. He's already pleaded guilty to the crimes but they are now claiming that everything he ever bought for a five year period was as a result of the crimes, including his house. Which is a complete lie but challenging that is difficult and expensive.
Also another friend of mine was financially ruined when he joined a protest group. He was eventually convicted of some minor trespassing crimes but ended up being liable for the court costs which ended up being several times his annual salary because the council "had to" use one of the most expensive law firms in the country. It was a pretty effective way of stopping middle class people joining in the protest.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @01:29PM (1 child)
That's... Sinister. Seizing property is one thing, but why would you have to pay for the governments lawyers?!
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 29 2020, @03:37PM
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 28 2020, @02:01PM (1 child)
Interesting company you keep.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 29 2020, @09:05AM
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday May 30 2020, @04:50PM
Well, he should have learned not to jaywalk!
/sarcasm
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.