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SpaceX hasn’t given details about its motivation for this seemingly complex and expensive undertaking, other than a reply tweet in which Musk said the launches and landings had to be “far enough away so as not to bother heavily populated areas.” The company’s plan to eventually carry out up to three launches and landings per day would certainly necessitate putting some serious distance between the launch site and people; most of us could only handle about one sonic boom a month, if that.
A wide no-fly zone and road closures go into effect on launch days. And if Starships do eventually shuttle people around Earth or beyond on a daily basis, the takeoff and landing points would need to be conveniently located; going a few miles offshore is likely better in this regard than finding a huge empty swathe of land in, say, New Mexico or Nevada.
Rather than building the launchpads from scratch, it’s possible SpaceX would refurbish existing oil rigs; the bigger rigs are about the size of two football fields, and there are plenty of them in the Gulf of Mexico, though only a couple very near Brownsville. Given the ailing state of the oil industry, especially after the pandemic, it’s likely there will be rigs to be had for cheap.
One outstanding question is what sort of impact the launch pads would have on marine life, especially if something were to go wrong.
(Score: 2) by legont on Sunday June 21 2020, @05:20AM (7 children)
The main Mask's motivation is to get rid of the US regulations. He wants to set up suborbital travel anywhere in 30 minutes. Doable in reasonable time, but no way FAA approved anytime soon if ever.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by choose another one on Sunday June 21 2020, @10:49AM (3 children)
It isn't going to be 30mins if you have a significant boat / chopper ride to add on at each end.
If it happens, it may end up the way flying has gone post-911, with short flights now better done by car or train due to having to add on 3hrs security / checkin / mandatory shopping time (plus more at destination).
(Score: 2) by legont on Sunday June 21 2020, @06:45PM (2 children)
For a foreseeable future Mask is going to have preapproved very rich clients who can get to the start pad by their own means just fine and don't need government security. They helicopter to Manhattan daily right now. It will add just an hour to commute to Singapore.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 2, Touché) by legont on Sunday June 21 2020, @06:58PM (1 child)
Now, an ecological footprint of moving a rich ass this way is huge, but I hope nobody here really thinks Musk cares.
After all, the sooner we burn this planet, the sooner we will have to move to Mars.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 2) by legont on Monday June 22 2020, @03:21AM
Wow, somebody really trying to score me high :)
Let me remind you how we got ground oil economy. Simple - we killed all the whales who used to provide all the oil. Nothing much changed since then.
What about brick and concrete housing? We cut all the trees.
This is the story of capitalism. No business will move forward if it can milk whatever it has. The only way to force them into progress is to eliminate their resources.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 2) by Tokolosh on Sunday June 21 2020, @02:31PM (2 children)
Boeing got into a lot of trouble. The US government owns everything you think you own.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Launch [wikipedia.org]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2020, @04:48PM
just like your kids that you had in a slave warehouse called a hospital. (people, not necessarily "you") that's why they get a SSN. The "product" of government licensed marriages is property of the state and you are only the legally appointed "guardian". People need to stop registering their kids and private enterprises with the enemies of human freedom and big companies should create private armies to defend themselves from government thugs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2020, @11:10PM
Sea Launch was shut down when Russia invaded Ukraine, because the factory where the rockets were built was in the war zone. US regulations had nothing to do with it.
(Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2020, @05:41AM
A dozen launches daily! Each containing Elong Musky's superior sperm!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by choose another one on Sunday June 21 2020, @10:55AM
If something goes wrong I think marine life will be in same state as with current arrangements - almost everywhere rockets are launched with water down range, if something goes wrong the whole flaming caboodle ends up on top of marine life anyway, sea or land launch.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by turgid on Sunday June 21 2020, @11:59AM (5 children)
Floating spaceports would be really cool if they were floating in the sky. Imagine if you could build them at, say 10k metres up, and launch the rockets (and land them again) from there. It would save a fair bit of rocket fuel, and you could have them more or less wherever you liked, and move them if and when required, depending on the mission.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday June 21 2020, @12:24PM (2 children)
If you have the technology to make a floating spaceport, do you even need a rocket?
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(Score: 2) by turgid on Sunday June 21 2020, @02:17PM
Yes, I have a ludicrous idea I might share with you, but it would be better in a journal.
I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent [wikipedia.org].
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2020, @11:15PM
Yes, for two reasons:
A floating spaceport can't go very fast.
A floating spaceport can't go much higher than its station-keeping altitude, because they would be stationed at their maximum altitude.
If you want to go faster and higher (like into space) you still need a rocket.
(Score: 3, Informative) by hendrikboom on Sunday June 21 2020, @08:06PM
I've seen a formal proposal for spaceports at 10 km up. The launch platform would be some kind of giant balloon.
(Actually, they were considering an inflatable tower, but they were relying on buoyancy for structural support)
-- hendrik
(Score: 3, Informative) by Immerman on Sunday June 21 2020, @08:45PM
Airship to Orbit [jpaerospace.com] wants to build lighter-than-air "Dark-Sky Stations" for basically that purpose, though at 42km rather than 10. You'd take an airship from the ground to the station, and then transfer to the orbital vehicle.
Though in their case the orbital vehicle is a rocket propelled ultra-light airship that takes many days to accelerate to orbital speed as it slowly climbs out of the atmosphere entirely.