Use honest to fuck heavy cream then. It tastes worlds better and is chock full of fatty calories, though it has a small amount of sugars too. Plus if you always keep it around for coffee, you're never more than a couple minutes and a wrist cramp away from having fresh whipped cream for desserts or other recreational uses.
I love cream, although since turning vegan it has to be a soy cream. I've always tended to avoid having a lot of cream though because I still attend the school of thought that too much saturated fat could lead to heart disease. The soy cream substitute doesn't have much of that because it's mainly fortified with vegetable oil but I think we won't know for sure the health effects of a lot of that until our generation get really old. Another reason I can't have loads of it is it's just more expensive than milk as well.
-- If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
Have a diet anywhere near keto and saturated fat's not a worry. Fat that gets sucked up for energy is precluded from hanging out in your arteries by physics.
Oh and counting milk/cream as non-vegan is just silly. It's most definitely not meat of any sort. And we're mammals, producing and drinking milk is kind of a class defining trait.
I looked into soy as a replacement for bovine milk for the offspring and came to a rather alarming finding regarding the typical copper content of soy products. Copper isn't such a problem except as it displaces zinc in the body and thereby can bring similar effects to zinc deficiency, particularly if soy milk and other soy products are consumed in mass quantities.
Interesting. The multivitamins I take have a zinc supplement so maybe that can compensate for it. That's listed as a treatment for Wilson's disease [wikipedia.org] which involves an accumulation of excess copper in the body.
-- If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
"I've always tended to avoid having a lot of cream though because I still attend the school of thought that too much saturated fat could lead to heart disease."
I used to do that as well, but now most government sponsored recommendations have removed dietary cholesterol from their lists of foods to avoid. It seems that they're finally admitting that there is no reliable evidence that it's bad for you.
An excellent and up to date video on the subject of the erroneous dietary recommendations is called Fat Fiction, available for free on Amazon Prime.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:59PM
(6 children)
by Anonymous Coward
on Monday September 14 2020, @09:59PM (#1050990)
Amazing you felt you needed to point out the availability of regar cream. Could it be that you're such a reactionary that you can't handle the existence of soy products or milk substitutes? That would be very sad my friend.
Yeah, well, they make kids wear helmets to ride a bike when the odds of getting a serious head injury riding a bike are minuscule even over their entire lifetime. The modern world is full of morons.
I just can't bring myself to wear a helmet while biking - I feel as if I am increasing my likelihood of serious accidental injury by wearing one, whether by distraction of having the dumb thing on my head or possible excess confidence / false sense of security from its presence. I've logged 30K miles in 5 countries on pedal powered two wheelers, the main injury I'm concerned with is diminished blood flow and other abuse of the nerves where the bike seat contacts the body.
I brought strawberries with real whipped cream to a potluck, and the older men in the crowd had clearly been deprived for decades of such things by their wives who control their meals...
To add not just body, but yummy gimicky flavours too, because why the heck not, I now add a small dash (<1 tsp) of this stuff to my "chugging" coffees:
https://liviko.ee/en/product/vana-tallinn-marzipan-cream/ It's a cream liqueur with a rum base, and obviously flavoured with almond. Undrinkable neat, but amazing in coffee.
Oh, man, I'd not read that commercial description before, it's hilarious. I'm now convinced that I must have the biggest cock and balls in the whole of town if I can shamelessly admit to drinking that stuff!
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday September 13 2020, @09:00PM (20 children)
Use honest to fuck heavy cream then. It tastes worlds better and is chock full of fatty calories, though it has a small amount of sugars too. Plus if you always keep it around for coffee, you're never more than a couple minutes and a wrist cramp away from having fresh whipped cream for desserts or other recreational uses.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Monday September 14 2020, @03:59PM (11 children)
I love cream, although since turning vegan it has to be a soy cream. I've always tended to avoid having a lot of cream though because I still attend the school of thought that too much saturated fat could lead to heart disease. The soy cream substitute doesn't have much of that because it's mainly fortified with vegetable oil but I think we won't know for sure the health effects of a lot of that until our generation get really old. Another reason I can't have loads of it is it's just more expensive than milk as well.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 14 2020, @11:05PM (7 children)
Have a diet anywhere near keto and saturated fat's not a worry. Fat that gets sucked up for energy is precluded from hanging out in your arteries by physics.
