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The U.S. Space Force revealed its new logo and motto as the service seeks to build branding and cultural identity.
The black-and-silver service logo unveiled July 22 has the delta wing as its central element that is also found in the Space Force seal and flag. There is a "Space Force" horizontally shaped logo and a USSF vertical logo.
The Space Force motto "Semper Supra" means "always above." It represents the service's role in establishing, maintaining and preserving U.S. freedom of operations in the ultimate high ground, a Space Force spokesman said.
The logo was designed by the Department of the Air Force's advertising agency GSD&M.
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-- Don Quixote
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @06:16PM (4 children)
In spite of the blatant violation of international treaties prohibiting the militarization of space, I love John Malkovich in this series! Ad Assholem, per coacluia! Such a great motto, for illiterate Republican Americans attempting to speak Latin, like a Hairy Pottering curse!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @08:33PM (2 children)
Ha - now tell us what percentage of liberal arts graduates believe in astrology? And when you've done that, mod me "+1 Sagittarius"!
(Score: 4, Funny) by HiThere on Friday July 24 2020, @08:38PM (1 child)
We Tauruses don't believe in Astrology.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @11:44PM
You conservative shits, how dare you!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @09:36PM
Treaty was void when Russians said last week they were putting weapons in space.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @06:32PM (21 children)
I hope (for many many many reasons, actually) that Biden wins, and if he does, I hope this whole idea just withers away like it never happened. The whole idea, from it's inception, motivation, need, everything, it is just so embarrassing. It's only purpose is to appease one idiot's ego, give something of substance for another idiot to feel like he left his mark, and gives an AF general the opportunity to get to sit at the grown ups table (Joint Chief's), so he REALLY wants this to happen (also for ego reasons).
The rest of this is just a burden on everyone below, and it will have the same streamline efficiency that standing up the Dept of Homeland Security did, meaning that it will cause budgets to explode as armies of middle-managers are brought in to "efficiently" manage and coordinate a whole lot of stuff that was already being addressed and managed just fine.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @06:45PM (2 children)
While I'm with you regarding the level of idiocy of the current (2016-2020) occupant of the white house (using this [wikipedia.org] definition); I honestly don't think this is something that would have been created regardless of whether it was orange buffoon or hated lady in there. It's something the military has (legitimately) asked for for a long time now. Even hated lady would have moved forward with this.
And while I share your hope that Biden wins, this won't be abolished under Biden, nor should it.
Now, onward, upward... and go here to make a change in your world: https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote [usa.gov] ; and if you're already registered, make sure others who aren't yet, become registered, because we have a country to rescue!
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday July 24 2020, @08:47PM (1 child)
Perhaps, but that blatant pandering to prickism should be eliminated. There's a reasonable job for them to do, but macho posturing isn't a reasonable part of it. I'd have preferred a nice simple traditional motto, like "Ad astra". (And I'm *NOT* making a reference to any movie. The traditional phrase is "ad astra per aspira", and is hopeful rather than threatening. http://proverbhunter.com/through-hardship-to-the-stars/ [proverbhunter.com] -- though reinterpreted in a slightly more literal way as "to the stars lead by hope".)
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(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Friday July 24 2020, @09:19PM
Space is hard. Ad astra, per aspirin
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(Score: 1) by PaperNoodle on Friday July 24 2020, @06:57PM (1 child)
>withers away like it never happened.
Setting aside Trump his ego and that whole quagmire. I don't think, even if Biden wins, that this will go away. It's been in the works since at least Clinton in the late 90's. Especially as launch costs per kilogram come down through reusable rockets means more economic input and more attack vectors from a potential adversary. Biden might rename it or do some kind of restructuring to claim he undid what Trump did but the effective "Space Force" will still be the same. The US military will still hold full-spectrum supremacy and the management of space assets and threat assessment will still occur.
Personally, I think it makes sense from an organizational stand point to be somewhat separate as well as from a budgeting point.
B3
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @09:36AM
You're exceptionally delusional, the only kind of American exceptionalism that holds true today.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by EvilSS on Friday July 24 2020, @07:00PM (9 children)
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday July 24 2020, @07:43PM (8 children)
Because it was a rider on the act that funds our military... [wikipedia.org]
Were they supposed to defund the military to prevent it?
(Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @08:14PM (5 children)
Good point - Obama's Dems had 8 years to stop bombing brown people and still haven't changed their tune.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday July 24 2020, @08:49PM (2 children)
And that's a valid point. Both sides are rotten. But the Republicans are worse...unless you're already a rich man. (Even then Trump is arguably worse.)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @09:09PM
> Republicans are worse...unless you're already a rich man
The "republicans are for the party of the rich" is a bit dated. It's more accurate to say that democrates [dailywire.com] are the party for the rich [forbes.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @03:53PM
Republicans are worse than the party that shall not be named? [thehill.com]
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 24 2020, @09:07PM (1 child)
B b b b but! If a dark brown man is bombing brown men, it isn't RACISM, is it?
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @09:28PM
Dark? Obama is a light skinned yellow (in the AA parlance) guy, not at all dark.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @01:17AM
I thought all money bills originate with the House. How was it not their decision to include it?
(Score: 2) by EvilSS on Sunday July 26 2020, @05:43PM
(Score: 4, Insightful) by leon_the_cat on Friday July 24 2020, @07:47PM
No you are completely wrong. As posted already this has been in the works for some time, it's nothing new and is just a split off program from air force. Anyway I'll leave you to have your two minute hate.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Friday July 24 2020, @09:58PM (1 child)
IMO, we should be going the opposite direction. Future battlefields will evolve over hours or minutes, rather than months or days. We need complete coordination between all involved forces, with rapid and efficient communication and decision making. That would benefit greatly from merging the forces rather than further dividing them.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday July 25 2020, @09:41AM
Rely on that and you'll have a complete meltdown when your communication is cut or jammed.
Much cheaper for the attacker to cause you troubles than for you to maintain real-time large bandwidth communication.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @06:11AM (1 child)
Are you learning Madarin yet? Don't want that to catch you by surprise when your dreams are fullfilled.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday July 25 2020, @03:57PM
对了. 你呢？
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday July 25 2020, @10:48AM
The Space Force was not President Trump's idea, although he did latch onto it. At this point, the Space Force pseudo-branch will be with us for decades to come.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force#Independence_(2019%E2%80%93present) [wikipedia.org]
Why the military's Space Corps isn't dead yet [thehill.com] (2017)
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(Score: 4, Insightful) by RamiK on Friday July 24 2020, @06:38PM (20 children)
Too close to the Marine Corps' Semper Fidelis and gets rather ridiculous if you know your Games Workshop Warhammer 40k Space Marines fluff.
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(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday July 24 2020, @07:50PM (10 children)
The U.S. has defacto held the high ground in space since 1969 - to have to strut around a special branch of the military to reiterate that smacks of a creeping insecurity that it may no longer be true.
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(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @08:47PM (1 child)
"The U.S. has defacto held the high ground in flight since 1903 - to have to strut around a special branch of the military to reiterate that smacks of a creeping insecurity that it may no longer be true."
-- someone in 1947
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday July 24 2020, @08:57PM
In 1947 we were far from "in control of the air..." My grandfather was drafted into the Army Air Corps shortly before the Air Force was branched off.
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(Score: 2) by HiThere on Friday July 24 2020, @08:57PM (5 children)
It isn't clearly true anymore of the US military. SpaceX might reasonably claim to currently be pretty securely in the lead among the non-military, but when it comes to the military, the US has been dragging it's feet. (Not that that's an inherently bad thing. Kessler syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome [wikipedia.org] is a real possibility. And many possible space based weapons are indiscriminately destructive. It isn't too good if a strike on your opponent on the other side of the world boils a cubic mile or two of ocean in a couple of minutes. [For that one think asteroid impact.])
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday July 25 2020, @10:59AM (4 children)
Let's take 1.5 cubic miles at 25C as the starting temperature.
To evaporate that water, you'll need to bring it to boils () then evaporate it - water is a bitch, latent heat of evaporation (2.26 MJ/kg) is so much higher than the specific heat (4.184 KJ/Kg·K - for a ΔT = 75K, you only need 0.3138 MJ/kg) that I'm going to ignore it.
