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posted by martyb on Wednesday September 09 2020, @11:40PM   Printer-friendly
from the $$$ dept.

BBC:

A Facebook engineer has quit the firm, saying they "can no longer stomach" being part of an organisation "profiting off hate".

Ashok Chandwaney is the latest employee to go public with concerns about how the company deals with hate speech.

The engineer added it was "choosing to be on the wrong side of history".

Facebook responded by saying it had removed millions of hate-related posts. Another of its ex-engineers has also come to its defence.

The thrust of the post by Ashok Chandwaney - who uses "they" and "them" as personal pronouns - is that Facebook moves quickly to solve certain problems, but when it comes to dealing with hate speech, it is more interested in PR than implementing real change.

Can [or should] Facebook successfully purge its platform of speech it considers harmful?


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  • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Thursday September 10 2020, @12:43AM (8 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Thursday September 10 2020, @12:43AM (#1048686) Journal

    If you had to spend years working in the tech industry with other coders your question would be rhetorical.

    Misogyny was expected. So was sexism. High percentage of people who were unable to have a normal conversation that doesn't revolve around work or computers (think guys with arrested development). Sharing porn. Pretty much like any business with a highly unbalanced ratio of men to women.

    Sad, really. But the field attracts people who prefer interacting with machines over people. Probably an underlying social anxiety of some sort.

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  • (Score: 5, Touché) by fido_dogstoyevsky on Thursday September 10 2020, @01:30AM

    by fido_dogstoyevsky (131) <reversethis-{moc.liamg} {ta} {eldnahexa}> on Thursday September 10 2020, @01:30AM (#1048716)

    ...But the field [IT] attracts people who prefer interacting with machines over people...

    Having seen some people's egocentric behaviour during the pandemic, I can now understand that particular preference.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by legont on Thursday September 10 2020, @01:40AM (4 children)

    by legont (4179) on Thursday September 10 2020, @01:40AM (#1048719)

    I grew up in a country where software development was mostly female occupation; medical doctors were mostly female too. My mother was a software developer while my father had a man's occupation of space engineer. I was a pussy to take mother's path.
    When I moved to the US I was working for a Jewish software developing company. Nothing like you described either.
    The issue here is Anglo Saxon culture. I am not very surprised either. Anglos of my age were beaten with sticks on their bare asses while children in advance grammar schools in England. They were sexually abused by seniors as well. Nothing normal can grow up from it. I have some managers like this and I always imagine them warming up toilet seats for their seniors and then beaten up by teachers for being late for classes. I pity them.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @02:38AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @02:38AM (#1048761)

      I grew up in a country where software development was mostly female occupation; medical doctors were mostly female too. My mother was a software developer while my father had a man's occupation of space engineer. I was a pussy to take mother's path.

      What sort of feminist magic and/or social and political struggles created this utopia? Did being compared to a vagina make you feel powerful?

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @07:09AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @07:09AM (#1048846)

        Old school soviet socialist. Not hard to identify, for those of us not brainwashed by American patriachial "pussy-grabbing" ideology. You know, women hold up half the sky! Still doesn't mean you're getting any, you fucking loser incel and momma's boy Bates Hotel messed up dude!

      • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Thursday September 10 2020, @02:49PM (1 child)

        by hendrikboom (1125) on Thursday September 10 2020, @02:49PM (#1048983) Homepage Journal

        Current medical school enrollment here in Canada, and probably elsewhere, is majority female.

        Back in the 60's, there were quotas on the number of women that were permitted to enroll.

        The result back then was that if your doctor was female, she was likely one of the best doctors around. Like my wife, a hematologist, who died last year.

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        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday September 11 2020, @02:24AM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday September 11 2020, @02:24AM (#1049322) Journal

          Like my wife, a hematologist, who died last year.

          I'm sorry for your loss.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @06:33PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 10 2020, @06:33PM (#1049110)

    You could chose to read something scientific instead of guessing while lamenting about STEM and maybe grow out of misandry and be a better person yourself.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday September 11 2020, @02:30AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday September 11 2020, @02:30AM (#1049324) Journal

      I think what is often the case here is that many of us do work in STEM, but are focused on our own narrow areas of interest. And, given the state of STEM today, jargon and key concepts even outside your lane a little bit can inhibit you from opining on them with any sort of confidence. In fact over the years that I've observed /. and Soylent it is often topics like traffic, or coffee, or sleep habits, or that sort of universal topic that draw the most comments, because many can relate to them no matter what their professional specialty is. But the moments I relish are those wonderful times when lightning strikes and a story hits the front page that a Soylentil is actually working on, and he or she is able to add illumination no one else can.

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