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Journal by Subsentient

One interesting thing about Soylent News is that there's a very clear, very tangible political division in comments for practically everything. You see everything from Nazi sympathizers to full-blown Communists, but the far ends of the spectrum generally talk much more often. I suppose that could describe wider America, too, but usually it's not so intermixed in real life. I suppose internet makes that easier.

Myself, I'm socially center-left, and far-left economically. I value freedom of speech as a near-absolute, but I think capitalism is about to burn itself out and take a lot of us with it. But whatever, my beliefs are not what this one is about.

I'm wondering, what do Soylentils *really* think of their political opposition?
What do far-right think of the far-left, etc?

Describe how you think they view the world, what you think motivates them, nothing's off the table.
Only rule is, be honest about how you actually perceive them.

I might weigh in at some point in the comments, but I can't promise that.

I wonder if this journal will get any attention, whether it will explode into a white-hot thermite flame war, or whether I'll just get two or three comments calling me a faggot.

I'm genuinely curious about this. Let's hear it.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday July 16 2020, @05:36PM (10 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday July 16 2020, @05:36PM (#1022491) Journal
    My take is if you have mountains of unsecured debt, then you voluntarily waived your rights to that family life and the other entitlements that the Declaration of Human Rights overgenerously gives you.
  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday July 16 2020, @10:20PM (9 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday July 16 2020, @10:20PM (#1022605) Journal

    Way to miss the point of the declaration of human rights.

    I have to say, though, this post is pure distilled Hallow. This is you, condensed and purified (or at least concentrated) and slowly vapor distilled down to the very essence of what makes you you. They're gonna print this one on your tombstone.

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 16 2020, @10:48PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 16 2020, @10:48PM (#1022617)

      He thought I was saying people have a right to a home rather than chastising Government policies effectively denying it's working, tax paying citizens the possibility. In all fairness, I have seen people cite the UDHR like that but it can't be easy sitting in an RV wondering why the young are on the streets [latimes.com] blaming Capitalism, Boomers and Racism.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday July 16 2020, @11:48PM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday July 16 2020, @11:48PM (#1022646) Journal

        He thought I was saying people have a right to a home rather than chastising Government policies effectively denying it's working, tax paying citizens the possibility.

        I still think that's a reasonable interpretation of your words since we have yet to hear details of these government policies.

        But I suppose I could make a stab at guessing. I can think of several US or US regional policies that have significant negative effect on home ownership: zoning, minimum wage law, and laws/regulations that raise cost of living (particularly, education, health care, home ownership, etc). Overturning any of these would be difficult because you would have a collision of rights. What's more important, the right to a cheap home or the right not to live next to a cheap home? What's more important, the living wage or not forcing people to live in high cost of living areas? What's more important, having access to education, health care, etc or paying less for what education, health care, etc that you can access?

        Or perhaps you're thinking of the right not have one's job off-shored? But if so, why does your right to a well-paying job rank higher than some developing world worker's right to that well-paying job. If it's a matter of citizenship, every country for itself, then that implies immigrants would have less right to a job than natives.

        The problem with positive rights (rights to have stuff) is that nobody thinks about how to implement them without losing the more important negative rights (limits to others' power over you).

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday July 16 2020, @11:51PM (6 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday July 16 2020, @11:51PM (#1022648) Journal

      Way to miss the point of the declaration of human rights.

      I doubt I'm missing the point at all. It's a wish list that has no business claiming human right status.

      I have to say, though, this post is pure distilled Hallow. This is you, condensed and purified (or at least concentrated) and slowly vapor distilled down to the very essence of what makes you you. They're gonna print this one on your tombstone.

      I notice your connotation is negative, yet you haven't said anything negative. The content is mysteriously missing.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 17 2020, @01:39AM (5 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday July 17 2020, @01:39AM (#1022693) Journal

        Because *I don't need to.*

        Your kind seems incapable of understanding the damage you do to yourselves with your own flapping foodsuckers. Nothing I could possibly say or do to or about you can damage you even slightly as much as your own diarrhetic pie-hole. You're such a complete (or incomplete, perhaps?) mockery of a human being that you fail to even consider that possibility.

        Please, keep taking the bait. Keep vomiting your poisonous effluent everywhere you go. People like me will always be around to keep goading you and deconstructing your bullshit when you fall for the trap, as you always do.

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Friday July 17 2020, @02:04AM (4 children)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 17 2020, @02:04AM (#1022699) Journal

          Your kind seems incapable of understanding the damage you do to yourselves with your own flapping foodsuckers.

          Sounds like I'm not the one with that problem. But maybe enough repetition will make it true, right?

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday July 17 2020, @02:45AM (3 children)

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Friday July 17 2020, @02:45AM (#1022708) Journal

            And there's exhibit B: when backed into a corner, all you have is "iknowyouarebutwhatami?" Keep it up! :) You could not shut up and walk away and cut your losses if your life depended on it!

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 0, Troll) by khallow on Friday July 17 2020, @04:11AM (2 children)

              by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 17 2020, @04:11AM (#1022747) Journal
              The narrative continues. Here's my take [soylentnews.org].

              The next step is to shoehorn everyone you encounter into your narrative. Protip: if you're spending more time telling us why we're some black hat/shill/zombie in your narrative than providing support, like reasoning and evidence, for your narrative, then you don't have something worth talking about.

              Looks like your thing needs some work.

              • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday July 18 2020, @12:25AM (1 child)

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday July 18 2020, @12:25AM (#1023143) Journal

                The projection is incredible. I had no idea you could swallow that much irony without choking...

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                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday July 18 2020, @04:36AM

                  by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday July 18 2020, @04:36AM (#1023250) Journal
                  If this is projection on my side, then what's my narrative around which I'm projecting? Sounds like you need to flesh out the plot.