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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday September 01 2020, @11:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the common-cold-/-covid-19? dept.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/08/another-covid-19-reinfection-this-time-second-infection-was-more-severe/

A 25-year-old resident of Reno, Nevada was infected with the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, two times, about 48-days apart, with the second infection causing a more severe case of COVID-19 than the first and requiring hospitalization and oxygen support.

That's according to a draft study, led by researchers at the University of Nevada and posted online. The study has not been published by a scientific journal and has not been peer-reviewed. Still, it drew quick attention from researchers, who have been examining data from the first confirmed case of a SARS-CoV-2 reinfection, reported earlier this week.
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Amid the more than 24.5 million cases worldwide, it is completely expected to find some recovered patients who are not completely protected by their immune responses and are thus vulnerable to reinfection.

The big question is: how common is this scenario?


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 01 2020, @02:09PM (8 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday September 01 2020, @02:09PM (#1044913) Homepage Journal

    No, the underlying conditions mentioned are not being male or your blood type. They are other diseases, injuries, and otherwise unhealthy medical conditions. RTFA.

    And, no, I'm not underestimating a damned thing. I'm taking and citing the best numbers available and drawing the only conclusion remotely supported by those numbers.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by RandomFactor on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:01PM (2 children)

    by RandomFactor (3682) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:01PM (#1044962) Journal

    Two things can be true at once.
     
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm [cdc.gov]
    (see Table 3)
     
    6% of Covid deaths are from Covid alone.
    94% of Covid deaths involved at least one other underlying health condition, and on average 2.6 additional conditions or causes of death.
     
    The following were listed co conditions/causes
     
            Influenza and pneumonia
            Respiratory failure
            Hypertensive disease
            Diabetes
            Vascular and unspecified dementia
            Cardiac Arrest
            Heart failure
            Renal failure
            Intentional and unintentional injury, poisoning and other adverse events
            Other medical conditions
     
    Things start to break and weaken after 50, so age makes sense for being a correlation in disease caused deaths of almost any sort, and age can certainly be correlated positively with all of the above conditions.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investigations-discovery/hospitalization-death-by-age.html [cdc.gov]
     
    Comparing just on age, a 50-64yo with covid has 30x the risk of death vs an 18-29yo.
     
    There is a correlation between blood types and disease risk seen [mit.edu] with O and AB less likely to test positive, and A at increased risk.

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  • (Score: 2) by sjames on Tuesday September 01 2020, @05:12PM (4 children)

    by sjames (2882) on Tuesday September 01 2020, @05:12PM (#1044989) Journal

    The thing is, many of those underlying conditions would never have been the patient's cause of death.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2020, @08:18PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 01 2020, @08:18PM (#1045069)

      The thing is, the patient was going to die eventually, anyway. Covid may have hastened that death, or it may not have. Roll 5 d20, any result over 96 says Covid was the killer.

      • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday September 02 2020, @12:37AM

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Wednesday September 02 2020, @12:37AM (#1045185)

        Yes, that seems to be the message from certain ...people.

        "Some of you are going to die, but that's a price I'm prepared to pay".

      • (Score: 2) by sjames on Wednesday September 02 2020, @09:21AM

        by sjames (2882) on Wednesday September 02 2020, @09:21AM (#1045308) Journal

        Everybody will die eventually, but for some reason we still try to avoid it and we still throw people in prison if they speed the process up for someone else.

        Sounds like you're the kind of generous person that will cheerfully give yourself the shirt right off of someone else's back.

    • (Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday September 01 2020, @10:23PM

      by VLM (445) on Tuesday September 01 2020, @10:23PM (#1045129)

      many of those underlying conditions would never have been the patient's cause of death.

      I was bored enough to research it, it seems to be the majority of causes of death, according to

      https://www.cdc.gov/Nchs/data/ahcd/agingtrends/06olderpersons.pdf [cdc.gov]

      Chinese Flu condition list accounts for 32 + 8 + 6 + 3 + 3 + 2 = 54% of death certificate causes

      Non-Chinese flu death certificate causes in the top 10 include cancer at 22%, Alzheimers at 3%, accidents around 2% and septicemia around 2%.

      I had to look up septicemia to figure out what it is; hell it kills about 1 in 50 Americans. Turns out its undifferentiated infection where your body starts rotting before you finish dying. That sucks. I'd be willing to "give" septicemia to either argument for or against although I felt pessimistic so I filed it as against.