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posted by martyb on Saturday September 20 2014, @01:13PM   Printer-friendly
from the innovate-or-die dept.

Ian Bicking has confirmed that Mozilla has quietly shut down Mozilla Labs.

This development raises some interesting questions about the future of Mozilla and their products:

With Firefox's usage declining, with Firefox on Android seeing limited uptake, with Firefox not being available on iOS, with Thunderbird stagnating, with SeaMonkey remaining as irrelevant as ever, with Firefox OS suffering from poor reviews and little adoption, and now with a reduction in innovation due to the closure of Mozilla Labs, does Mozilla have any hope of remaining relevant as time goes on?

Will Mozilla be able to reignite the spark that originally allowed them to create products like Firefox and Thunderbird that were, at one time, wildly popular and innovative?

Is Mozilla still capable of innovating without Mozilla Labs, or will they slowly fade into irrelevance as the last remaining users of their products move on to other offerings from competitors?

 
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  • (Score: 2) by tftp on Sunday September 21 2014, @05:27PM

    by tftp (806) on Sunday September 21 2014, @05:27PM (#96372) Homepage

    Your list means that you will support expansion of rights of some pedophile to have sex with your baby. This example proves that you need to think again what is and is not allowed, and why. Hint: human rights are not the goal; survival of the humankind is.

    You can also see that your list only expands rights, but has no mechanisms for taking some rights away that were given in error. In the end everyone will have *all* the rights. A stranger in the street will have a right to stick a knife into you, and you will have a right to shoot him before he comes close enough. I believe we have a name for such a society...

    If, however, you do not advocate for anarchy, then your political system should have a mechanism by which some rights can be taken away, once they prove to be unwisely given. Humankind is not flawless, and democratic decisions are not error-free. There ought to be a method to correct those errors. So far you are of opinion that such method should not exist, and a right, once given, shall stay no matter how good or how bad it is for the society.

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  • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Monday September 22 2014, @01:26PM

    by urza9814 (3954) on Monday September 22 2014, @01:26PM (#96740) Journal

    Your list means that you will support expansion of rights of some pedophile to have sex with your baby. This example proves that you need to think again what is and is not allowed, and why. Hint: human rights are not the goal; survival of the humankind is.

    That would violate the rights of the child, and therefore fails his second rule.

    A stranger in the street will have a right to stick a knife into you, and you will have a right to shoot him before he comes close enough. I believe we have a name for such a society...

    Only if you live in some weird parallel universe which has no concept of a right to life or safety...otherwise you're again violating his second rule.

    Of course, there is one flaw in his rules, which is that you need a consistent set of rights as a starting point for further expansion. I'm not sure there's any current definition that's fully consistent, although the original founding documents of the US might work -- just not their current interpretations.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 22 2014, @11:39PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 22 2014, @11:39PM (#96964)

      That would violate the rights of the child, and therefore fails his second rule.

      I guess a baby is clearly incapable of giving consent, but what if it was an older, but still pre-pubescent child that for some reason consented to having sex with a paedophile? Would that still be a violation of the child's rights? If so, why?

      Of course there are reasons why it shouldn't be allowed, but I don't see how they fit into rules that chris.alex.thomas proposed.