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posted by martyb on Tuesday June 02 2020, @07:30PM   Printer-friendly

African-American George Floyd's death has led to marches, demonstrations, acts of violence, and looting across the USA and in other parts of the world. Emotions are running high. We will not attempt to accuse or defend anyone here. Just attempt to lay out the information we have and offer it up for the community to discuss. Many comments about this incident have been posted to unrelated stories on this site. This is, therefore, an attempt to provide one place on SoylentNews where people are encouraged to discuss it. So as to not derail other stories on the site, I kindly ask you focus those comments here.

Wikipedia has a page about this: (permanent link to the page as it appeared at the time of writing):

On May 25, 2020, George Floyd, an African-American man, was killed in the Powderhorn community of Minneapolis, Minnesota. While Floyd was handcuffed and lying face down on a city street during an arrest, Derek Chauvin, a white American Minneapolis police officer, kept his knee on the right side of Floyd's neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds; according to the criminal complaint against Chauvin, 2 minutes and 53 seconds of that time occurred after Floyd became unresponsive.[3][4][5][6][7] Officers Tou Thao, J. Alexander Kueng, and Thomas K. Lane participated in Floyd's arrest, with Kueng holding Floyd's back, Lane holding his legs, and Thao looking on and preventing intervention by an onlooker as he stood nearby.[8]:6:24[9][10]

The arrest was made after Floyd was accused of using a counterfeit $20 bill at a market.[11] Police said Floyd physically resisted arrest.[12][13] Some media organizations commented that a security camera from a nearby business did not show Floyd resisting.[14][15] The criminal complaint filed later said that based on body camera footage, Floyd repeatedly said he couldn't breathe while standing outside the police car, resisted getting in the car and intentionally fell down.[16][17][18][19] Several bystanders recorded the event on their smartphones, with one video showing Floyd repeating "Please", "I can't breathe", "Mama", and "Don't kill me" being widely circulated on social media platforms and broadcast by the media.[20] While knee-to-neck restraints are allowed in Minnesota under certain circumstances, Chauvin's usage of the technique has been widely criticized by law enforcement experts as excessive.[21][22][23] All four officers were fired the day after the incident.[24]

[...] Charges: Third-degree murder (Chauvin) Second-degree manslaughter (Chauvin)

This has been extensively covered by the media. Some outlets attempt to put their own interpretations on their coverage with their selection of video footage and with their commentary. It is difficult to find a simple video of the incident. Here is one that has coverage from the time of initial encounter of the police the officers with George Floyd up through his being taken away by ambulance. The video is a composite of shots from a restaurant's surveillance camera (Dragon Wok), Officer body cam, and bystander cell phones. YouTube footage: Full George Floyd Available Footage (21:12). If anyone has more complete footage of the arrest, please mention it clearly (with a link) in the comments.

Lastly, this is a hard time for everybody. Pandemic. Lock-down. Unemployment. Fears. Please be mindful of others' circumstances when commenting. We are a community sprung from a time of challenge. Let us continue to be here for one-another during this difficult time. SoylentNews is People.

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  • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Wednesday June 03 2020, @05:15PM (3 children)

    by RS3 (6367) on Wednesday June 03 2020, @05:15PM (#1002833)

    Deimtee, I completely agree with you, and never wrote anything in contradiction. Your post suggests otherwise. Not sure what you're trying to say, but you might be so angry about the situation, as am I, that you're ready to pounce on anyone who you misunderstand, even when we agree with you. Don't alienate people who are on your side. I've said for more than 30 years that cops are out of control in the USA, and worse, it's been noticed, and _nothing_ substantive done about it. They seem to be getting worse and worse.

    That cop will go to prison, and probably won't live long unless they somehow build a new prison just for cops.

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  • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Wednesday June 03 2020, @07:31PM (1 child)

    by deimtee (3272) on Wednesday June 03 2020, @07:31PM (#1002906) Journal

    I think that was meant to be a reply to the guy arguing that it was the same as a split second decision to pull a trigger. Apologies.

    If you cough while drinking cheap red wine it really cleans out your sinuses.
    • (Score: 2) by RS3 on Wednesday June 03 2020, @10:02PM

      by RS3 (6367) on Wednesday June 03 2020, @10:02PM (#1002958)

      Thank you and you're quite forgiven, and I'm humbled to even write that. I'm slowly and finally getting on to the whole culture here, and sometimes my writing style is sharper than who I am. Fairly strong in logic, fairly weak in expressing myself. But yes, I agree, and it makes sense. There are so many sides to this situation. I hear more charges are leveled against the main cop, and the 3 others for "abetting". Sadly investigations often take weeks, months, years. Not sure why- seems like more focus could speed things along. Some investigations take so long that key witnesses die (sometimes murdered) and the criminal gets away with murder. I don't know which is more convoluted- IT or legal system...

      Thanks again!

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 04 2020, @03:24AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 04 2020, @03:24AM (#1003050)

    Don't alienate people who are on your side. I've said for more than 30 years that cops are out of control in the USA, and worse, it's been noticed, and _nothing_ substantive done about it. They seem to be getting worse and worse.

    You might want to take your own advice. That's just a suggestion.