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After delisting Mulan from a potential theatrical run in June, Disney has firmed up its plans for its newest live-action remake. Starting September 4, Mulan will premiere exclusively on Disney+ in various territories, including the United States, Canada, and New Zealand, according to Disney CEO Bob Chapek.
Unlike other Disney+ streaming premieres, however, Mulan will launch with an extra price point on top of the service's $7/mo subscription rate. Paying Disney+ users in the US will have to fork over an additional $30 for what Chapek described as "premiere access,"
which likely equates to a temporary rental of the film instead of full-blown ownership a la platforms like iTunes and Amazon Video. Other territories' rates have not yet been confirmed. (Chapek took the opportunity to confirm that Disney+'s worldwide subscriber numbers are somewhere near 60.5 million.)[Update, 9:30pm ET: Disney has since confirmed that a $30 payment for Mulan will permanently unlock it in your Disney+ account, so long as you remain a paying subscriber.]
The beginning of the end of movie theaters?
(Score: 5, Funny) by fustakrakich on Thursday August 06 2020, @06:57AM (4 children)
How much for the torrent?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @07:04AM (3 children)
$250,000
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @12:13PM (2 children)
I boycotted anything Disney after my last trip to SoCal Disneyland. It's a fucking overpriced theme park overcrowded with rude, stinky people who pee all over the floor in the bathrooms, and a medium french fry costs $15.
P1r@736@y
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:15PM (1 child)
And how did you like Disneyland?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:22PM
It was weird. [thisiscolossal.com]
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @07:09AM (6 children)
I've been to the cinema twice in the last 3 years.
Your movies suck, Hollywood.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @07:16AM (2 children)
> Your movies suck, China
FTFY [theguardian.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @01:47PM (1 child)
Honest question, why replace Hollywood with China? Do their corporations really own that much of the movie industry?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:17PM
I guess if you don't want your movie banned in The Pure and Great Peepole's Republic, you pre-censor your plot to maintain The Great Purity of the Peepole.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:39PM (2 children)
It is going to be even worse this year until late next year.
They put everything on hold. Pretty much anything 'in the can' is getting shipped to VoD and quickly disc thereafter. But as I said everything else is on hold. Pretty much all production has stopped dead. Movies take 1-2 years to make sometimes longer. A basically 6 month gap at this point (which looks to be turning into a 1 year gap) is going to inside out the whole industry. Not just theaters.
I know I am a kind of quirky one I like to own my own media. But many people I know will not watch something twice. "i have seen that". They are pretty good forever never seeing that movie/show again. VoD gets them so far as there is a good sized catalog of stuff. But if your already fickle audience does not get 'new stuff' they will get bored and wander off.
It is going to be a bloodbath in hollyweird.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday August 06 2020, @05:17PM
Granted, a lot of movies are not worth seeing twice.
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Friday August 07 2020, @05:28PM
I'm one of those, I've already seen that crows. Except for a very select few movies. Now, if I liked the movie well enough, I'm up for watching it with someone who hasn't watched it before. I'm just not much into watching the same thing over and over.
Of course, I'm a dad, so all shows that kiddo can watch are an exception. Thankfully, I don't believe in letting my kid watch mindnumbingly stupid things like Barney, et al.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Frosty Piss on Thursday August 06 2020, @07:51AM (9 children)
People are out of work, and this movie is so shit hot they want $30 for it? It’s just this kind of bullshit as to why theaters where having issues filling seats before the fucking pandemic. $100 to take the family to see a shitty movie and eat shitty popcorn? All these monstrous CGI atrocities with plastic “stars”... Fuck Hollywood. If I decide I need to see this “blockbuster”, I find the torrent.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by ledow on Thursday August 06 2020, @08:00AM (7 children)
Haven't been to a cinema in years. When I did, it was because there was a 50p ticket deal. It was, surprisingly, quite a nice experience as there was almost nobody in the theatre. No wonder they had to give tickets away. And it was for a big-name movie only a week after release, in a major city cinema, at a decent time in the evening.
Still, without those kinds of discounts, I wasn't going to see it.
But $30 to watch it *at home* on equipment I paid for? Nah. I haven't paid that much for a movie ever, let alone one I have to set up myself, or one I've never seen before (it might be utter junk!).
It's like these $80 games... er... nope. Sorry. Too much. Especially years after release. When it comes down into about a quarter of that, and I know whether the thing is any good, then we can talk.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Unixnut on Thursday August 06 2020, @10:12AM (6 children)
Same here, last went to a cinema as a teenager.
Then at uni we managed to "borrow" one of the spare projectors and set it up in the common room. It was only 800x600, but it was good enough for us. Spent ages watching movie matinees after lectures.
