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posted by Fnord666 on Friday August 21 2020, @06:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the oops-our-bad-sorry dept.

Adobe Lightroom iOS update permanently deleted users' photos:

A recent update to the Adobe Lightroom app permanently deleted some iOS users' photos and presets, an Adobe rep confirmed on the Photoshop feedback forums. Adobe has since corrected the issue, which was first spotted by PetaPixel, but not before drawing the ire of many disappointed users.

[...] Needless to say, users who had just lost photos and presets were not happy. "Rikk, we understand the announcement, however this doesn't solve the problem," wrote Ewelina Wojtyczka. "People lost months/years of their work. Apologies will not bring it back."

Adobe hasn't further commented on the bug outside Flohr's post. [...] While Adobe shouldn't be let off the hook for this error, perhaps the importance of multiple backups is the hard lesson we can learn from this.


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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday August 21 2020, @10:08PM (18 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday August 21 2020, @10:08PM (#1040126) Journal

    Who cares? It's a better deterrent than the nickel and dime lawsuits.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by barbara hudson on Friday August 21 2020, @11:21PM (17 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday August 21 2020, @11:21PM (#1040154) Journal

    You want to put it in the public domain, you buy it. The law doesn't allow your "remedy."

    Who's going to maintain it? Just look at the 250 people laid off - Firefox is dying. And that sucks. But then again, it's been suffering from "gotta-copy~Chrome-look-and-feel" for a while. Just what are they spending their +$100,900,000-a-year from the Google default search engine deal on anyway?

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    • (Score: 2, Touché) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @12:31AM (15 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @12:31AM (#1040186) Journal

      Nope, they forfeit the license as the penalty. It should go into the public domain like all expired licenses.

      You anti free software rant is bullshit. I assume you're old enough to know where to put it

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      • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Saturday August 22 2020, @03:30AM (14 children)

        by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Saturday August 22 2020, @03:30AM (#1040262) Journal

        Interesting idea. What's the legal justification?

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        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @03:40AM (7 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @03:40AM (#1040265) Journal

          It's the same as any other lawsuit. The judgement is forfeiture of their license on the product, instead of the usual slap on the wrist 5 dollar fine.

          Their negligence goes far beyond what should be tolerated. Time for real deterrence

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          • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday August 22 2020, @01:01PM (6 children)

            by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday August 22 2020, @01:01PM (#1040347) Journal

            You really don't have a clue as to how the law works. First, you need a plaintiff with standing with probable injuries. There is none. You're free to download and fork the code. What you're not free to do is call your fork Firefox. Just look at Iceweasel as an example.

            How are you, or anyone, harmed by not being able to use the Firefox trademark? (Which is covered by trademark, not copyright).

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            • (Score: 2, Touché) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @02:57PM (5 children)

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @02:57PM (#1040396) Journal

              Please pay attention. This isn't about Firefox

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              • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:02PM (4 children)

                by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:02PM (#1040430) Journal
                Same with - you can not get a court to release copyright except to the legitimate copyright holder in the case of a disputed ownership. If everyone affected by the bug wins a big enough judgment, the court still won't seize the source code. The winners of the award would have to petition the court to place the company in bankruptcy , and the trustee will sell the code. And obviously whoever buys it will keep it closed.

                No bankruptcy trustee will be allowed to impair the value of the code by opening it up, and the creditors (including those who lost data) would oppose it because they will get far less / no money.

                Fteetards need to realize that open source has a money problem. Even if the code were released, who would maintain it, and how would you prevent 10,000 forks, reducing the value further? Look at Linux distros - how much is the average distro worth? Zero, because even though it's free, you can't even give it away to most people.

                Same thing would happen - 100 different forks, all poorly maintained, and worse, nobody to sue when your files are deleted.

                They would end up pulling a Firefox - spinning stuff off to other organizations, and slowly die.