So how may kg in a 1.5Mile3? Well that's about 6.25222611849·109m3 (at 1609.34m/mile) of water, or 6.25·1012 kg of water.
So to evaporate 1.5Mile3, one will need 14.125·1012MJ or 14.125·1018J. To put it in perspective, that's the energy of a matter/antimatter bomb with a total mass of 157kg.
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Let's suppose you stop an asteroid in the belt from orbiting the Sun (a valiant display of energy control on its own) and let it free-fall onto Earth - what mass that asteroid need to be? Ceres has an orbital radius of 413.7·109m (and Earth's orbit is about 150·109m in radius. At a Sun mass of 2·1030kg and the gravitational constant of 6.673middot;10-11, a kg in freefall between the two orbits will net you a paltry 0.567·109J. So your freefalling asteroid will need a mass of 24.9·109kg.
(I'll let you ponder what energy you'll need to spend to alter the orbit of an asteroid in the asteroid belt on a collision course with Earth's orbit. If you are capable of such a feat, a much better use of that energy would be to dump it directly on your enemy).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday July 25 2020, @01:48PM (3 children)
Excellent calculations that miss the point. 1/16 of a cublic mile of water is still so bad that it doesn't stay localized, and targeting it is difficult. I didn't want to pick any place in particular, but most plausible targets are close to an ocean. The Chicxulub impactor was about 10 – 15 km (6 – 10 miles) in diameter, and I was envisioning something considerably smaller. And it's still overkill.
Many space based weapons are overkill with wide dispersion and difficult to target. Precision targeting isn't usually really a plausible assumption. As for "dumping the energy directly on the enemy", that's pretty much was a meteor impact is...if your aim is good. Lasers are a lot less efficient, and building them gives warning.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday July 26 2020, @12:11AM (2 children)
Speaking about missing the point - as of today, no nation is capable of energies required to deflect a meteor towards Earth, much less doing it with enough precision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday July 26 2020, @01:43PM (1 child)
I think you overestimate the energy required. I'll admit that application is beyond current state of the art, but small amounts of energy applied at appropriate points of the orbit could do it even with the modest amounts of energy currently available. (Of course, it might take a few decades to do the job.)
Actually, I'd need to study the matter a bit but I think that if the asteroid is rotating (which almost all are) that there are angles at each rotation that could be usefully used to perturb the orbit in many directions. Thinking a bit more, though, it might be more like centuries.
Still, if you're only considering near-term dangers I'll admit that something like "rods from god" is potentially much more near term. And again I figure that it would have a huge circular error, though it's not going to directly cause a global disaster. Indirectly, however, even setting something like that up is likely to cause someone to trigger a Kessler syndrome.
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(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday July 26 2020, @02:03PM
No, I don't think so. If you pick an asteroid from the belt, you'll need to "convince" it to change its momentum (at least as direction) to intersect Earth's orbit - in other words, to push it towards the Sun. That Δv (as vector) is going to cost somewhere the same order of magnitude with the difference in the potential energy between the two orbits.
When it comes to the time required to deliver the energy, if it takes decades, not only it's useless as strategy, but aiming it with enough precision against your enemy is totally out of the picture.
Even Lazy Dogs [wikipedia.org] launched from stratospheric balloons has better chances to deliver some damage to your enemy that asteroid bombardment. Be it only that you'll need to spend a multimillion rocket to down it and the attacker only needs a few $1000 to launch it from international waters on a wind that will get it over your territory somewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 3, Touché) by jelizondo on Friday July 24 2020, @09:46PM (1 child)
Except the almost 10 years U.S. astronauts had to use Russian rockets [wired.com] to get to space!
Quoting Santayna: "Those who can not remember the past are condemn to repeat it."
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Friday July 24 2020, @10:29PM
Manned space travel always has been political showboating... the real power is in remote controlled systems.
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 24 2020, @09:10PM (7 children)
Got no idea what all that Warhammer stuff is - but it's still ridiculous. Semper Fi has been bought and paid for with Marine blood. When those space cadets bleed some, maybe I'll agree that they've earned the use of some high-sounding slogan. Go ahead, boys, paint the moon red. Oh, wait, is blood still red when exposed to vacuum, or near vacuum? Rust red maybe?