Oh and counting milk/cream as non-vegan is just silly. It's most definitely not meat of any sort. And we're mammals, producing and drinking milk is kind of a class defining trait.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Funny) by acid andy on Tuesday September 15 2020, @12:58AM (6 children)
It's not silly, it's one of the things that distinguishes veganism from vegetarianism.
Well yeah but I can't get a cheap, consensual, local source of human milk to drink! I tried rubbing my nipples a lot but nothing came out...
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 15 2020, @03:04AM
See, I just don't get that. Give you a perfectly good excuse to play with boobs and you go making excuses instead.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @03:55AM
You usually find them in veggie gardens or straw bales, but you'll need to work on them a bit.
(Score: 5, Funny) by DECbot on Tuesday September 15 2020, @02:04PM
You know the exercise, you're allowed to pick two.
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 21 2020, @11:07PM
You're holding them wrong.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 23 2020, @05:59PM (1 child)
I looked into soy as a replacement for bovine milk for the offspring and came to a rather alarming finding regarding the typical copper content of soy products. Copper isn't such a problem except as it displaces zinc in the body and thereby can bring similar effects to zinc deficiency, particularly if soy milk and other soy products are consumed in mass quantities.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Wednesday September 23 2020, @10:54PM
Interesting. The multivitamins I take have a zinc supplement so maybe that can compensate for it. That's listed as a treatment for Wilson's disease [wikipedia.org] which involves an accumulation of excess copper in the body.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 2) by VacuumTube on Tuesday September 15 2020, @02:17PM (2 children)
"I've always tended to avoid having a lot of cream though because I still attend the school of thought that too much saturated fat could lead to heart disease."
I used to do that as well, but now most government sponsored recommendations have removed dietary cholesterol from their lists of foods to avoid. It seems that they're finally admitting that there is no reliable evidence that it's bad for you.
An excellent and up to date video on the subject of the erroneous dietary recommendations is called Fat Fiction, available for free on Amazon Prime.
(Score: 2) by acid andy on Tuesday September 15 2020, @02:23PM (1 child)
I'm well aware of the current recommendations. I remain unconvinced by them.
If a cat has kittens, does a rat have rittens, a bat bittens and a mat mittens?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @03:52PM
You science denier, you!
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 14 2020, @09:59PM (6 children)
Amazing you felt you needed to point out the availability of regar cream. Could it be that you're such a reactionary that you can't handle the existence of soy products or milk substitutes? That would be very sad my friend.
(Score: 4, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday September 14 2020, @11:05PM (5 children)
No, they just suck all of the ass compared to heavy cream.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 15 2020, @06:11PM (1 child)
Now that EF is on permanent coward status you and Runaway are probably tied for the worst users around here.
Lucky for you some other terrible people find your noob level shit funny.
(Score: 2, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday September 16 2020, @01:12AM
Please don't give me credit that I don't deserve. You're still here, after all!
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Wednesday September 23 2020, @06:02PM (2 children)
The modern world seems to live in denial that heavy cream is even an option for anything other than decadent deserts.
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday September 26 2020, @01:36AM (1 child)
Yeah, well, they make kids wear helmets to ride a bike when the odds of getting a serious head injury riding a bike are minuscule even over their entire lifetime. The modern world is full of morons.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Saturday September 26 2020, @03:21AM
I just can't bring myself to wear a helmet while biking - I feel as if I am increasing my likelihood of serious accidental injury by wearing one, whether by distraction of having the dumb thing on my head or possible excess confidence / false sense of security from its presence. I've logged 30K miles in 5 countries on pedal powered two wheelers, the main injury I'm concerned with is diminished blood flow and other abuse of the nerves where the bike seat contacts the body.
I brought strawberries with real whipped cream to a potluck, and the older men in the crowd had clearly been deprived for decades of such things by their wives who control their meals...
🌻🌻 [google.com]
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday September 18 2020, @08:34AM
https://liviko.ee/en/product/vana-tallinn-marzipan-cream/
It's a cream liqueur with a rum base, and obviously flavoured with almond. Undrinkable neat, but amazing in coffee.
Oh, man, I'd not read that commercial description before, it's hilarious. I'm now convinced that I must have the biggest cock and balls in the whole of town if I can shamelessly admit to drinking that stuff!
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves