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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday September 01 2020, @11:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the common-cold-/-covid-19? dept.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/08/another-covid-19-reinfection-this-time-second-infection-was-more-severe/

A 25-year-old resident of Reno, Nevada was infected with the pandemic coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, two times, about 48-days apart, with the second infection causing a more severe case of COVID-19 than the first and requiring hospitalization and oxygen support.

That's according to a draft study, led by researchers at the University of Nevada and posted online. The study has not been published by a scientific journal and has not been peer-reviewed. Still, it drew quick attention from researchers, who have been examining data from the first confirmed case of a SARS-CoV-2 reinfection, reported earlier this week.
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Amid the more than 24.5 million cases worldwide, it is completely expected to find some recovered patients who are not completely protected by their immune responses and are thus vulnerable to reinfection.

The big question is: how common is this scenario?


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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:36PM (6 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday September 01 2020, @04:36PM (#1044980) Homepage Journal

    I am too. Apparently it's pretty much impossible to find though. Which very much does not make sense. You'd think if it were a legitimate worry like the medical talking heads keep saying, they'd at least have some numbers that are as fudged as the death rate to point to.

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  • (Score: 2) by slinches on Tuesday September 01 2020, @05:17PM (5 children)

    by slinches (5049) on Tuesday September 01 2020, @05:17PM (#1044991)

    Yeah, the numbers in general seem pretty suspect. I know a lot of people are talking about the death rate and comorbidities, but there are some crazy inconsistencies in the case numbers that no one else even seems to notice. For instance, here in AZ we have over 30,000 more confirmed cases than total positive tests (PCR and serology combined). How is that even possible? The case count should be less than the positive test count since a test is required to confirm a case and some people test positive more than once.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by khallow on Tuesday September 01 2020, @06:52PM (3 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 01 2020, @06:52PM (#1045020) Journal

      since a test is required to confirm a case

      Start with questioning your assumptions. The above one is false. The CDC also counts cases that are considered likely to be covid. I found that out when I was trying to resolve a discrepancy between CDC and state of Wyoming numbers.

      • (Score: 2) by slinches on Wednesday September 02 2020, @01:18AM (2 children)

        by slinches (5049) on Wednesday September 02 2020, @01:18AM (#1045202)

        The CDC and AZDHS both list confirmed and probable cases for Arizona. I was only considering the confirmed cases, which requires a positive test per the CDCs guidelines. Also, there are only a small number of probable cases listed anyway (~1%). So no, I'm not just misinterpreting the numbers.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday September 02 2020, @01:20PM (1 child)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 02 2020, @01:20PM (#1045353) Journal

          which requires a positive test per the CDCs guidelines

          Then sounds like AZDHS doesn't have similar requirements.

          • (Score: 2) by slinches on Wednesday September 02 2020, @04:00PM

            by slinches (5049) on Wednesday September 02 2020, @04:00PM (#1045433)

            Their numbers are the same. There's a small delay, so they don't match exactly at all times, but it's within a few thousand cases and same percentage of confirmed vs. probable.

            Go check out the data dashboard at azdhs.gov. Test counts and % positive are there and just hover your mouse over the case count to get the confirmed and probable numbers.

    • (Score: 2) by choose another one on Tuesday September 01 2020, @10:16PM

      by choose another one (515) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 01 2020, @10:16PM (#1045127)

      Lots of places count suspected cases as well, if diagnosed medically. Once the doctors have seen enough of this they know damn well what it looks like (in it's severe forms), for example some of the lung damage seen on CTs is pretty darned unique to covid. False negative rate is pretty high on the PCR tests due to sampling process, some people have tested negative multiple times but still have _something_ that is typical for covid and atypical for everything else.

      Beyond that there are suspect numbers all over the place, partly because cause-of-death is not a black and white thing. If you have a long-term heart condition, have a stroke while driving, crash the car, survive but die of a heart attack while the ambulance waits out side a hospital overflowing with covid patients, did you die of the heart condition, the stroke, the crash or the inadequate hospital... or covid? What if you have a heart condition, OD on drugs, then a thug kneels on your neck, then you have a cardiac arrest?

      Today in the UK the NHS announced 10 new covid deaths in hospitals. Today's final official total, including hospitals, care homes and deaths in the community - 3. Work that one out.