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(Score: 2) by VLM on Friday July 24 2020, @09:29PM (3 children)
Whew... you've got acres and acres of tasty memes to learn about. Like... you probably don't get the "God Emperor" memes at all... Luckily there's probably 500000 pages of ebook lore available for reading. Its very light stuff, but often entertaining.
Imagine if you and a million of your friends played Monopoly the board game and liked it so much, that the market currently supports 10K pages of fan fic lore each for the boot token, the thimble token, the little car token, each spot on the game board for example Ventnor Avenue, etc.
The lore authors are skilled enough that its not bad for light entertainment. Better than watching TV although thats a pretty low bar LOL.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 24 2020, @09:40PM (2 children)
I always thought the God Emperor referenced the Dune series of stories. Ehhh, Maybe I go look.
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(Score: 2) by VLM on Friday July 24 2020, @09:59PM (1 child)
Yes there is a God Emperor in Dune.
Much like faster than light travel, the meme of god-leader is popular idea in sci fi.
Apparently the ancient Egyptians started the meme quite awhile ago and it spread thru the world, its not strictly sci fi LOL.
How the ancient Egyptians came up with that weird idea is a good one to ponder when you're bored. Its a strange idea if you've never heard of it... Of course they also came up with weird stuff like humans with heads of jackals and making really freak'n huge piles of stacked bricks, so who knows where those weirdos got their ideas.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Sunday July 26 2020, @01:50PM
I call it the "big baboon theory". Many troops of primates are usually lead by a dominant male, with nominally absolute authority. (The nominal is because they are often overthrown if those lead get too unhappy. In some groups they often survive the loss of authority. [I don't remember whether that's true of baboons.])
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(Score: 2) by RamiK on Friday July 24 2020, @10:50PM (2 children)
WH40K's Space Marines are "humanity's elite fighting forces" that so happen to be a bunch of genetically modified sterile cyborgs that had their memories wiped before having their base instincts rewired to find ecstasy in murder and indoctrinated into leading an endless genocidal war against the enemies of the too-slow-to-collapse authoritarian theocracy Imperium Of Man: Aliens, Heretics and Mutants.
Essentially the entirety of WH40K's universe is a grim dark humanity-gone-horribly-wrong future with anything remotely "good" being a macabre dystopian parody in a Heinlein's Starship Troopers vain so while the "bad" is just tragic failures so any real world military that finds itself connoting to anything from that fiction should seriously ask itself are we the baddies? [youtube.com].
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(Score: 2) by Mojibake Tengu on Saturday July 25 2020, @12:55AM (1 child)
On the table, Tau nearly always beat the Marines to dust.
Superior ships, superior technology, superior tactics, superior religion.
Well, maybe superior players too ;)
The edge of 太玄 cannot be defined, for it is beyond every aspect of design
(Score: 2) by RamiK on Saturday July 25 2020, @09:39AM
Superior players pick the best army the rules provide for competitions so that much is a given :D
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(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday July 25 2020, @04:08PM
"Semper" is used in the mottos of other branches. The Coast Guard's is "Semper Paratus." The Navy's is "Semper Fortis." I think there are others.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Friday July 24 2020, @07:16PM (9 children)
There was a guy who had a space debate website, with arguments for ideas such as, gasp, not weaponizing space at all.
ha ha ha, lets all have a good laugh.
No really, we are going to put almost entirely weaspons into space, all of the time, everywhere, even if they hurt us, even if they destroy the universe, even if they attract alien species more powerful than we can imagine, even if, well, anything, no matter what space is being weaponized.
Same for making killer autonomous robots.
All cautionary tales aside..., no really, all cautionary tales are being ignored completely and entirely.
"this hunter killer is lose in our neighborhood and it is being shot at by a hunter killer in space, no one knows whose side any of them are on but they sure kill a lot of humans" on the 5 oclock news, for the win, any day now.
civilians? pff, we are just t argets waiting to walk into the wrong zone or be rezoned into one, just like all of the other robots.
All of human history, the entire occupation of studying the past not to repeat mistakes or let pandora out of the box, out the window. Was a fun idea while it lasted, here is our new motto:
"Waiting 24/7 for a reason to kill you or accidentally fall on you from the sky so the chinese dont get there first"
How does that sound in latin? Probably better than what they came up with.