Now I bought my own home projector (a nice 1080p 3LCD unit), and it provides an experience close enough to the cinema, while giving me far more comfy seats (with the best view), whatever food and drink I want to bring, and the magic "pause" button if people need a loo break, etc...
The cinema offers me nothing above that. Possibly only better surround sound, but that's about it. The screen, while larger, and the resolution higher, is offset by the distance I sit from it, and also the fact that unless you get in early, chances are you will be in some awkward corner that will just give you neck ache after a while. Then you got the people fiddling on their phone, those who incessantly talk through the film, and those who aren't interested in the film and just mess about.
Only time I would consider a cinema is possibly when starting to date someone, and we are not yet comfortable going to each others place, but want to watch a movie together. Even when I want to watch a movie with friends, its better at my place. I really don't see much of a future for cinema.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday August 06 2020, @05:29PM (5 children)
I am near-sighted. My eyes focus at about 15 centimetres. So I take off my glasses and watch movies on my tablet. From 15 centimetres, the tablet is a wide screen.
Now if only I could get the tablet to talk sshfs so I could get access to the video I have on my hard drive!
And if only I could get the tablet to float comfortably in front of my face so my arm doesn't get so tired!
Currently watching Sailor Moon R.
I can pause it when I'm tired or need a bathroom break, and resume later.
Day before yesterday the Crunchyroll streaming service was inaccessible. Maybe Isaias damaged some network connexions? A DVD would not have been shut down. Neither was my hard drive. Downloading could be better, except for Android's networking limitations. Even when the streaming service allows downloading, tablets have *so little storage* it's not very useful.
Yes, I'm using an old-fashioned spelling of connexion.
-- hendrik
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @06:02PM
Crunchyroll is known to be unreliable. It was still using a Flash player until recently.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @05:07AM
You can use VLC to stream directly from SMB, DLNA etc. on both iOS and Android.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Unixnut on Friday August 07 2020, @06:04AM
Try using VLC. I generally find it useless on most "proper" machines (laptops/desktops/etc...), but on a tablet/mobile phone, it one of the better media apps. It specifically supports SMB/NFS and other protocols. Unfortunately I could not get it to work with NFS despite all my attempts (my network is pure NFS), so in the end I set up samba on my server just for it. It works fine, I use it to stream videos to my bedroom when I can't sleep (I hold no media on the phone itself).
In my case, I attached my phone to two square bars of balsa wood, which I attached to my bed frame, so I can lie back in bed and watch without holding it up for ages (I would get the "tired arm" issue as well). Same thing should be doable with a tablet.
(Score: 2) by stretch611 on Saturday August 08 2020, @05:04AM (1 child)
Actually, I find Kodi pretty good for this.
All you need to do is have a server on your home network and connect via wifi. Kodi will connect to NFS without any problem if you have a linux file server.
Now with 5 covid vaccine shots/boosters altering my DNA :P
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Sunday August 23 2020, @02:18AM
Last time I used NFS it had trouble communicating reliably between machines with differing numerical UIDs. Is this still a problem? Nowadays I use sshfs, which doesn't seem to be supported as far as I can see.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @05:40AM
Being able to show new big-name movies at your house to relatives and friends is a status symbol. It's not about the flick itself.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by ledow on Thursday August 06 2020, @07:55AM (8 children)
"Disney has since confirmed that a $30 payment for Mulan will permanently unlock it in your Disney+ account, so long as you remain a paying subscriber."
Which is ridiculous, and the biggest problem I have with such subscription services. Just stopping paying shouldn't lose everything you "bought". Just the eligibility to access it. Pay again, and you should get back the library you always had. It's not costing them anything if you can't use it, it's just a bunch of bits on a disk somewhere among millions of others. When you want to stream it, of course there's a cost, but why do you lose eligibility to what you'd previously had, because one month you had a tight month and cut a non-essential?
That's just blatant profiteering.
If Steam had even a token subscription where that happened, then I would never have bought anything on that service. As it is, I can "not use" their services for years if I want, and then still have the same entitlements when I do restart. And it costs them money to provide that account, for no money in return, whereas Disney+ are being PAID all the time the account is in active use.
$30 + a constant ongoing subscription and you can still lose that forever because you had to pay bills.
It's to guilt/extort people into paying it... they'll sign up for the kids, the kids will want to watch that new movie, then they are required to keep paying forever if their kids liked it and want to rewatch it (as kids do). Don't let your account slip, or it's gone forever and you have to buy it all over again. So now is it cheaper to let it expire and buy it later (no, it's Disney!), or just keep paying the protection money?
Horrible business practice from a company that should really know better (but never has).
(Score: 2) by rigrig on Thursday August 06 2020, @09:08AM (3 children)
Also, next year they will be launching Disney++ (pronounced Disney DoublePlus) and new content will only be made available there.