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                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:07PM

                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:07PM (#1040433) Journal

                  We can get a court order for anything. Your shrill rant precludes any serious discussion. You're not even close to the topic. I can play it your way if you wish, but I'm not really that interested.

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                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:12PM (2 children)

                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:12PM (#1040435) Journal

                  Oh, and code can be seized just like any other asset. Feel free to accept that or not, it's no biggie

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                  • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:22PM (1 child)

                    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:22PM (#1040438) Journal

                    Nope . You'd be amazed how hard it is to seize copyright outside a legitimate dispute of ownership or a bankruptcy. Copyright works enjoy special protection. You can't just say "company x owes me money - seize the code."

                    It gets even better - some jurisdictions don't allow any copyright you own to be seized in bankruptcy. And here, the first $60,00 per year that you earn from performance of a copyright work are tax exempt at the provincial level. Making me wonder if code running on a server is considered a performance of the copyright work.

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                    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:24PM

                      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:24PM (#1040440) Journal

                      If that is true, it can all be changed. Now is the time to start.

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        • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday August 22 2020, @12:55PM (5 children)

          by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday August 22 2020, @12:55PM (#1040341) Journal

          There is no legal justification. Like all freetards, he wants everything for free and thinks that people will magically volunteer their time on an increasingly complex project that will also magically be able to decide what direction to take, what features to add and drop, etc.

          All this ignores the fact that anyone can download the source today and do what they want with it, including making a fork. It's not like it hasn't been done before. Problem is sustainability. Without the elephant (google) providing 95% of their revenue to keep them alive as a competitor for antitrust concerns (same as Microsoft bailed out Apple ) they would be broke by the end of next year.

          Making ends meet has always been a problem in the open source world. Even today, when traditional software companies are making money hand over fist.

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          • (Score: 3, Touché) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @02:59PM (4 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @02:59PM (#1040397) Journal

            If you don't like free software, don't use it.

            Your silly shrill rant is still bullshit

            And I remind you this isn't about Firefox. Cut the crap with the distractions

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            • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:14PM (3 children)

              by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:14PM (#1040436) Journal
              See my last reply. And ultimately it would be the same situation as Firefox - everyone acknowledges that once the deal with Google is over, Firefox days are numbered. Because you can't make money selling free software. The same thing would happen if Adobes source were released. Who's going to maintain it and keep it in sync with the other versions that weren't affected? Who's going to replace all the proprietary 3rd party code that even a Court couldn't order released in the event adobe went broke?

              Even if adobe said "fuck it, here's our source, hope you choke on it" they can't release 3rd party code, libraries, etc. They can't even release the code interface specs because those are also owned by 3rd parties.

              It's the same as when you and all the other idiots demanded Microsoft release the source of Windows 7. Even if they did, you would not be able to run it because of 3rd party code and libraries they can't release. And it's not like "the community " has the resources to replace those - again, lack of money money money, always money.

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              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:26PM (2 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @04:26PM (#1040442) Journal

                You are so completely off base with this Firefox rant. It does not relate in any fashion to what I am advocating. You're just poisoning the forum with that crap, trying to divert the discussion.

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                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:06PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:06PM (#1040455)

                  barbara hudson is one of the biggest trolls on this site. For some reason she seems to have some bone to pick with open source, especially the GPL. I don't think she's so much shilling, but rather is just incredibly ignorant. One of her favorite tactics is to pick on some specific open source project, in this case Firefox, then use it that to try to paint broad strokes about open source in general. I would just ignore her.

                  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:12PM

                    by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday August 22 2020, @05:12PM (#1040458) Journal

                    I can't discuss her condition without knowing if it's shtick or not. Her real name could be "Eliza" for all we know. I don't mind keeping it occupied for a while, it's a slow day

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    • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Saturday August 22 2020, @03:28AM

      by captain normal (2205) on Saturday August 22 2020, @03:28AM (#1040261)

      "gotta-copy~Chrome-look-and-feel"? Seems to me FF tried to copy Windows phone 7, then doubled down on W-P8 and W-p10.

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