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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday September 26 2020, @08:41AM   Printer-friendly
from the state-of-the-art dept.

Co-founder of Netscape (formerly Mosaic Communications Corporation) and of, Jamie Zawinski, has some brief comments about the current situation with Mozilla and its browser.

Back to Mozilla -- in my humble but correct opinion, Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

  1. Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
  2. Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
  3. There is no 3.

And they just completely threw in the towel on standards when they grabbed their ankles and allowed W3C to add DRM. At this point, I assume Mozilla's voice on the standards committees has all the world-trembling gravitas of "EFF writes amicus brief."

By the way, one dynamic that the cited article missed is that a huge part of the reason for Google's "investment" in Mozilla was not just to drive search traffic -- it was antitrust insurance. Mozilla continuing to exist made Chrome not be the only remaining web browser, and that kept certain wolves at bay.

Google has decided that they don't need to buy antitrust insurance any more. Wonder why.

Jamie is responding to the summary of the current situation with Mozilla outlined by software engineer Cal Paterson who points out that Firefox usage is down 85% despite Mozilla's top exec pay having gone up 400%.

One of the most popular and most intuitive ways to evaluate an NGO is to judge how much of their spending is on their programme of works (or "mission") and how much is on other things, like administration and fundraising. If you give money to a charity for feeding people in the third world you hope that most of the money you give them goes on food - and not, for example, on company cars for head office staff.

Mozilla looks bad when considered in this light. Fully 30% of all expenditure goes on administration. Charity Navigator, an organisation that measures NGO effectiveness, would give them zero out of ten on the relevant metric. For context, to achieve 5/10 on that measure Mozilla admin would need to be under 25% of spending and, for 10/10, under 15%.

(2020) Mozilla Lays Off 250, Including Entire Threat Management Team
(2020) Firefox Browser Use Drops as Mozilla's Worst Microsoft Edge Fears Come True
(2020) The Web Is Now Too Complex To Allow The Creation of New Browsers
(2019) The Future of Browsers

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:50AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:50AM (#1057534)

    One thing I've long wondered is where all of that money is actually going. The Gnome Foundation crippled itself in much the same way years ago and I have to wonder if it is the same outreach programs involved with Mozilla, and just how exactly are the respective CEOs related to them.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:39PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @04:39PM (#1057664)

    I wrote the parent comment. I don't know how much GNOME Foundation spent, but Outreachy at Mozilla covered 20 interns for six months each year, when they had 1,000 employees. 75% of their staff is male and 75% is white, and less than 7% total is a combination of black, Latino, or Native American. So Mozilla's diversity initiatives and their impact on company demographics and company budget are irrelevant to their implosion. The CEO cost more in a single year than their entire diversity program over its life.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @05:22PM (#1057690)

      The numbers don't matter. Racial discrimination is "wrong" remember? Or is racism OK, as long as it's used against Whitey? Also, if everyone is equal, then what the fuck does race have to do with programming? All cultural Marxist BS.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @07:13PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 27 2020, @07:13PM (#1057745)

      It's harder to quantify the damage caused by injecting woke dangerhair activists into the organization.