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posted by LaminatorX on Friday September 19 2014, @05:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the voice-from-on-high dept.

Systemd has turned into the Godzilla of Linux controversies. "Everywhere you look it's stomping through blogs, rampaging through online discussion threads, and causing white-hot flames that resemble Godzilla's own breath of death," writes Jim Lynch. Now Sam Varghese reports at iTWire that although Linus Torvalds is well-known for his strong opinions, when it comes to systemd, Torvalds is neutral. "When it comes to systemd, you may expect me to have lots of colorful opinions, and I just don't," says Torvalds. "I don't personally mind systemd, and in fact my main desktop and laptop both run it."

Oh, there's been bitter fights before. Just think about the emacs vs vi wars. Or, closer to systemd, the whole "SysV init" vs "BSD init" differences certainly ended up being things that people had "heated discussions" about. Or think about the desktop comparisons.

I'm not really sure how different the systemd brawls are from those. It's technical, but admittedly the systemd developers have also been really good at alienating people on a purely personal level too. Not that that is anything particularly new under the sun _either_: the (very) bitter wars between the GPL and the BSD license camps during late-80s and early-90s were almost certainly more about the persons involved and how they pissed off people than necessarily deeply about other differences (which existed, obviously, but still).

Torvalds was asked if systemd didn't create a single point of failure which makes a system unbootable if it fails. "I think people are digging for excuses. I mean, if that is a reason to not use a piece of software, then you shouldn't use the kernel either."

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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Friday September 19 2014, @02:24PM

    by VLM (445) on Friday September 19 2014, @02:24PM (#95498)

    "and he'd literally be the cause of shutting down multiple markets, likely "

    Oh and forgot to mention that old piece of computing history mythology the "vaxen don't belong here" story was not so ancient at this time, maybe only 10 years old, and everyone knew that story. You know you're really in the shit when you're living out something like mythology in real life. Thats the time to panic, or at least a good excuse. Other than our scenario was more like Sun gear with "sunos" (ancestor of Solaris aka slow-aris) but VAXen. But whatever.

    You also know its a good time to panic when you get to work and the CEO of the corporation has stolen your chair to sit in the machine room looking very unhappy. My first reaction was OMFG I hope my networking gear is up and it isn't my fault. Which it wasn't. Somehow nobody got fired that day because it was no ones fault and IBM never really admitted what killed that machine backplane/chassis. Cosmic rays or who knows.

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