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Anyone can make an omelet with eggs. The trick is to make one with none.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by MostCynical on Monday October 05 2020, @02:26AM (9 children)
I just wish they'd be in the same place across versions.. not move every time a new ui designer has a hot flash.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by Zinnia Zirconium on Monday October 05 2020, @03:03AM
Well then you want Microsoft Windows don't you? The minimize maximize close buttons were moved to the top right in Microsoft Encarta 95 and have been there ever since.
See Microsoft Encarta 95 under Windows 3.11 for Workgroups [youtu.be] in 1994 how windows inside Encarta looked like they would the next year in Windows 95.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Thexalon on Tuesday October 06 2020, @02:12PM (4 children)
UI designers constantly change things because it's impossible to build a career on "Hey, let's keep things the way they are, they work just fine!"
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by DECbot on Tuesday October 06 2020, @07:33PM
Only the lazy ones toss everything out and start over with each version. The truly dedicated designers work tirelessly to find the perfect shade of cauliflower blue on modern monitors necessary to pierce through your eyelids and present you with the most pertinent information on your latest BSOD. It it must be timed just right--long enough to ruin any motivation following the interrupted productive work session, yet short enough to prevent you from recording any useful text that might be on the screen. With all the performance improvements that hardware is capable of, maintaining a balance is difficult.
cats~$ sudo chown -R us /home/base
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 07 2020, @12:25AM
Nah, you just gotta sell it, same as anything else. I generally go with something along the lines of "Your users are going to want to torture you, murder you, and train dogs to rape your rotting corpses if you change things around and make it harder for them to do their jobs." Maybe a bit more professionally phrased but that's the general sentiment.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by redneckmother on Wednesday October 07 2020, @11:50AM (1 child)
Mmpff. Reminds me of automotive engineers (sorry, incomplete term - FUCKING engineers). Can't justify existence or continued employment without fucking something up, like making it impossible to change an oil filter without buying a special tool. Also, an easy to access air filter seems to present an opportunity for some whiz-bangy, impossible to use enclosure. Gotta change the locations and designs each year. Never know where they've hidden the fuses... usually in multiple locations, some of which require gymnastics to reach.
Get off my lawn.
Mas cerveza por favor.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Arik on Thursday October 15 2020, @12:55AM
All those changes in automative UI were at least arguably justified. Yes, they caused problems - but they measurably decreased costs as well. Decreasing costs is something managers can understand.
UI designers don't decrease costs. Redesigns, even really crappy ones, cost money.
I think in many cases they get their foot in the door by submitting extremely low bids for maintenance, then once they have the contract they try to tell the client that there's a bad case of bit rot and it will be cheaper to reimplement.
Of course their reimplemenation will be buggy as hell and feature incomplete on top of having a UI that qualifies as a crime against humanity; but by the time management notices there won't be any path back.
If laughter is the best medicine, who are the best doctors?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 07 2020, @01:38AM (2 children)
Then don't run those crutches known as "desktop environments". My Fvwm2 config has remained stable for, oh, a good twenty years or so now. The number of buttons, their position, the presence of a title bar, the ability to resize or push down/pull up from any edge, etc., has all been the same through numerous different Slackware installs.
No ui designer having a hot flash has ever caused anything to move around on my layout.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Wednesday October 07 2020, @03:39AM (1 child)
alas, most of us have to use whatever 'tools' the employer of the moment supplies, so mostly, that means Windows, Office, Adobe, etc etc etc..
at home, no such issues - debian is debian and I can choose and manage almost anything.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2) by Freeman on Tuesday October 20 2020, @04:04PM
Our IT department was implementing a No User Installs policy, before the Coronavirus hit. So, they began taking Admin rights away from all users. Which lead to a problem for me, due to the fact that one of my ancient Library systems software requires Admin access to function properly. Yes, it looks like it was coded in the 90s and has been getting the sledge hammer, round peg, square hole treatment since. It'd be a serious pain to switch though, so we're still using that. I had a talk with our IT people and they conceded. Still, that just seems like they're making more work for themselves, when what they need is less work for themselves. We're a small place, but they've got tons of computers to manage, with few IT personnel to manage them. For all I know, they've reversed the policy by now. That just sounded crazy to me. Increase their own work load, decrease user satisfaction, and break things while you're at it. Sounds like a Microsoft operation to me.
Joshua 1:9 "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee"