Funny, I see about half a dozen tops right-leaning folks, at least three times as many seriously-to-radically progressives types, even more moderates, and a few weirdo libertarians who do not fit on that axis at all.
On the contrary, outside of the left-right axis is the best place to view it from. You don't get a false horizon from being way the hell off to one side. And the left-right axis has nothing to do with how liberal (which is what libertarians are and progressives aren't) someone is in the US nowadays, it's about which flavor of authoritarianism you prefer.
I'm not remotely a moderate. I'm quite uncompromising in my ideals compared to the general public. Like I said, libertarians do not fit on your left-right scale. We don't want either of your flavors of big government authoritarianism, thanks.
Yet, you come across as pretty right wing in the traditional sense. Unluckily you're so invested in your view of yourself that discussion becomes like talking to a wall, and who wants to waste too much time talking to a wall?
TMB: Chickasaw/Cherokee Nazi, not doubt with a good amount of white blood. Never made sense to me, until I say "Under the Volcano" [imdb.com] with Albert Finney, with the one scene where the Metis wearing a Nazi lapel button, beats down on a pure blood Mayan. That explains TMB. But, he is no Mayan.
Dude, if you think I'm right-wing, you're so far out in the progressive fringes that you think anyone less progressive than you is right-wing. I'm what liberal actually means even if it has been badly misused in the US for quite some time: championing the liberties of the people.
I'm idly curious where on the graph politicalcompass.org would put you [politicalcompass.org], Buzzard.
I'm sure the test isn't perfect but it seems to do a good job of scattering people across the axes according to their political views. I don't disagree with where it aligned me.
-- Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
I'll give it a go for the lulz but I can tell from the first few questions that it's a colossally shitty test. Most of the questions require presuppositions that are themselves wrong. Take "Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.", for instance. That's like asking if oxygen or water are more important to your health. It's not an either/or and there's not a scale of agreement, both are completely, factually crucial but there's no option for that and they lump the folks who understand that in with the folks who have rabid beliefs that unemployment control is more important by how they ask the question.
Joke Test Results: Economic Left/Right: 4.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.9
You do come out with right wing believes regularly, one I remember was that you considered the value of someone was accurately reflected in their wages, implying that someone getting low wages was worthless. This in a country where the leading predictor of your income is your parents income.
It is a relatively accurate reflection. Unfortunately all of society gets a vote not just you and those who agree with you but also people who vehemently disagree with you and complete morons who watch reality TV. They vote with their wallets every day and you can see the results easily.
Dude, you think that's a rebuttal? Both can be true at the same time. If your parents had or at least knew the value of possessing valuable skills, they're capable of passing that on to you. If they didn't, they aren't.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 25 2020, @06:57PM (12 children)
Funny, I see about half a dozen tops right-leaning folks, at least three times as many seriously-to-radically progressives types, even more moderates, and a few weirdo libertarians who do not fit on that axis at all.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2020, @07:09PM (11 children)
Well you call yourself a liberal so you're judgment is hardly trustworthy.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 25 2020, @09:52PM (10 children)
On the contrary, outside of the left-right axis is the best place to view it from. You don't get a false horizon from being way the hell off to one side. And the left-right axis has nothing to do with how liberal (which is what libertarians are and progressives aren't) someone is in the US nowadays, it's about which flavor of authoritarianism you prefer.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 26 2020, @02:44PM (9 children)
Amusing you think of yourself as moderste or objective. Huff some more proppy.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday June 27 2020, @03:14AM (8 children)
I'm not remotely a moderate. I'm quite uncompromising in my ideals compared to the general public. Like I said, libertarians do not fit on your left-right scale. We don't want either of your flavors of big government authoritarianism, thanks.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by dry on Saturday June 27 2020, @04:33AM (7 children)
Yet, you come across as pretty right wing in the traditional sense. Unluckily you're so invested in your view of yourself that discussion becomes like talking to a wall, and who wants to waste too much time talking to a wall?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Saturday June 27 2020, @05:46AM
TMB: Chickasaw/Cherokee Nazi, not doubt with a good amount of white blood. Never made sense to me, until I say "Under the Volcano" [imdb.com] with Albert Finney, with the one scene where the Metis wearing a Nazi lapel button, beats down on a pure blood Mayan. That explains TMB. But, he is no Mayan.
(Score: 2, Disagree) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday June 27 2020, @10:39PM (5 children)
Dude, if you think I'm right-wing, you're so far out in the progressive fringes that you think anyone less progressive than you is right-wing. I'm what liberal actually means even if it has been badly misused in the US for quite some time: championing the liberties of the people.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Sunday June 28 2020, @02:52PM (2 children)
I'm idly curious where on the graph politicalcompass.org would put you [politicalcompass.org], Buzzard.
I'm sure the test isn't perfect but it seems to do a good job of scattering people across the axes according to their political views. I don't disagree with where it aligned me.
Master of the science of the art of the science of art.
(Score: 3, Informative) by dry on Monday June 29 2020, @02:20AM
He may not agree with the result. I myself end up close to the bottom left.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 29 2020, @12:39PM
I'll give it a go for the lulz but I can tell from the first few questions that it's a colossally shitty test. Most of the questions require presuppositions that are themselves wrong. Take "Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.", for instance. That's like asking if oxygen or water are more important to your health. It's not an either/or and there's not a scale of agreement, both are completely, factually crucial but there's no option for that and they lump the folks who understand that in with the folks who have rabid beliefs that unemployment control is more important by how they ask the question.
Joke Test Results:
Economic Left/Right: 4.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.9
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by dry on Monday June 29 2020, @02:16AM (1 child)
You do come out with right wing believes regularly, one I remember was that you considered the value of someone was accurately reflected in their wages, implying that someone getting low wages was worthless. This in a country where the leading predictor of your income is your parents income.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday June 29 2020, @12:45PM
It is a relatively accurate reflection. Unfortunately all of society gets a vote not just you and those who agree with you but also people who vehemently disagree with you and complete morons who watch reality TV. They vote with their wallets every day and you can see the results easily.
Dude, you think that's a rebuttal? Both can be true at the same time. If your parents had or at least knew the value of possessing valuable skills, they're capable of passing that on to you. If they didn't, they aren't.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.