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[Editor's note: This is a follow-on to the story George Floyd Dead - Officers Fired and Charged - Discuss it Here that we ran on June 2, 2020. With 385 comments, it was the 5th-most-discussed story in the history of SoylentNews. All four of the officers involved were fired from the police force and are facing charges for the death.
New body-cam footage has come to light, exclusively on DailyMail.com. The two videos there fill in gaps from the previously-released footage.
In light of the interest when we first ran the story, the continuing "Black Lives Matter" protests, and the information this brings to light, I have decided to run this story.
NOTE: Each news organization has their own "take" on the killing. This coverage from DailyMail.com is no exception; read it with a heaping helping of the proverbial "grain of salt". It has been excerpted here without elision so as to not add any additional "spin".
WARNING: Please be aware the video content is disturbing; viewer discretion is advised. --martyb]
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Police Bodycam Footage Shows George Floyd Arrest In Detail:
WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT. DailyMail.com has obtained video from the body cameras of two officers involved in the arrest of George Floyd that ultimately led to his death on May 25 in Minneapolis.
[...] Bodycam footage from two cops accused in the murder of George Floyd is revealed exclusively by DailyMail.com today — and it shows a rookie officer terrifying Floyd by pointing a handgun at his head and another callously picking a pebble from the squad car tire just inches from the dying man and seconds before he draws his last breath.
The tapes show in minute detail how a very distressed Floyd begs 'Mr. Officer, please don't shoot me. Please man,' before the struggle that ended with his death on May 25.
It also shows how belligerent cops cursed at and manhandled the sobbing suspect, ignoring his pleas for compassion.
Floyd resisted as the cops tried to force him into the back of the car, telling them he suffers from claustrophobia and anxiety and how Officer Derek Chauvin knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes, leading to his death, ignoring Floyd's repeated cries of 'I can't breathe.'
Floyd is even heard predicting his own death. 'I'll probably just die this way,' he says.
Transcripts from the videos were released in mid-July but a judge in Minneapolis had ruled the video could only be viewed in the courthouse, meaning few people have had the chance to watch the powerful images.
But the footage has now been leaked to DailyMail.com so the world can finally see the tragedy of Floyd's last minutes as the cops were mindless of Floyd's anguish.
The footage includes more than 18 minutes from Officer Alex Kueng's bodycam and 10 minutes from Officer Thomas Lane. They were the first two cops to arrive on the scene after a complaint that Floyd had attempted to pass a fake $20 bill to buy cigarettes at Cup Foods, a store in the Powderhorn Park section of Minneapolis.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by looorg on Thursday August 06 2020, @02:21PM (1 child)
I'm not saying their autopsy wasn't real. I'm saying it's not the official autopsy, which is really the only one that matters. It's not a first to leak/release that becomes the first or the official one. I note here that you skate on the issue of that the family (or independent) autopsy might also be flawed. So it's only the one made for the police that is bad and manipulated to suit some agenda?
Since he complained about breathing problems they had to summon an ambulance. So they had to wait for that. If he had just said nothing, been cuffed, said nothing again when put in the police car and being taken to the station he would most likely still be alive and this wouldn't have been an issue at all. They didn't summon the ambulance cause they liked to, or is this part of your conspiracy to -- summon the ambulance to give them time to slowly asphyxiate him? They did summon it cause he complained about health issues. So they did indeed follow procedure. Just cause you summon the ambulance doesn't mean it instantly teleports onto the scene. This isn't sci-fi. While waiting for it to arrive they have to control him and the scene. Nothing weird with that.
Unless you can prove it wasn't then yes it was normal circumstances and conditions. But once again you believe there is some kind of conspiracy to murder him. The evidence for that seems thin at best. If they knew each other why didn't they call each other by name? If they (whomever they are in your conspiracy) had wanted him to die he could have just waited and let all the fentanyl take him. But apparently there was some kind of rush to murder him on the spot, for some unknown reason.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday August 07 2020, @05:01AM
They didn't have to kill Floyd while they were waiting. It's not standard procedure to hope your perp doesn't have a medical condition after calling an ambulance for it. If it was serious enough a concern to disrupt the arrest procedures to wait for an ambulance, it was a serious enough concern to modify how they controlled Floyd while they waited for that ambulance. Nor as repeatedly has been noted was that "control" any sort of proper procedure.
Chauvin will likely be facing a decade or more in jail and he will deserve that for callous disregard for human life.
The obvious rebuttal is that the death of Floyd proves circumstances and conditions were abnormal. It's possible for that abnormality to occur in a way that absolves involved police officers. But that's not the case here. We have
That is quite the rub, isn't it? My scenario would explain why. Because if they showed that they knew each other - in front of a video phone, then Chauvin and the other officers on the scene might get caught.
You clearly can't think about this, instead making dumbass assertions about procedure, "control", and normality, so I think we're about at the end of this discussion. To summarize my side, Chauvin killed a man which he could have easily saved merely by changing how he pinned Floyd to the ground. He wasn't following procedure with this dangerous hold. And there's been a vast amount of excuse making and victim-blaming - speaking of Floyd's alleged medical conditions, drug use, and mental state (the blanket excuse of "excited delirium"). Even in absence of any proof of intent to kill, we still have second degree murder.
But as I repeatedly point out, a reasonable explanation for Chauvin's actions is that he intended to kill Floyd, because Floyd was a dangerous loose cannon.