Your previously "bought" Disney+ content won't be migrated though, so you'll have to keep paying that subscription as well.
No one remembers the singer.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:21PM (2 children)
Then one day the Disney+ servers will be turned off. And all the beautiful princesses will fall into a deep, deep sleep.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @04:34AM
... Then one day, Prince Piracy arrives and gives her a kiss. She then wakes up, and is promptly pimped out on a thousand servers where thousands more couriers wait to deliver her to eagerly waiting 30+ incels needing new material to jack it to.
(Score: 2) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday August 07 2020, @03:54PM
Only after Disney discovers a way to charge people all over again for stories which are decades upon decades old.
This sig for rent.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:02PM (3 children)
It's a classic story. Big lovable guy, everyone likes him. Then one day someone talks him in to snorting a few lines of co-cash and he's hooked. Unfortunately, co-cash brings out a mean side to his personality, and an ever growing hunger for more co-cash means that soon he's screwing everyone over for his next hit. Next comes the lying, cheating, and stealing.....
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @04:24PM
...turning tricks in the parking lot. Eventually our hero finds himself trafficking underage girls to billionaire movie producers.
(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday August 06 2020, @05:32PM (1 child)
Is that the category-theoretical dual for cash?
Please explain how to turn the arrows around.
(Score: 2) by sjames on Friday August 07 2020, @02:42AM
Imagine cocaine only greener and twice as addictive for susceptible individuals..
Various flavors are used as legal tender around the world.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @08:25AM (1 child)
It's going straight to video?
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @01:19PM
$30 to see it, $60 not to see it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @01:16PM (1 child)
Nevermind
(Score: 2) by takyon on Thursday August 06 2020, @02:23PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51707188 [bbc.com]
https://www.cbr.com/mulan-star-celebrating-hong-kong-return-to-motherland/ [cbr.com]
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2020/07/689_292328.html [koreatimes.co.kr]
Fans of the animated film will hate it, China critics will boycott it, and China itself probably won't watch it either. This might have been a bomb even without the pandemic, but now it's just an experiment to see what people WON'T pay to rent a VOD.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by ilsa on Thursday August 06 2020, @02:22PM (4 children)
> will permanently unlock it in your Disney+ account, so long as you remain a paying subscriber.]
So.... NOT permanent. I'm sorry but if you're going to charge me that kind of money for a product, I damn well expect to keep it for life without dependency on a subscription. The fact that they think they can get away with this says much about how they perceive themselves in the marketplace. How accurate that is, I can't say since I don't pay that close attention, but I suspect it's distressingly accurate. People will drop hundreds of dollars on meaningless virtual goods like smurfberries, after all.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Unixnut on Thursday August 06 2020, @03:54PM (3 children)
It really is abusing the word "permanent" here. Then again, I am find more and more words being redefined so that they mean different things to different people. It makes any kind of agreement or communication almost impossible, and just results in a lot of arguments and bad relations between people.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @07:42PM (2 children)
It really does seem to beg the question where this all began.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @11:20PM (1 child)
Doesn't count when you're doing it just to bait Aristarchus. You know what's coming, don't you? Of course you do. When did you first realize you could troll Ari by just mis-using "begs the question"?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 07 2020, @08:35PM
Well, it was intentionally subtle, but at least you got the joke. Not the person who modded me "Disagree", though.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 06 2020, @03:19PM (3 children)
Is this a new Mulan, not the one from 1998? That one already stomped hard on the "woman does stuff men don't allow her to do" angle. The original Chinese story's message was doing your duty for your family, and that in battle you don't have time to make a distinction between male and female.
(Score: 5, Informative) by takyon on Thursday August 06 2020, @05:02PM (2 children)
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51707188 [bbc.com]
It has been modified for the #MeToo era, because you can't have romance between a boss and a subordinate anymore.
The talking dragon and other aspects have been removed/changed to make it more palatable for the Chinese market.
Huns aren't the enemy AFAIK which would solve this problem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulan_(1998_film)#Controversy_in_Turkey [wikipedia.org]
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(Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday August 06 2020, @05:34PM (1 child)
Does this mean that the original Mulan movie has now become inaccessible?
(Score: 3, Funny) by takyon on Thursday August 06 2020, @05:56PM
Nah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulan_(1998_film)#Home_media [wikipedia.org]
+torrentz subscripshun
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(Score: 3, Funny) by All Your Lawn Are Belong To Us on Friday August 07 2020, @03:57PM
.... Will we once again see Szechuan Sauce from McDonald's actually and really available? Or will the savvy inter-dimensional traveler have to get brainalyzed to make that happen?
This sig for rent.