(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @05:52PM
by Anonymous Coward
on Saturday June 27 2020, @05:52PM (#1013318)
Do you even realize how hard you just shifted the goalposts? Your original post was, "Just keep in mind, what most Americans refer to as left-wing or leftist is *centrist* (and boring as hell) in the civilized world." Without missing a breath you now happily transition to your views and behaviors instead of what you literally said "what most Americans refer to as left-wing or leftist".
When "most Americans" speak of a leftist, how often do you think they are referring to whatever you're describing? By contrast how often do you think they're referencing things such as this [youtube.com]. That is US Democratic Representative Maxine Walters encouraging people to form mobs and try to harass (if not worse) any representative from the opposite political party. How often do you think they're referencing the groups that will increasingly aggressively try to destroy the life of anybody who does something they politically disagree with? How often do you think they're referring to the brownshirtsblackshirts that appear in an effort to intimidate, assault, and disrupt any and everybody that disagrees with their ideology?
The problem you're facing is what happens when people choose not to actively reject these radicals that are perceived to be, at least compared to the alternative, ideologically aligned with them. Those radicals behavior becomes normalized and gradually trends towards becoming a part of the group as a whole. Here's a hint for you: you're likely simply not an *American* leftist anymore. You may be a leftist and liberal, but American leftism and liberalism is characterized by the democratic party. And that party has become deeply radicalized and going down a dark path that many other nations have gone in the past - invariably with nothing but regret to show for it.
An increasingly large number of the ideals and behaviors that characterize what most people mean they refer to a 'leftist American' would be unwelcome in nearly any other nation.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 27 2020, @05:52PM
Do you even realize how hard you just shifted the goalposts? Your original post was, "Just keep in mind, what most Americans refer to as left-wing or leftist is *centrist* (and boring as hell) in the civilized world." Without missing a breath you now happily transition to your views and behaviors instead of what you literally said "what most Americans refer to as left-wing or leftist".
When "most Americans" speak of a leftist, how often do you think they are referring to whatever you're describing? By contrast how often do you think they're referencing things such as this [youtube.com]. That is US Democratic Representative Maxine Walters encouraging people to form mobs and try to harass (if not worse) any representative from the opposite political party. How often do you think they're referencing the groups that will increasingly aggressively try to destroy the life of anybody who does something they politically disagree with? How often do you think they're referring to the
brownshirtsblackshirts that appear in an effort to intimidate, assault, and disrupt any and everybody that disagrees with their ideology?The problem you're facing is what happens when people choose not to actively reject these radicals that are perceived to be, at least compared to the alternative, ideologically aligned with them. Those radicals behavior becomes normalized and gradually trends towards becoming a part of the group as a whole. Here's a hint for you: you're likely simply not an *American* leftist anymore. You may be a leftist and liberal, but American leftism and liberalism is characterized by the democratic party. And that party has become deeply radicalized and going down a dark path that many other nations have gone in the past - invariably with nothing but regret to show for it.
An increasingly large number of the ideals and behaviors that characterize what most people mean they refer to a 'leftist American' would be unwelcome in nearly any other nation.