(Score: 2, Troll) by VLM on Friday July 24 2020, @08:47PM (4 children)
More like commsats
I was in the army and like space so I know more than I should about military satcom.
Its a mess. It works, somehow, most of the time, but its a mess. The Army asks the Air Force pretty please to coordinate satcom time sometimes. Meanwhile the Navy naturally has its own systems it shares with no one, well, maybe the Marines. Naturally the Marines satcom system is separate from the Army satcom system for no apparent reason plus or minus interop plans.
The point is there shouldn't be an interoperability plan that works most of the time at great effort.
Most of the arguments against the space force boil down to :
1) Orange man bad, orange man didn't arrive until the public kickoff although the project is much older than orange man bad. Did I mention orange man bad? Gimmie Karma for my virtue signalling. Only the best people hate the orange man for his skin color because only racists don't hate based on orange skin color, and by association only the best people hate some obscure corner of national defense like the space force. Eyes roll till they fall out LOL
2) The defense department does all kinds of stupid shit like buy jet fighters for our "Navy's Army's Air Force" instead of leveraging the larger real air force like a civilized organization would. The argument seems to be the defense department has weaponized doing random stupid shit to keep the opfor off balance, because our guys are smarter and more professional than any realistic opfor so we handle our own randomness better than any opfor could handle our randomness. Its a pretty weak argument. Doing stupid things shouldn't be our secret weapon. Its time for a space force instead of rando decentralized semi-uncoordinated craziness.
Anyone who's ever worked a "big corporate project" like I have knows the most important thing is a stable sane demarcation point between areas of expertise and authority. A national space force makes the most sense compared to any reasonable alternative.
Now if you REALLY want to piss people off, I wrote a long format term paper proposal decades ago to spin off and merge the multiple DOD logistics systems into a "Logistics force". Both the USAR and Marine Corps having light infantry is pretty stupid, but its even crazier for them to have separate quartermaster systems. Like no shit the beans and bullets of one squad in Iraq is completely separate from another squad at the highest levels. Dumb, just dumb.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Friday July 24 2020, @09:02PM (2 children)
Weren't the Orange Men one of the factions keeping the troubles in Ireland going for so long?
Bad.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Friday July 24 2020, @09:22PM
LOL in a similar sense that the people who got their property burned down by antifa were keeping the troubles in Minnesota going for so long, LOL.
The orangemen got a raw deal, kicked out from home to colonize a land that generally wants them genocided impoverished and removed. Their situation just kinda suxs all around for everyone on all the sides.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @11:38PM
Is Donald the Orange related to William of Orange?
(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Tuesday July 28 2020, @02:58PM
This is all a result of being able to print money and having no effective civilian oversight.
This is due to the petrodollar being able to be printed infinitely.
This will not last forever as only finite growth is allowed in the universe.
The same forces have made it impossible for any civilians to create treaties that de-escalate, so here we sit, on the brink of war, devastation, with no end in sight.
This was predicted by people like myself in high school in the 90s, this is why the UN criminal court, the hague, the nuremberg trials were important, but all of those lessons are forgotten and the weapons are only more dangerous.
People from the future will ask "why did no one ask questions" and if you ask a soldier in duty right now a question, he will run out of the room screaming in fear. Noble effort to write the paper and introduce efficiency, but on the other hand, there is a class of non-soldiers, and non-americans, who have gotten quite rich off the status quo and they are sitting out all of the effects of their handiwork in very safe places.
Why anyone would die to protect or defend such a system, as I have said elsewhere, "our incompetence confuses the enemy so much they will not know what to do, charge!" and "epstein is with your daughter tonight" are hardly morale inducing cries.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 24 2020, @09:13PM
Congratulations, JMichael. That may be the most rational post you have ever made on SN.
Alas, right or wrong, mankind is going to take weaponry and violence into space. We are mankind, after all.
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(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Friday July 24 2020, @09:36PM (2 children)
Yes, funny. What is the most likely long term result of not protecting [space] assets?
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(Score: 2) by jmichaelhudsondotnet on Tuesday July 28 2020, @03:07PM (1 child)
Put like this, yeah china wins, or whoever.
But really the point of civilian politics is not to fight and to gradually establish a peaceful stalemate.
The world we live in now is the result of decades of peace-process failure, and sabotage of said process, by forces who are using this chaos to expand their borders.
(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Tuesday July 28 2020, @04:16PM
Not disagreeing.
But changing this unilaterally leads to very predictable (and very undesirable) results.
With two 'superpowers' you could potentially do things bi-laterally (barely), but that ship has sailed.
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(Score: 1) by RandomFactor on Friday July 24 2020, @07:36PM (5 children)
Reads better than my idea - Tenemus iuga. (We hold the heights)
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(Score: 2) by Bot on Friday July 24 2020, @07:59PM
I'm more along the
FVLGVR: NECARIS
idea (in contemporary English, FLASH: UR DED)
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(Score: 2) by VLM on Friday July 24 2020, @09:01PM (2 children)
W40K lore has much better space marine quotes
Well replace tanks with comsats and spysats for our new space force, but whatever.
(TDS victims love the above)
Kinda long but they'll probably make them memorize something like the two above at space force basic training. Plus or minus W40K copyright issues.
Not really a space force quote but the above is popular among the 25 series MOS "IT guys carrying M4s"
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday July 25 2020, @11:19AM (1 child)
Nothing a good EMP can't take care.
Ummm... remind me, what good were those com/spy sats when it came to fighting the low tech talibans? Because it seems that negotiation [cfr.org] was a lot cheaper that about those almost 20 years of war in Afghanistan.
But, meh, the MiC needs to eat well, the American plebes need to provide for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0
(Score: 2) by VLM on Sunday July 26 2020, @02:27PM
Those comsats and navsats meant we did a lot better than the Soviets. They lost, we just kinda got tired of being riot cops forever.
It seems a hard learned lesson of both Vietnam (US) and Afghanistan (USSR and US) is that stone age cultures that have resisted all forms of progress for centuries are not really vulnerable to invasion by modern cultures. If they've avoided inventing the wheel for centuries despite other countries progress, merely showing up and invading for a couple years isn't going to change any ideology or whatever. I think China is trying to learn that in Africa now.
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Saturday July 25 2020, @02:04AM
Now that sounds like some Harry Potter spell.
Or the name of the new IKEA couch.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday July 24 2020, @08:01PM (2 children)
I guess it sounds better than 'Semper Vega'
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @08:54PM
Maybe our Space Forc3 will have Toyota made spaceships.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @01:30AM
Pulmenti Diei
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by VLM on Friday July 24 2020, @09:12PM (2 children)
I'm surprised no one is triggered yet that the AFSC logo and thus the new Space Force logo is basically the Trek Federation logo photoshopped enough to not cause copyright issues. Probably.
"Janeway would never have voted for Orange Man Bad" and similar TDS symptoms.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 24 2020, @09:54PM
Janeway wouldn't, but Kirk & Picard would.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday July 25 2020, @10:53AM
They did point that out and there was much merriment on Twitter, but it was repeatedly debunked:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51245262 [bbc.com]
https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/23/21335338/united-states-space-force-star-trek-delta-symbol-air-force-space-command [theverge.com]
[SIG] 10/28/2017: Soylent Upgrade v14 [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Friday July 24 2020, @09:50PM
Sounds like some silly schitzls right there.
Now for something important:
Mother gives birth in microgravity. Mothers and babies spend inordinate hours, studying each other's faces. How will it affect mother and child relations, when they see each other "upside down" as often as not?
Abortion is the number one killed of children in the United States.
(Score: 2) by Opportunist on Saturday July 25 2020, @02:02AM (1 child)
Really? Can't help it, but it sounds like something straight out of a Warhammer 40k source book.
Do we get to anoint the rockets with the holy oil to appease the machine spirit now, too?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @03:37AM
> The Space Force motto "Semper Supra" means "always above."
Always above is going to sound pretty stupid in the Asteroid belt or on Mars. Pretty shortsighted to pick a motto that only works in Earth orbit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @02:19AM
-nt
(Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 25 2020, @02:35AM
I would post a comment, but I'm above that sort of thing.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 26 2020, @07:32PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Nj7z0p4w/Screen-Shot-2020-07-25-at-1-38-10-AM.png [postimg.cc]